Tyrod Taylor

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Tyrod was throwing to Marlon, Mellette and Furstenburg, at first, who all looked better than who Joe was throwing to: David Reed, Doss, Dickson, Shiancoe, Thompson (who promptly got hurt), rusty Stokely and Clark, and a very shaky Jacoby who was struggling to adjust to not only being a starter but also running routes over the middle.

[ravensdfan]

he outplayed Flacco in preseason?  Prove me wrong.  Ill wait.....

 

Um...against defensive scrubs. You do know that correct? 

 

Flacco in with ones, playing ones.

Tyrod in with twos/threes, playing twos/threes.

 

Which is why your argument about playing with the first team doesn't hold water. They aren't playing first team defenses either.

[Guest RBates]

Um...against defensive scrubs. You do know that correct? 

 

Flacco in with ones, playing ones.

Tyrod in with twos/threes, playing twos/threes.

 

Which is why your argument about playing with the first team doesn't hold water. They aren't playing first team defenses either.

Now i got one.  You do know that Flacco played terrible against the two's also.  When harbs left him in there for three quarters to find his rhythm.  

 

Do you guys have a DVR?  Are you watching old film?  How can you talk about the Ravens and cant remember the games?

[ravensdfan]

Now i got one.  You do know that Flacco played terrible against the two's also.  When harbs left him in there for three quarters to find his rhythm.  

 

Do you guys have a DVR?  Are you watching old film?  How can you talk about the Ravens and cant remember the games?

 

lol you mean with old, slow Clark and over the hill Stokley? Yet you will sit there and say it is Tyrod's targets that are the issue? Give it up. 

 

For the record, I did not say he was pure garbage either. I said he is a great athlete - which he clearly is - but a sub par QB - which he clearly is.

 

But - let's take this theory of yours - so, are you saying in college he played behind a scrub O line? Had scrub targets? Because his accuracy isn't any better there. He can run - and do it well - that's great. That isn't however, what you need your QBs strength to be. 

 

Just for the record too : Tyrod's completion percentage was 58 for preseason. Flacco's was 76.

[flynismo]

He did and that was the only point to be made. Nothing more.  These cats are talking about the man like he is straight garbage. Just trying to set the record straight. 

 

What he's saying is, if you're trying to set the record straight on Tyrod, using preseason games is hardly the way to go about it.

[flynismo]

Look, we see all we need to see with many players during team drills and other events during practice. Obviously, during those times, the coaches saw something in Tyrod that deems him worthy of keeping around for three years as a backup. Unfortunately, what they saw in practice did not parlay out onto the field in real games.

It's an indication to me that Tyrod may not have the intangibles needed to be a successful, or even roster-worthy player. Many, many other backups who are even lesser known than Tyrod have stepped in for their teams and played reasonably well in recent years.

[RavensDE]

Tyrod is a super-cheap serviceable player.

 

Tyrod only needs to be able to run the offense and not screw things up.  If he can get some extra yards with his feet without taking a hit that'd be just great.  The west coast offense is new to him but it suits his skill set and he is essentially practicing/playing for a job somewhere else next year for veteran money.  I think he could be productive if he was forced into action, but if he had to win games for us by putting up points it'd be disastrous.  Ozzie and Harbaugh didn't rush out looking for a better back-up so I'll take their word for it, he a solid #2.  There is a lot of media attention about Kubiak bringing in another guy who knows his system but camp has opened and Tyrod's been learning throughout the OTA's and mini-camp.  He's our guy and we're stuck with him.  A poor man's Vick at a rock bottom price.

[JoeyFlex5]

you guys are crazy, start tyrod PLEASE, hes too fast mayne.

[Tank 92]

I can only imagine the banter if we actually had a real QB controversy.

[redrum52]

Why can't RBates cheer for one of our own guys? What's wrong with you all? Since when as a fan is it wrong to have faith in our own players? Geez.....

[Gordo52]

And I thought I've seen it all. lol

[Ravenslifer]

Joe's injury last season shows otherwise. If they were so confident in Tyrod they would NEVER have let Joe play with that hurt knee.

 

I mean they prefer him over a journeyman veteran quarterback to back up Joe - he's much cheaper and he in theory should have some rapport with the receivers.  And as far as injuries, I feel Joe is the kind of player who just won't stop unless he fails to get medical clearance to play.  I don't think it was lack of a backup plan that had Joe playing with the knee, I think that's just Joe refusing to sit.  But my overall point is why I'm fine with Tyrod is simple - if Joe is hurt badly enough that we need a backup plan, I think the season is sunk anyway, and therefore I don't believe in investing too much in backup quarterbacks.

[redrum52]

Legend has it that the "I Want Tyrod Taylor" Thread ignited Joe Flacco for his SB run.

[Blackbirds Rule]

i don't know why the ravens keep this guy. he has not progressed in the 3 years he has been with the ravens. he still wants to run first and throw second which with his accuracy isn't a bad idea. if Joe goes down the season is over because tyrod could never be an effective starter. he is worse then troy smith.

the ravens should have given the guy from ball state more reps thursday night. they need to try to identify a qualified back up QB because Tyros ain't it.

Funny you say that because analysts were saying he's one of the quality backups in the league. He's not the most accurate thrower but with any team if their starter goes down production will go down. However he can move the chains with is feet and can occassionally hit the open guy. He does take long with his reads but he's serviceable. Would we like/want a more accurate back up with a strong arm? I think the answer is yes and maybe just maybe Wenning can become that. i think Taylor is fine as a backup this year unless we're able to get or trade him for a QB that fits this system better.

[redrum52]

Lmao.. Funny that that little comment is getting negged.  What did I do wrong?

[berad]

Lmao.. Funny that that little comment is getting negged.  What did I do wrong?

 

Trolling and people didn't appreciate it?

[redrum52]

Trolling and people didn't appreciate it?

How so?

[berad]

How so?

 

Just an observation.

[Bltravens]

How is this thread even allowed anymore...it always turns into this.

 

 

As if the Troy Smith thing wasn't bad enough, Heisman winner who never got a chance in Baltimore.  Guy is getting benched in the CFL, a league where if you can't throw, you don't win.  Doesn't matter the "different" dimension you add in with your scramble ability. We're going to go back to the Tyrod Taylor, 6th round pick who the coaching staff is forcing to sit in the pocket in practice because they're tired of him scrambling so he can actually throw at some point, could be a starter in this league routine?

[Blackbirds Rule]

How is this thread even allowed anymore...it always turns into this.

 

 

As if the Troy Smith thing wasn't bad enough, Heisman winner who never got a chance in Baltimore.  Guy is getting benched in the CFL, a league where if you can't throw, you don't win.  Doesn't matter the "different" dimension you add in with your scramble ability. We're going to go back to the Tyrod Taylor, 6th round pick who the coaching staff is forcing to sit in the pocket in practice because they're tired of him scrambling so he can actually throw at some point, could be a starter in this league routine?

You know everybody loves the backup QB. The only backup QB that we ever had that i thought would've been better than our starter was Randall Cunningham over Grbac. Cunningham beat the Steelers during the regular season and i thought he would've given us a better shot to beat the Steelers in the playoffs to keep our repeat dream alive.

[redrum52]

How is this thread even allowed anymore...it always turns into this.

As if the Troy Smith thing wasn't bad enough, Heisman winner who never got a chance in Baltimore. Guy is getting benched in the CFL, a league where if you can't throw, you don't win. Doesn't matter the "different" dimension you add in with your scramble ability. We're going to go back to the Tyrod Taylor, 6th round pick who the coaching staff is forcing to sit in the pocket in practice because they're tired of him scrambling so he can actually throw at some point, could be a starter in this league routine?

The actual premise of the thread is basically that Tyrod stinks. Starter wise, he'd be bottom tier of the league, but still better than some. As far as a backup role, I think he's pretty high up considering what's out there.

[gabefergy]

The actual premise of the thread is basically that Tyrod stinks. Starter wise, he'd be bottom tier of the league, but still better than some. As far as a backup role, I think he's pretty high up considering what's out there.

Back-ups I would rather have:

Whoever doesn't win the QB battles in Min, Cle, Jax, NYJ, TB

Mark Sanchez (yeah that's right)

Matt Moore

Tavaris Jackson

Brandon Weeden

Chase Daniel

Kellen Clemons

Ryan Mallett

Matt McGloin

Case Keenum

Matt Hasselbeck

Derek Carr

TJ Yates

By my count that's at least 17 back-ups in the NFL that have shown more ability than Tyrod. Some of these QBs are 3rd string. Some are early draft picks so they are slightly different, but many of those names were available and could have been signed.

[redrum52]

Back-ups I would rather have:

Whoever doesn't win the QB battles in Min, Cle, Jax, NYJ, TB

Mark Sanchez (yeah that's right)

Matt Moore

Tavaris Jackson

Brandon Weeden

Chase Daniel

Kellen Clemons

Ryan Mallett

Matt McGloin

Case Keenum

Matt Hasselbeck

Derek Carr

TJ Yates

By my count that's at least 17 back-ups in the NFL that have shown more ability than Tyrod. Some of these QBs are 3rd string. Some are early draft picks so they are slightly different, but many of those names were available and could have been signed.

We have much different opinions then but that's what makes these discussions interesting.

[gabefergy]

We have much different opinions then but that's what makes these discussions interesting.

Those guys have all won games in the NFL or at least shown better ability in preseason/college.

[arnie_uk]

We have much different opinions then but that's what makes these discussions interesting.

the majoiry out us like a qb that can you know qb and not just sprint

[ellicottraven]

The problem with Tyrod is 'happy feet'. He goes through his reads well before the receivers have had time to get to their positions and then simply takes off... he needs to slow everything down some and allow the routes to develop before he takes off. It is even more baffling considering the O-line is protecting better than last year.

[redrum52]

the majoiry out us like a qb that can you know qb and not just sprint

On topic, haven't most of the guys gabe mentioned actually started or ran with the first team for substantial reps? I'm not and have never said start Tyrod, but for our system and his knowledge of the playbook, I think he fits us. You can't speak on how bad our weapons are for Flacco then expect a 2nd stringer to make backups of those bad or below average players shine.

[ravensdfan]

Why can't RBates cheer for one of our own guys? What's wrong with you all? Since when as a fan is it wrong to have faith in our own players? Geez.....

 

Oh I dont' know - perhaps you should revisit some of your comments in the many closed Flacco threads. Considering he's a starter I'd think your words would even hold more meaning there. Apparently you didn't think that was the case.

 

Cheer for him, like him, absolutely. Act like he's better than your starter - delusional.

[redrum52]

Oh I dont' know - perhaps you should revisit some of your comments in the many closed Flacco threads. Considering he's a starter I'd think your words would even hold more meaning there. Apparently you didn't think that was the case.

Cheer for him, like him, absolutely. Act like he's better than your starter - delusional.

You mean like when Flacco is compared to people who are better than him?

Sorry, said to be better than qbs better than him.

[redrum52]

Certain people seem to feel real entitled about their opinion, like their fingers deliver golden words on a platinum plate.  It's funny what is sometimes allowed and some times isn't.