Official Vent Thread: Who to cut, Who Played Well, Who is in the Dog House?

[jimmypowder]

Flacco screwed up majorly at the end of the first half. That was the difference between a loss and at least overtime. Can anyone really disagree with that? Tired of defending this guy.

At least he played better in the second half, but you shouldn't have to "hope" that your 120M QB plays well, it should be expected.

Defending him ? Loloololol . When have you done that . You probably want Tyrod to start

[redrum52]

I don't see him putting players in the best position to maximize their potential and I don't think the players buy into his coaching. I think he's an ineffective coach here. I don't think he's necessarily bad, but I don't see our guys buying into what he's doing  for whatever reason. 

This I can agree with, but who else can we get?  I would've like to pick up Horton when he didn't get a HC job, but who out there will really be better at this point?

[ratedr]

And again, receivers were unreliable for the most part. But you couldn't pay Ozzie Newsome to finally pull the trigger on one.

 

"We like our guys."

 

Whatever.

[The Raven]

Flacco screwed up majorly at the end of the first half. That was the difference between a loss and at least overtime. Can anyone really disagree with that? Tired of defending this guy.

 

At least he played better in the second half, but you shouldn't have to "hope" that your 120M QB plays well, it should be expected.

 

There were seven drops, including four by the supposed savior Steve Smith. Why do you rant incessantly about Joe but not put any blame at all on the guys that should be catching the ball?

[ratedr]

Defending him ? Loloololol . When have you done that . You probably want Tyrod to start

I'll defend him when it's deserved. It wasn't deserved today.

[5aiah]

How can people blame the defense when they held the Bengals to five field goals and just one TD by the great AJ Green? Considering the talent on that Bengal offense, our D played as good as they could play.

Because then who would the blame rightfully fall on, the offense. 

[GrimCoconut]

I'd say the failures of the game were so many, it's hard to blame just one guy, even Flacco. Flacco had a very mixed game. A Joe and Hyde, sort of performance. One moment is was 120M Joe Flacco, and the next he was Hyde, a QB who couldn't make a sandwich. It wasn't all bad, and the growing pains are expected despite what some say. So, the promising performance in the second half does shine light on improvement. The OL played well, but need to stop guys from throwing up their hands and arms to get those deflections and to stop distracting Joe. That was a big problem from the OL. Wagner played well, despite the sacks he gave up at the end. He was better than Oher for sure. Monroe needs to step up his game. 

 

We really need a FS. Stewart isn't the answer and looked better as a SS than a FS. 

[Raving_Heathen]

Why isn't a 7th year qb making line adjustments on an obvious blitz?

 

 Huge Flacco supporter, but I agree. You had 2 guys coming free there, so no clue what happened. Need to watch it again.

[redrum52]

Isn't this Daltons first win in Baltimore?

[ratedr]

Isn't this Daltons first win in Baltimore?

Yep.

[jimmypowder]

Well, I was ridiculed for mentioning how fragile Bernard Pierce is, a few weeks back...

Pierce may end up our 3rd or 4th back when Rice comes back

[ratedr]

Why isn't a 7th year qb making line adjustments on an obvious blitz?

Good freaking question.

[GrimCoconut]

This I can agree with, but who else can we get?  I would've like to pick up Horton when he didn't get a HC job, but who out there will really be better at this point?

That's exactly who I wanted. I wanted Horton when he was available but we kept Pees, despite the fact that he wasn't that great. I wanted him when he was out there and now he's not. It's too late now, honestly, but next year he needs to go. I don't care if we have a top-5 defense or not now. He's done for the reasons I stated. 

[Static]

Blow it up and rebuild. This isn't a team worth a season.

[ratedr]

I'm finished with Pierce.

 

I thought that Rice's suspension was too short but thank God the commissioner was lenient.

[rmw10]

Now a full rundown...

 

Flacco looked like hot garbage in the first half but really turned it around.  It obviously wasn't his best game but he still gave us a chance to win.  It's not what I want for $21M, though.

 

Forsett earned the start next week, while Pierce will stand there awkwardly on the sidelines again it seems.

 

Steve Smith had a lot of drops.  Torrey still needs to run routes better.  Jacoby was terrible.  Aiken looked good in limited chances.  Marlon didn't too much but was great at blocking downfield.

 

The TEs did pretty well.  Nothing great but they played solid.

 

The OL was solid as well.  There were a few hiccups but nothing too out of the ordinary.

 

The DL did pretty well.  A few nice sized ones got through but they did push the pocket a few times.  Tyson looked really good, as did Williams.

 

ILB was alright.  Mosley played well as did Daryl.

 

OLB?  Pass rush?  Does it exist?  McPhee was the only one that was getting any sort of pressure.

 

CB wasn't as bad as I expected.  Jimmy did well.  Asa was quiet which was a good thing.  Chykie did pretty well other than the obvious big play to AJ.  He has little instincts, but didn't do as terribly as many are making it out to be considering the circumstances.

 

Elam played well.  I saw some good things from Stewart and some bad things.  I want to see more of him before I chide him.  He definitely had some positives in there.

 

Overall, it was a bad game on the offensive side of the ball.  Joe started out terribly and didn't get any help from his receivers.  The defense held up surprisingly well considering how often they were on the field.

[jimmypowder]

Good freaking question.

Like I said . But we had no timeouts either but he could have changed the play and apparently didn't

[Cville-Raven]

Blow it up and rebuild. This isn't a team worth a season.

hahaha there we go

[ratedr]

The showdown over Flacco's contract will be very interesting after 2015. No way does he deserve to continue at his current average.

[GrimCoconut]

Here are my vents:

 

Suggs and Dumervil were terrible today. We didn't sack Dalton once, and I think we only even hit him once. Pathetic.

 

Torrey, Jacoby, and Steve need to step up, get open, and catch a damn ball. Damn they were brutal.

 

Pees does need to keep Jimmy on the number one. That's a miscue.

Yeah, Suggs and Dumervil really didn't play well. One thing I kept noticing is that they would go around the tackle instead of through them between the occupied guard where they had a greater chance of getting to the QB. Smith and Whitworth really owned them both today. 

[3-4ravdef509]

Flacco was on point for most of the game and for most of the game we were down 15-0?

Bye on point, I think that what the original poster meant was that Flacco was accurate and made mostly good decisions. Now the couple of bad decisions he made were real head scratchers to be sure, and he also had receivers dropping balls left and right. The interception was a mistake, but it wasn't an egregious mistake that other quarterbacks don't make from time to time. Terrible field position many times on starting drives, and a couple of turnovers, and it's easy to see why the first half resulted in no points. Once we change running backs and players come down in the second half we started to rally and score points. To me the place that Flacco made that were the worst were obviously the end of first half, I have no idea what he was doing there and there is no good excuse for it. Also, he was a little bat with his foot work in the first half, causing some of his progressions to be rushed and or missed. Also, I'm one of the staunchest Flacco supporters you will ever meet, but why even in Flako's seventh year we don't see him making protection adjustments at the line before the snap is completely beyond me and I have no idea why Flacco doesn't or isn't given the ability to do this. I saw a lot of good from Flacco in this game in the second half especially. I actually feel good about the offense moving forward if we can keep the running game working like it did in the second half, and if Flacco continues to progress in his footwork, and if we can address the protection setting issues. The offense of line played very very well, that cannot be understated. I was actually thoroughly impressed with the way the line play especially in a new offense of system. This game was very winnable, I am not here to make excuses because at the end of the day these are professional players and they need to perform the matter what. But realistic expectations are that for a new offensive system installed after Assistan the previous one had been in place for seven years previous, some hiccups and growing pains are to sometimes be expected.

Also, has anyone noticed that Flacco is sometimes very slowly his delivery of a wide receiver or tight-end screen pass?

[redrum52]

I'm finished with Pierce.

 

I thought that Rice's suspension was too short but thank God the commissioner was lenient.

It will be interesting to see if the passing game opens up with him back.  I thought Pierce would do well in the system, but I can admit when I'm wrong.

[terpmaniac]

Saw some good things, the comeback, thought we were gonna pull it out. I agree about the defense playing well. Once again we get off to a slow, laborious start and it comes back to bit us in the butt. That first half was beyond awful. Not overly concerned. Pitt did not look unbeatable and we tend to play well after a poor game. Steve Smith, please pull your head out of your butt..those drops killed us in the first half.

[sharkh20]

I counted 10 dropped passes this game.  One of which was for about 50 yards, and another that would have probably been a touchdown.  Right after that second mentioned drop, Flacco threw a pick.  

 

On defense, there is no reason to even try to rush the qb if you are giving every receiver 10 yards to work with.  It is a pointless defensive scheme.  Hike the ball, everyone comes at you, throw it to the wide open guy at the line of scrimmage, gain 6-7 yards.  It happened over and over again this game, just like all of last year.  

 

I think Kubiac called a pretty great game.  The plays were working, people were getting open, but we dropped everything or ran the wrong routes.

 

Forsett looked great

 

Also, someone needs to tie Harbaugh's hands behind his back at the end of the game.  We are moving the ball right down the field, get a third and 2 and call a timeout which completely destroyed the rhythm and cost us the game.  We had them on their heels and Harbaugh got them up, dusted them off, and told them "go make my team lose the game now."

[H8R]

A good question is : WHERE was our pass rush ?

[ratedr]

Brown on Green is unacceptable. I want Pees gone.

[ratedr]

I counted 10 dropped passes this game.  One of which was for about 50 yards, and another that would have probably been a touchdown.  Right after that second mentioned drop, Flacco threw a pick.  

 

On defense, there is no reason to even try to rush the qb if you are giving every receiver 10 yards to work with.  It is a pointless defensive scheme.  Hike the ball, everyone comes at you, throw it to the wide open guy at the line of scrimmage, gain 6-7 yards.  It happened over and over again this game, just like all of last year.  

 

I think Kubiac called a pretty great game.  The plays were working, people were getting open, but we dropped everything or ran the wrong routes.

 

Forsett looked great

Agreed. Flacco's pass attempts wouldn't have ballooned like that if people knew how to catch.

[Guest RBates]

Flacco without Boldin just looks bad.  We need another big possession receiver that can block in the running game.  

 

Boldin made Flacco look decent.  That's the difference.

 

I can't stand Flacco, for the simple fact that he looks like a rookie out there at times and demands so much money but needs so much help. 

[Guest RBates]

Yeah, that's the thing. For every amount of pressure that guys like Ngata and Brandon Williams bring-up the middle, it's all nullified if Suggs and Dumervil aren't getting past the edges. I got so frustrated with those two during the second-half of last season. It also doesn't help when Pernell McPhee is like the only other pass-rusher the Ravens have.

 

Plus, is Dean Pees the ultimate problem... or, do both Suggs and Dumervil just not have "it", anymore? Can't really tell; but, this bend-don't-break style of Pees is annoying to watch. I just wished Teryl Austin became the Ravens defensive coordinator...

I've been saying this. 

[BSHU_Miami]

Proves that Arthur brown should have been starting, his speed was dearly missed.

I wouldn't say start...but he should have been active