Official Vent Thread: Who to cut, Who Played Well, Who is in the Dog House?

[SomeCreepinaVan]

I'd say the failures of the game were so many, it's hard to blame just one guy, even Flacco. Flacco had a very mixed game. A Joe and Hyde, sort of performance. One moment is was 120M Joe Flacco, and the next he was Hyde, a QB who couldn't make a sandwich. It wasn't all bad, and the growing pains are expected despite what some say. So, the promising performance in the second half does shine light on improvement. The OL played well, but need to stop guys from throwing up their hands and arms to get those deflections and to stop distracting Joe. That was a big problem from the OL. Wagner played well, despite the sacks he gave up at the end. He was better than Oher for sure. Monroe needs to step up his game. 

 

We really need a FS. Stewart isn't the answer and looked better as a SS than a FS. 

Man, I love reading your responces. You're spot on and tell it how it is.

[Tiz]

Ok tradition is tradition. We lost so now I'll avoid this mb as to not curse the team.

See y'all at the bye

[Guest RBates]

Man you have taken over for Hardbaugh as the ultimate Flacco hater .

Yes it was a terrible decision at the end of the half but Joe put us in a position to win in the 4th quarter with what 5 minutes or so to play .

After playing a poor first half , with many dropped balls he got us the lead only to have our defense lose it again . Chykie is not a starter in this league

I always was the ultimate Flacco Hater.  Call it what you like,  I see the it factor in players and Flacco needs to many people around him to make him look like he has it.

 

Great players make the players around them better.  Average players rely on the players around them.  Which one is Flacco?

[jimmypowder]

Flacco without Boldin just looks bad. We need another big possession receiver that can block in the running game.

Boldin made Flacco look decent. That's the difference.

I can't stand Flacco, for the simple fact that he looks like a rookie out there at times and demands so much money but needs so much help.

He did get is the lead with a great Ben Like roll to find Smith Sr , didn't he ? . Our defense holds there and we win , even with a poor overall offensive performance in the first half .

[PeRK82]

This game reminded me of 2 yrs ago maybe 3 yrs where none of the wrers could catch and hold on to the ball.

 

It is very sickening  that im watching this crap all of again. Unreal

[ravens rule]

When was the last time this D had swagger?

[BSHU_Miami]

Yeah, that's the thing. For every amount of pressure that guys like Ngata and Brandon Williams bring-up the middle, it's all nullified if Suggs and Dumervil aren't getting past the edges. I got so frustrated with those two during the second-half of last season. It also doesn't help when Pernell McPhee is like the only other pass-rusher the Ravens have.

 

Plus, is Dean Pees the ultimate problem... or, do both Suggs and Dumervil just not have "it", anymore? Can't really tell; but, this bend-don't-break style of Pees is annoying to watch. I just wished Teryl Austin became the Ravens defensive coordinator...

Agree, Agree, Agree on all counts!!!

[The Raven]

Too many screens today. Never thought I'd say that, but we ran too many and few of them were effective. I dig creativity, but it's gotta work.

[Guest RBates]

He did get is the lead with a great Ben Like roll to find Smith Sr , didn't he ? . Our defense holds there and we win , even with a poor overall offensive performance in the first half .

I must agree to this.  Still not enough.  We lost the game.  One great throw does not make up for a whole half of ineffective play from the position. 

[3-4ravdef509]

The showdown over Flacco's contract will be very interesting after 2015. No way does he deserve to continue at his current average.

You do realize that his yearly average that he's been making in the first three years is actually very reasonable, and he was never going to see the ridiculous numbers in the last three years of his contract anyway? Most people with common sense looked at that contract and knew this to be true from the beginning. With any quarterback contract the real number that matters is the amount of guarantee, which if I'm remembering correctly from memory is with about 52 million, which I think is pretty reasonable.

[beasy2487]

I don't have any problems with the coaching in this game except for the 3rd & 1 where we threw the ball and then punted. Where's Taliaferro on that down? Even without Taliaferro, why are we throwing the ball in that situation? Other than that, here's what I saw:

 

-Not having a FS or a CB2 was the difference on defense. Everyone did their job when matched up appropriately, even Chykie. Chykie just isn't good enough to play in one of the top two positions because the offense can match him up with motion. Jimmy trailed AJ when he could, but not every set/line up allows for that. Chykie almost made the play, it's Stewart who got embarrassed.

-Joe was sloppy (On a side note: I think "Sloppy Joe" might be the most apt nickname for him. Might not like the process of getting there but it's good in the end), but he's one of the only guys on offense that understands the scheme. He hinted at things like understanding blitz coverage and reading defensive backs that just weren't happening.

-It makes 0 sense that Steve Smith can get open and Torrey Smith can't.

-The dropsies must just be a Ravens curse.

-I did not expect these team to turn around overnight and, even though they didn't show up at all in the first half on offense, still put themselves in a position to win the game against one of the better teams in the league.

 

All-in-all I think we'll get better every game and end up 10-6.

[jimmypowder]

I must agree to this. Still not enough. We lost the game. One great throw does not make up for a whole half of ineffective play from the position.

Mostly at the receiver position , you mean !

[Moderator 3]

Too many mistakes by too many people. I'm putting this down as a team loss. Even the coaching staff is not exempt today. Hope they get it together by Thursday.

[ravens rule]

We need an agressive D coord. cuz this watch you man catch the ball is not gonna get the job done.

[jimmypowder]

I don't have any problems with the coaching in this game except for the 3rd & 1 where we threw the ball and then punted. Where's Taliaferro on that down? Even without Taliaferro, why are we throwing the ball in that situation? Other than that, here's what I saw:

-Not having a FS or a CB2 was the difference on defense. Everyone did their job when matched up appropriately, even Chykie. Chykie just isn't good enough to play in one of the top two positions because the offense can match him up with motion. Jimmy trailed AJ when he could, but not every set/line up allows for that. Chykie almost made the play, it's Stewart who got embarrassed.

-Joe was sloppy (On a side note: I think "Sloppy Joe" might be the most apt nickname for him. Might not like the process of getting there but it's good in the end), but he's one of the only guys on offense that understands the scheme. He hinted at things like understanding blitz coverage and reading defensive backs that just weren't happening.

-It makes 0 sense that Steve Smith can get open and Torrey Smith can't.

-The dropsies must just be a Ravens curse.

-I did not expect these team to turn around overnight and, even though they didn't show up at all in the first half on offense, still put themselves in a position to win the game against one of the better teams in the league.

All-in-all I think we'll get better every game and end up 10-6.

Torrey couldn't get open . A little puzzling .

[ratedr]

Flacco playing hero ball at the end of the 1st half cost us overtime.

 

Also, Aiken is a keeper. Get Jacoby Jones out of there. What a shame because I thought Jones improved greatly last year.

 

It's amazing how EVERY YEAR we complain about receivers and nothing is ever done, and the one reliable receiver we finally got was traded away. The legend of Boldin grows everyday.

[ravens rule]

During the Chuck Pagano days of 2011, I believe. Because during the Super Bowl year, everyone on defense was basically playing hurt or injured, at some point. And, last year, it was nothing BUT bend-don't-break (with very few turnovers and no pass-rush during the second-half of the season).

Yes i miss that guy man.

[Guest RBates]

Mostly at the receiver position , you mean !

No, the QB play.  No chance.  He played liked a rookie.  

[Moderator 3]

Torrey couldn't get open . A little puzzling .

Can't read defenses to find the seam.

[Bruce_Almty]

Game 1 in the books; move on to game 2. smh

[beasy2487]

Torrey couldn't get open . A little puzzling .

 

He's not making the right reads underneath.

[ratedr]

It's easier to list who played well than who didn't:

The ILBs, the TEs, Aiken, Forsett, Smith, Jackson, and honestly the OL for the most part.

 

That's pretty much it.

[D-Rey]

No, the QB play. No chance. He played liked a rookie.

Wow you are so oblivious lol. Flacco play well except for two horrible mistakes.

[cursona pirate]

Why?

Cause our defense let Bengals score. Period.

[3-4ravdef509]

I must agree to this. Still not enough. We lost the game. One great throw does not make up for a whole half of ineffective play from the position.

Right, because one interception and a slew of dropped passes and routes ran wrong are all his fault. So was the bad field position, so was the fumble, so was a missed field goal, so with everything I guess. Yeah, there were some play Zwar Flacco didn't do what he was supposed to do, but there are many more please reflected exactly what he was supposed to do and the rest of the offense let him down. I've already posted in an earlier response the things that Flacco didn't do well, but for the most part you'd expect a quarterback who played the way he did to have a supporting offense around and that would've generated points in the first half. I can't blame him for having zero points, he bears very little that responsibility. Some of the responsibility yes, but nowhere near all of it. I realize you didn't say he bears all of it, but you did say he had an ineffective first half. by definition the offense wasn't effective, so the quarterback wasnt effective, but I don't think that your implications that you're making about Flaccus play in the first half are correct. Flacco was ineffective but there was not a whole lot he could do about that. The things he could do, are work on his foot work that has plagued him his entire career, and also for him or someone to give him the balls to call a line adjustment from the line of scrimmage

[ratedr]

Wow you are so oblivious lol. Flacco play well except for two horrible mistakes.

When you suck for one full half and make an absolutely INEXCUSABLE mistake, that's not playing well.

[Static]

Those all white Uni's are disgusting.

[5aiah]

Well, I was ridiculed for mentioning how fragile Bernard Pierce is, a few weeks back... 

Join the club.

 

Blow it up and rebuild. This isn't a team worth a season.

This team will never blow anything up. This team isn't worth this season at this rate but it's not much we can do but ride it out and hope the team shuffles something together in the post season to threaten the Broncos. Ozzie needs to pull something major out of his behind in next years draft and the coaching staff has to start cutting back on the misses we've been having. Don't really like the direction this fanchise is going in, especially while the Steelers are doing the same thing. We could be sweeping them every season for the next 5 years.  

 

It will be interesting to see if the passing game opens up with him back.  I thought Pierce would do well in the system, but I can admit when I'm wrong.

I'm not giving up on Pierce just yet. Give him another game, as long as he's healthy.

[jimmypowder]

No, the QB play. No chance. He played liked a rookie.

Played like a rookie at the end of the half . Played like a winner to put us ahead with a Big Ben rollout Td to put us ahead with what 4-5 minutes left in the game ?

[D-Rey]

When you suck for one full half and make an absolutely INEXCUSABLE mistake, that's not playing well.

He was on point for the first half. Are you kidding me? What game were you watching? He was hitting the WRs in the hands and they were dropping them. You are apparently blind. He had that inexcusable end of the half play. But besides that he played well.