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Offense still starts slow. Not even sure those were Dallas 1s we scored against.

 

Defense just looks like trash period, though I have to consider that we had scrubs at CB.

 

Not particularly satisfied tonight.

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All I have to say is what I've been saying and that's don't believe the OTA's Mini or Training Camp hype up of our offense or defense!  The first 3 "regular" season games will say it all!

 

#Mili

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Offense started off very poorly, but improved as the game went on.

 

The defense was largely bad for most of the game.  Runs to the edge were burning us and of course the secondary is still an issue.

 

The 3rd team on both sides in general just looks bad.

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i'm worried about the secondary particularly the CBs, all other positions are deep (WR, RBs, OL, DL, LB, S, )

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I think RB Woods isn't showing much to keep him on the bubble. And all corners not named Webb, Smith or Jackson showed tonight that they are pretty expendable. The second string OL was getting pushed around a lot today as well.

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Gotta wonder why the defense is so poor...not too much turnover there. Did we underestimate the losses of Jones and Graham? The offense is absolutely ahead of the defense right now.

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Outside runs seem to be an issue but I'm sure play calling and Webb change that.

Woulda like to see brown and Aiken with joe but ok sure that's next game

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Pees is just not a good DC imo. And I'm not just talking this preseason. We've looked soft ever since he took over.

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The runs to the edge were killing us, and we need to tighten up on tackling.  Please no more injuries!!!

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Pees is just not a good DC imo. And I'm not just talking this preseason. We've looked soft ever since he took over.

i don't agree with you often, but I'm behind this 100%
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I never put much stock into the preseason and even less into the 2nd preseason game. The reason being is because most time teams seem to have that let down in week 2 because camp just ended. It's almost like an exhale. Now of course that's not an excuse but that's just one of the biggest reasons I don't put much into the 2nd preseason game.

 

However with that said, the discipline of the defense has to improve. There are seemingly too man vets freelancing on defense right now. Has to improve. I loved the fact that Jimmy followed Dez around the field before getting injured. I hope that trend continues with him shadowing the #1 WR for teams. Hope he's OK.

 

Didn't have much concern with the offense. It's tough to sit on the sidelines for that long and expect to be sharp. A lot of the early mishaps was just poor timing. The guys took a moment to crank it up. But I didn't see any bad traits out there, just guys who needed to get things going. I'll probably have more once I break down the tape.

 

Both Camp and DT did a great job with returns, I liked our coverage team for the most part. Juice seems like the real deal and he'll actually limit a lot of targets to both Pitta and O.D imo. He's such a mismatch for LBs and it's just too easy for Joe to throw to him.

 

Haven't had the chance to really breakdown the game, but it was much as what I expected for a 2nd preseason game.

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I never put much stock into the preseason and even less into the 2nd preseason game. The reason being is because most time teams seem to have that let down in week 2 because camp just ended. It's almost like an exhale. Now of course that's not an excuse but that's just one of the biggest reasons I don't put much into the 2nd preseason game.

However with that said, the discipline of the defense has to improve. There are seemingly too man vets freelancing on defense right now. Has to improve. I loved the fact that Jimmy followed Dez around the field before getting injured. I hope that trend continues with him shadowing the #1 WR for teams. Hope he's OK.

Didn't have much concern with the offense. It's tough to sit on the sidelines for that long and expect to be sharp. A lot of the early mishaps was just poor timing. The guys took a moment to crank it up. But I didn't see any bad traits out there, just guys who needed to get things going. I'll probably have more once I break down the tape.

Both Camp and DT did a great job with returns, I liked our coverage team for the most part. Juice seems like the real deal and he'll actually limit a lot of targets to both Pitta and O.D imo. He's such a mismatch for LBs and it's just too easy for Joe to throw to him.

Haven't had the chance to really breakdown the game, but it was much as what I expected for a 2nd preseason game.

I agree with you. But I also think the offense are still getting their timing down with the new system. I think they will before the first game.
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Honestly not particularly worried about the offense right now. But the defense scares me.

Same boat. It just took the offense a bit to get into a rhythm, which is understandable with how late they got into the game.

The defense as a whole is concerning. The secondary wasn't surprising, but the lack of run discipline was. I saw it last game but thought it was just jitters getting back on the field. It's fine up the gut but runs to the outside are killing us. Luckily, our issues there are highly correctable.

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I just didn't see the energy tonight. It might just be preseason but we can't start to act like we can just turn it on when the games count (especially the defensive starters), too many guys going through the motions for my liking.. These guys need to get it going, go hit someone in the mouth and play Ravens football. 

 

The word that keeps coming to mind is energy, we absolutely have to bring more energy into the "dress rehearsal" game. The lazy pre-season demeanor (especially out of the defense) needs to go, play like a Raven. That doesn't mean just when the games count, that means all the time. Forgive me for getting a little over critical of a pretty decent preseason game but that's what kind of football team we need to be to get back to playing championship caliber football. The standards have to be high.

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Same boat. It just took the offense a bit to get into a rhythm, which is understandable with how late they got into the game.

The defense as a whole is concerning. The secondary wasn't surprising, but the lack of run discipline was. I saw it last game but thought it was just jitters getting back on the field. It's fine up the gut but runs to the outside are killing us. Luckily, our issues there are highly correctable.

The offense is also learning a new system, I expect them to continue to get better. It's honestly kind of unacceptable how far ahead of the defense they look right now considering the defense suffered very little turnover. 

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I'd love to see what our actual starting secondary looks like, but that may not happen anytime soon (same a last preseason, unfortunately). I don't expect us to have the next legion of boom, but they have to be better than this. As for the outside runs, I feel like I didn't see too much of Upshaw in the game after his TD. Maybe I was missing him, but he is huge for us, obviously, when it comes to setting the edge. I think the run defense will improve. I have no idea about the pass defense. Where's the rush?

Thank god they kept Flacco and the boys in for that long TD drive and two-minute scoring drive because I would have been sick to my stomach of they came out before that. Joe looked bad before that drive, and so did everyone else. I'm still waiting for this incredible steal of Eugene Monroe that people were so excited about last year to pay off. He seems average, maybe slightly above. I hope he turns it on somehow and kills it in the regular season (hopefully before that).

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In the midst of all the negative, can we talk about how good McPhee was? The guy looks so much healthier and faster. He was my standout of the night. Great performance from him.

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McPhee was a monster tonight, every time I saw him, he was causing havoc in the backfield. He is earning snaps in the regular season if he keeps that up

 

Also I was happy with Kubiak tonight, he did nice for us, especially with Wenning towards the end

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Pees is just not a good DC imo. And I'm not just talking this preseason. We've looked soft ever since he took over.

Ray Horton. Would love to have him here as a DC. We've been soft. I hate this read and react defense. We strive when we dictate what other teams do. I didn't expect the best pass defense but the rush was terrible and the front seven just didn't seem to care. Offense was bad as well and like you said, I don't even think they scored on Dallas' 1s.

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In the midst of all the negative, can we talk about how good McPhee was? The guy looks so much healthier and faster. He was my standout of the night. Great performance from him.

He was fun to watch. Looking like he's trying to continue where he left off his rookie season.

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Pees is just not a good DC imo. And I'm not just talking this preseason. We've looked soft ever since he took over.

 

Agreed, man do I miss having a guy like Rex here who wanted the D to straight up hit people in the mouth and have offenses fear coming to Baltimore. We have a lot of great talent on that side of the ball, it just comes down to the mentality. In my humble opinion Pees isn't molding a defense that hits with reckless abandon or plays an extremely physical brand of defense that we've always had in Baltimore.

 

I'm not buying into his "conservative approach", our defense doesn't exactly strike fear into offenses like it used to as talented as it is and that goes beyond just Ray and Ed not being here anymore. What I'm talking about has very little to do with tonight's preseason game, I'm talking about Pees whole career as our DC. He hasn't quite gone to Cam Cameron levels of inefficiency as a coordinator but I think a lot of Ravens fans feel that Pees' unit isn't playing up to their potential or even anywhere close. We know Pees' job is pretty safe at the moment so it's going to fall on the players to set the tone for themselves even if the DC doesn't.

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In the midst of all the negative, can we talk about how good McPhee was? The guy looks so much healthier and faster. He was my standout of the night. Great performance from him.

Game was blacked out on nfl preseason live app for me so I cannot wait to watch this game mainly for this reason. I've always been a big fan of McPhee
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most defenses dont gameplan much and show their hand in pre season.

you dont really wanna show to much on tape heading towards game 1.

pre season is all about getting into a rythem and see how much depth you have and working on chemistry

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Has there been a Will Hill sighting yet in preseason? I honestly haven't seen him on the field once yet, for how much praise he got when he arrived from Pees I'm surprised he's seen so little, if any preseason action. Might have something to do with him not knowing all the calls yet but still... give him some snaps in garbage time right? He's still a heck of a ball player.

 

Maybe I'm too busy watching other guys late in the game and not realizing he's out there but NFL.com doesn't have him registering a single stat in either preseason game. Anyone that can confirm his snap count this preseason? Can't seem to find a website that has the player snap count for the 2014 preseason.

 

Kind of odd if he really hasn't gotten a single snap yet, you would think he would get a lot of 2nd half reps to see where he's at before the suspension kicks in.

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Jimmy Smith also said that he didn't remember anything after the first series of the game.

 

 

?????

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