All-Time NBA Draft: Discussion

[-Truth-]

Sorry y'all it's been a busy week

If you're down to go the distance, you are on the clock.

[gabefergy]

I'm going to stick it out for 15

[Ed_Reed20]

Same

[beanfigger]

Quickly approaching another skip.

[SecretAgentMan]

The faster this game finishes up the faster I leave.. AND GO

[Inqui]

The faster this game finishes up the faster I leave.. AND GO

While it would be a shame to see you go, this is the voluntary part of the draft so there's nothing keeping you here (aside from your undying love of this place ).

[SecretAgentMan]

While it would be a shame to see you go, this is the voluntary part of the draft so there's nothing keeping you here (aside from your undying love of this place ).

It's quickly becoming hate... A certain thread in RT just goes 100% against my morals

[Inqui]

It's quickly becoming hate... A certain thread in RT just goes 100% against my morals

If it's the one I'm thinking of, that guy's made about 50 threads that make you question everything you know about life (and not in the good way...).

Edited September 17, 2014 by Inqui

[SecretAgentMan]

If it's the one I'm thinking of, that guy's made about 50 threads that make you question everything you know about life (and not in the good way...).

Congrats. You're correct!

[MoveThoseChains]

Sooo who's on the clock?

[-Truth-]

Sooo who's on the clock?

CalvinSmoke, I presume.

[Inqui]

CalvinSmoke, I presume.

Yep, for another hour and then it's baltimoreflacco.

[allblackraven]

 

Smoke's been skipped, your clock is ticking again.

[beanfigger]

We've come to a screeching halt with this thing over the past few rounds. I think 12 is enough for me, so that's one less person to worry about waiting for the last three.

[allblackraven]

We've come to a screeching halt with this thing over the past few rounds. I think 12 is enough for me, so that's one less person to worry about waiting for the last three.

You still going to do team ratings?

[beanfigger]

You still going to do team ratings?

Quote me when you want one, and I'll check back in.

[MoveThoseChains]

We've come to a screeching halt with this thing over the past few rounds. I think 12 is enough for me, so that's one less person to worry about waiting for the last three.

 

12 is enough for me as well. This was fun, fellas. Could I get a team grade, Bean? No rush, do it whenever you have time. Thanks.

[allblackraven]

Quote me when you want one, and I'll check back in.

I reckon you can do that on 12 men roster for me - don't expect last 3 picks to make much of a difference, so whenever you feel like it. Cheers.

[Inqui]

I reckon you can do that on 12 men roster for me - don't expect last 3 picks to make much of a difference, so whenever you feel like it. Cheers.

I can work on the same premise, but I can live with waiting for the last three if needs be.

[beanfigger]

I'll get you three by tomorrow.

[Inqui]

CalvinSmoke, I presume.

And now it's you. We're rolling again.

[-Truth-]

And now it's you. We're rolling again.

Yay. The pick will be in very shortly. This will be a homer/reach selection with this player being one of the two favorites that forced me into watching the sport, but I will live with it. Just looking for the proper picture.

Edited September 18, 2014 by -Truth-

[-Truth-]

Had to take Gilbert Arenas. One of my all-time favorites at the time, Agent Zero was one of the better clutch players of his time. I had no business going for another scoring Guard, but I couldn't let him pass.

[beanfigger]

Move the Chains K Coast squad breakdown:

 

Starters: Bob Cousy (best value), Dwyane Wade (biggest reach), Scottie Pippen, Kevin McHale, Hakeem Olajuwon

 

Bench: Guards - Walt Frazier, Hal Greer, Manu Ginobili

            Forwards - Chris Mullin, Jerry Lucas, Kevin Love

            Center - Marcus Camby

 

Let me first say that picking Wade as a reach is by default. He's a good player, but all the other picks were on point. I had to pick one. Waiting on a PG for so long and still landing Cousy is nuts, and the rest of us should be ashamed to let it happen. You certainly focused on defense more than the rest of us, but it was not so much a detriment to the other end because your guys can still do damage offensively. Your late round picks were all luxury selections after giving yourself such a stacked lineup, so no problems there, either. You mixed some of your personal favorites with some of the all-time greats from history, and you did a solid job grabbing players from all eras.

 

Biggest strength: All around talent at each position. You can beat teams in so many ways with so many different players. Your 1-2-3 can run with anyone; your 4-5 can bang down low; you have both shooters and defenders on your bench for whatever the situation calls for. It would be really hard to game plan for a team like this.

 

Biggest weakness: I'm nitpicking here, but I'd say post-play depth. Your starting 4 and 5 can certainly hold their own down low, but if either was off or found themselves in foul trouble, you'd be in trouble in that area. This is especially true if The Dream had to sit for a spell, as you don't have much in terms of offense to sub in. However, planning to play him nearly all game is certainly not a poor idea. He's the man.

 

Starters A-   Bench A-   Overall A-

[beanfigger]

allblackraven's Morningside for Life squad breakdown:

 

Starters: Oscar Robertson, Ray Allen, Clyde Drexler (best value), Elvin Hayes, Moses Malone

 

Bench: Guards - Kevin Johnson, Steve Francis (biggest reach)

            Forwards - Chris Webber, Cliff Robinson, Peja Stojakovic

            Centers - Artis Gilmore, Vlade Divac

 

This team started with a huge bang, and the values continued throughout the early half of the draft. This is the best starting five of my ten opposing teams. I can't imagine getting better options for your starting five at your position in the draft. One interesting thing is that I think somehow if you listed your picks in order of round side by side with your picks listed in order of best to worst player, those lists would match exactly. That is how it is supposed to go, but I don't think that is the case for any other team. You started to go with more of your favorites later on, and you completely forgot about the players from earlier eras (odd considering you did nearly the opposite to start things off). You must have really liked that Kings team from the early 2000s that just couldn't get the better of Kobe and Shaq in the postseason.

 

Biggest strength: The starting five. Quite simply, I think it dominates the other teams 1-5. If no one ever got tired, injured or fell into foul trouble, I'd say you win almost every night with these guys.

 

Biggest weakness: Depth. The problem with narrowing your focus to players you enjoyed watching in recent memory is that you quickly run out of talent from a truncated era. The players are good, just not all time greats. This is especially true for your 2 and 4 positions, where you have little to no rotation at all.

 

Starters A   Bench C-   Overall B+ (the amazing starting five brings the average up)

[beanfigger]

Inqui's Conchord Down squad breakdown:

 

Starters: Steve Nash, Pete Maravich (best value), Larry Bird, Karl Malone, David Robinson

 

Bench: Guards - Maurice Cheeks, Alvin Robertson

            Forwards - Paul Arizin, Dolph Schayes, Dave Debusschere, Chris Bosh (biggest reach)

            Center - Bill Walton

 

This squad best resembles a team that I might have drafted myself if I were in the same draft position, so naturally, I like it a lot. It's hard to find a flaw. I only chose Bosh as your reach because everyone else is such a stud, and you were already stacked at that particular position. I am still sore that you stole Debusschere from me, and that could have easily been labeled your best value pick. I want to poke holes, but I can't.

 

Biggest strength: Look at that list of forwards. Ridiculous. You have everything you could ever want from that position, and you have a ton of versatility there, as well.

 

Biggest weakness: It's hard to find one. Maybe guard depth? I don't know. Not a ton of scoring there outside of Maravich, but they can all certainly stuff the stat sheet in other areas.

 

Starters A   Bench A   Overall A

[Birdest]

Do me bean. 

[SecretAgentMan]

Do me bean.

You're in the clock

[Birdest]

Picked Lebron of the 70s

[-Truth-]

Biggest weakness: I'm nitpicking here, but I'd say post-play depth. Your starting 4 and 5 can certainly hold their own down low, but if either was off or found themselves in foul trouble, you'd be in trouble in that area. This is especially true if The Dream hadto sit for a spell, as you don't have much in terms of offense to sub in. However, planning to play him nearly all game is certainly not a poor idea. He's the man.

I would personally go with outside shooting as the weakness, at least among the starters.