Taylor or Wenning?

[RavensAllTheWay]

I'd say Tyrod and put Keith on the PS.

[Tank 92]

Yes, John Madden. We'll know by tomorrow night. Lol

 

 

whatyousay? John Madden?  lol

[Guest RBates]

Wenning?????  Lmao...... Are you kidding me?  

 

He has no experience, no arm, and nothing that sets him apart of from the average Joe. 

[Moderator 3]

Wenning?????  Lmao...... Are you kidding me?  

 

He has no experience, no arm, and nothing that sets him apart of from the average Joe.

Sounds exactly like Tyrod his first year as a backup.

[balfan23]

I don't see us keeping 3 QBs and Tyrod gets the nod as backup, based on his (relative) experience and familiarity with the team. Wenning is just way to green to be counted on as a #2 at this point. His lack of readiness to play live games with starters at this point makes him a relatively safe PS move. I would be stunned if he doesn't clear waivers. 

[ravens533]

I know that Wenning is green but he stayed in the pocket except on designed roll outs. Taylor still has happy feet and bails as soon as there is pressure. Since Wenning seemed to me to be more of what we would hope for a backup quarterback to be in this offense, I would vote for him to stay and get more practice time so that he can keep developing his rhythm with the receivers and the offense going forward. I know that most will not agree with me. It is just that whoever plays behind Joe is not going to have much real playing time. Hopefully.

[ravensdfan]

Count me as another one that thinks we can get Wenning onto the PS with no problem.  Or perhaps he injured his thumb last night and needs to go on IR.  

 

Either way if Joe goes down, we are probably going to regress.  

 

Yes, those nasty thumb injuries take a long time to heal when you're a QB

[ravensdfan]

Wenning?????  Lmao...... Are you kidding me?  

 

He has no experience, no arm, and nothing that sets him apart of from the average Joe. 

 

I'll just leave you with these numbers:

 

8/13 117 yds 90.9 rating

10/17 105 yds 71.9 rating

 

Both played with 2nd/3rd stringers. Both played against 2nd/3rd string defenses. One is a rookie and one has 4 yrs under their belt in the NFL.

 

Which one has more upside? 

[Tank 92]

I'll just leave you with these numbers:

 

8/13 117 yds 90.9 rating

10/17 105 yds 71.9 rating

 

Both played with 2nd/3rd stringers. Both played against 2nd/3rd string defenses. One is a rookie and one has 4 yrs under their belt in the NFL.

 

Which one has more upside? 

 

 

I think it was Quadry that in the second half said, "Wenning looks to be the much more polished QB..........."

[ravensdfan]

I think it was Quadry that in the second half said, "Wenning looks to be the much more polished QB..........."

 

On the one hand, I do not think they will release Tyrod and fly with just Wenning. But then, on the other hand, they did go with just Tyrod his rookie year and he didn't look that good.

[RaineV1]

I can't say I'd trust either one to win a game for the Ravens. However, I trust Wenning more to not lose a game. I think he's less likely to throw a badly timed interception and doesn't have happy feet.

[K-Dog]

Well, why don't you share? :-)

Keep Wenning. Cut Tyrod.

[RavensDE]

It isn't even close. Tyrod is a vet. He's played well in preseason and he's a known commodity. Wenning is a rookie that looked productive in one half. The coaches have been crystal clear that Tyrod is the #2 no debate. The only question is if we keep 3 or we psquad Wenning. I don't think we do the IR route. I don't see him getting picked up but we'd have a long time to solve our 2015 backup problem if he did.

[Militant X 1]

Where did you find that Mili?  Did Ty's agent write it?      

 

IDK, man........ I know you watched the game last night.  Do you think that was a strong performance? 

 

Last night was really the first we've seen of any appreciable playing time from Wenning, so I'm not sure there's much to go on as far as him being "easily outplayed". He's obviously green, but to me he looks pretty smooth and is probably a great prospect. That TD pass he threw that was overturned was something special. Don't you agree?  

 

Since it's not likely either him or Tyrod will see any action this year, I think the best case scenario for all is to deal Tyrod now if there's interest and give him a chance elsewhere. Don't know if it will happen, but I guess we'll know something by tomorrow night. 

 

Naw, not Tyrod's agent but from Eisenberg here on the site brah!

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Predicts-Ravens-53-Man-Roster/39022d3a-8d50-43c6-b432-f2163df40caa

 

I thought Tyrod played very well last night minus a huge overthrow in the endzone but hasn't Joe Flacco done that?  Then, the deep pass for an INT but hasn't Joe Flacco done that?  And then he threw a few behind the receiver but hasn't Joe Flacco done that as well?  Of course he's not Joe but my point is that Tyrod played well with the time he was given and made similar mistakes that our 7 year starter still makes!  Now, Wenning?  Very decent to me at best!  Nothing spectacular!  Potential?  Perhaps!  Tyrod also has potential in this league....in the right place!  But, I agree, my boy Tyrod needs to get out of Baltimore as quickly as he can in hopes of possibly getting playing time elsewhere.

 

#Mili

[Tank 92]

Naw, not Tyrod's agent but from Eisenberg here on the site brah!

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Predicts-Ravens-53-Man-Roster/39022d3a-8d50-43c6-b432-f2163df40caa

 

I thought Tyrod played very well last night minus a huge overthrow in the endzone but hasn't Joe Flacco done that?  Then, the deep pass for an INT but hasn't Joe Flacco done that?  And then he threw a few behind the receiver but hasn't Joe Flacco done that as well?  Of course he's not Joe but my point is that Tyrod played well with the time he was given and made similar mistakes that our 7 year starter still makes!  Now, Wenning?  Very decent to me at best!  Nothing spectacular!  Potential?  Perhaps!  Tyrod also has potential in this league....in the right place!  But, I agree, my boy Tyrod needs to get out of Baltimore as quickly as he can in hopes of possibly getting playing time elsewhere.

 

#Mili

 

 

yeah Mili, I saw it after I wrote my post. My bad.

[HoldingCall]

If one or two starting OL men go down and we can't keep the opposing team out of the backfield, Taylor is the better backup. Either way, the team still lose if we can't keep a team out of the backfield so it doesn't really matter.

[757RavensFan]

You can close this topic since Wenning was cut.

[GrimCoconut]

Pretty much what was expected. We'll see him on the PS. I just would be surprised if a team signed him. He wasn't that good and got embarrassed in game 2 or whatever it was.

[Tank 92]

Pretty much what was expected. We'll see him on the PS. I just would be surprised if a team signed him. He wasn't that good and got embarrassed in game 2 or whatever it was.

 

 

He looked better than Tyrod in the last, but as a late round rookie with no experience I can see why they went this direction. Hopefully he clears waivers as we'll need a #2 next year.

 

Too bad for Tyrod.  I guess there wasn't any interest from other teams. 

[The Raven]

PS it is. I think we'll hold on to him.

[52N19]

wenning MAY have upside. taylor doesn't have upside. my biggest concern is that the ravens will pick up taylors second contract by taking the path of least resistance. i don't believe anyone will pick up taylor after his contract is up. if we pick up tailors second contract then we are not grooming anyone for flaccos replacement down the road. 

[H8R]

Naw, not Tyrod's agent but from Eisenberg here on the site brah!

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Predicts-Ravens-53-Man-Roster/39022d3a-8d50-43c6-b432-f2163df40caa

I thought Tyrod played very well last night minus a huge overthrow in the endzone but hasn't Joe Flacco done that? Then, the deep pass for an INT but hasn't Joe Flacco done that? And then he threw a few behind the receiver but hasn't Joe Flacco done that as well? Of course he's not Joe but my point is that Tyrod played well with the time he was given and made similar mistakes that our 7 year starter still makes! Now, Wenning? Very decent to me at best! Nothing spectacular! Potential? Perhaps! Tyrod also has potential in this league....in the right place! But, I agree, my boy Tyrod needs to get out of Baltimore as quickly as he can in hopes of possibly getting playing time elsewhere.

#Mili

An honest question for you... Do you actually believe Tyrod has the ability to be a starting QB in the NFL? You say "he's not joe" but then try to justify Tyrods mistakes by saying "hasn't joe done this"... I understand you like the kid for your own reasons, but I really have a hard time believing he'll be anything more than a backup. He just doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB... And really I don't think he's a good back-up, as there's plenty of former starters in the league that are far more talented as back-ups then he... So, tell me where does he go for more playing time, because I don't see it.

[BmoreBird22]

An honest question for you... Do you actually believe Tyrod has the ability to be a starting QB in the NFL? You say "he's not joe" but then try to justify Tyrods mistakes by saying "hasn't joe done this"... I understand you like the kid for your own reasons, but I really have a hard time believing he'll be anything more than a backup. He just doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB... And really I don't think he's a good back-up, as there's plenty of former starters in the league that are far more talented as back-ups then he... So, tell me where does he go for more playing time, because I don't see it.

He has all the physical tools you need to be a starting quarterback, but he just hasn't progressed with his mechanics and still shows questionable decision making

[The Raven]

Tyrod has the physical ability but he has shown zero progression in the mental part of the game. In his fourth year, he still runs after making one read. The coaches have yelled at him to sit in the pocket and make throws. No confidence in him.

[Tank 92]

Does a PS contract count towards the four years for a rookie contract?

[Moderator 3]

Does a PS contract count towards the four years for a rookie contract?

No. Since Wenning was released, he is now a free agent and gets to negotiate a new contract if signed to a roster.

[Tank 92]

No. Since Wenning was released, he is now a free agent and gets to negotiate a new contract if signed to a roster.

 

 

Understood.  But if he clears waivers and goes to our PS, would this year count?

[GrimCoconut]

Understood. But if he clears waivers and goes to our PS, would this year count?

If I'm not mistaken, the only time his year won't count is if he's injured. I believe that's the case for Lewis-Moore.

[Ravensuperfan1]

Tyrod obviously. Not sure why this is even a question 

[Militant X 1]

An honest question for you... Do you actually believe Tyrod has the ability to be a starting QB in the NFL? You say "he's not joe" but then try to justify Tyrods mistakes by saying "hasn't joe done this"... I understand you like the kid for your own reasons, but I really have a hard time believing he'll be anything more than a backup. He just doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB... And really I don't think he's a good back-up, as there's plenty of former starters in the league that are far more talented as back-ups then he... So, tell me where does he go for more playing time, because I don't see it.

 

You don't see it?  Lol!  That's cause it is an opinion man!  I see it!  And that is an opinion!  I'm pretty sure that there are some cats in the league that you thought wouldn't make it....and did!  And, some you thought would make it.....and didn't!  It's the nature of the business!  Now, my saying; "Hasn't Joe done this or that" wasn't to justify Tyrod's mistake but proved the point (just by your response to it) that you Tyrod-haters yourselves, will justify Joe's mistakes and then penalize, scrutinize and harshly criticize the backup for doing the same thing.  To answer your question; IF...Tyrod was the main focal point of an offense as the "starting" QB like Joe Flacco is (i.e. taking all of the reps and practicing solely with the starters, starting the preseason and regular season games with the ones and not garbage time gameplay etc.); then YES!!  He would be more than capable of starting in the NFL for another team.  Personally, I'd love to see it!

 

#Mili