Tyrod Taylor

[1/28/01]

This thread is just funny. Nothing more. What do you expect from a backup Qb that only gets reps in preseason?

The guy literally plays with players that might not make the team.

Tyrod should play with the starters, with the same play book as our starter. That means passing plays for both no more specialized playbook for his skill set. Call the same plays no matter who's in the game. If he can't perform then we should get a more suitable backup for this offense.

Pocket presence and accuracy have nothing to do with what team is on the field. Just sayin...

[gabefergy]

This thread is just funny. Nothing more. What do you expect from a backup Qb that only gets reps in preseason?

 

The guy literally plays with players that might not make the team.

 

Tyrod should play with the starters, with the same play book as our starter.  That means passing plays for both no more specialized playbook for his skill set.  Call the same plays no matter  who's in the game.  If he can't perform then we should get a more suitable backup for this offense.

No team plays their back-up QB with the starters. He plays with the back-ups because he is a back-up. As for the playcalling, it hasn't been that much different, especially with Kubiak. He was asked to make the same throws/progressions that Flacco was. The difference being, Tyrod can't complete simple passes.

[arnie_uk]

This thread is just funny. Nothing more. What do you expect from a backup Qb that only gets reps in preseason?

The guy literally plays with players that might not make the team.

Tyrod should play with the starters, with the same play book as our starter. That means passing plays for both no more specialized playbook for his skill set. Call the same plays no matter who's in the game. If he can't perform then we should get a more suitable backup for this offense.

maybe its the other players playing with a qb that might not make the team

[Ravenslifer]

If Tyrod has to start, I'd imagine the offense would go more conservatively in order to give him time to ease in the role.  He shouldn't be expected to be Joe, and he won't be - no quarterback just steps in and is in complete control of an offense from the get-go.  I for one am not a believer in the idea of a "qualified backup" - you either are a starter or your not, you can either control an offense or have one built to control what you do.  The FO and coaching staff have seen enough of Tyrod to feel comfortable going with him for the past few years.  A guy like Wenning is here because after this season Tyrod will probably look to compete for another job on another team, and even if he doesn't win, he'll stay with a team where he's more likely to get a shot to start, which won't be the Ravens.

[Guest RBates]

No team plays their back-up QB with the starters. He plays with the back-ups because he is a back-up. As for the playcalling, it hasn't been that much different, especially with Kubiak. He was asked to make the same throws/progressions that Flacco was. The difference being, Tyrod can't complete simple passes.

The backup QB most definitely practices with the ones.  How else would he get prepared to play in a game? i'm not so sure about him not being able to complete simple passes either.  The pass intended for that  super slow tight end Supernaw looked on point.  He just needed more speed in the route.  That what im talking about with the 2nd string players. 

[Guest RBates]

maybe its the other players playing with a qb that might not make the team

That would suck for us.  but whatever.  It seems that the Tyrod hating in Baltimore has reached its peak.  Now im on board with letting him go to another team that might be able to use him.  I hope Wenning is more of a dynamic player than what he has shown in his limited role.

[arnie_uk]

That would suck for us. but whatever. It seems that the Tyrod hating in Baltimore has reached its peak. Now im on board with letting him go to another team that might be able to use him. I hope Wenning is more of a dynamic player than what he has shown in his limited role.

why would it suck for us? He's crap. If he couldn't run fast he wouldn't be in the nfl

[gabefergy]

The backup QB most definitely practices with the ones.  How else would he get prepared to play in a game? i'm not so sure about him not being able to complete simple passes either.  The pass intended for that  super slow tight end Supernaw looked on point.  He just needed more speed in the route.  That what im talking about with the 2nd string players. 

Really? Because I'm pretty sure that's rarely the case. The starter is the guy who needs to be prepared for the game. The back-up plays with the 2nd string with the same gameplan, but he is essentially an afterthought. You are right that it probably doesn't help him get better. In the end, being a back-up QB is probably the best job in the NFL so I wouldn't worry about it all that much.

[Guest RBates]

why would it suck for us? He's crap. If he couldn't run fast he wouldn't be in the nfl

IF?????

[ravensdfan]

If Tyrod has to start, I'd imagine the offense would go more conservatively in order to give him time to ease in the role.  He shouldn't be expected to be Joe, and he won't be - no quarterback just steps in and is in complete control of an offense from the get-go.  I for one am not a believer in the idea of a "qualified backup" - you either are a starter or your not, you can either control an offense or have one built to control what you do.  The FO and coaching staff have seen enough of Tyrod to feel comfortable going with him for the past few years.  A guy like Wenning is here because after this season Tyrod will probably look to compete for another job on another team, and even if he doesn't win, he'll stay with a team where he's more likely to get a shot to start, which won't be the Ravens.

 

 

Joe's injury last season shows otherwise. If they were so confident in Tyrod they would NEVER have let Joe play with that hurt knee.

[Guest RBates]

Really? Because I'm pretty sure that's rarely the case. The starter is the guy who needs to be prepared for the game. The back-up plays with the 2nd string with the same gameplan, but he is essentially an afterthought. You are right that it probably doesn't help him get better. In the end, being a back-up QB is probably the best job in the NFL so I wouldn't worry about it all that much.

I'm not worried about it at all.  Tyrod is a very decent backup.  He just needs reps to play better.  I'll bet if he gets a camera crew to follow him around and make comments in the offseason about the extra work with receivers he is getting in then he would be a fan favorite. But its like you said who cares about a backup until the starter gets hurt.

[ravensdfan]

I'm not worried about it at all.  Tyrod is a very decent backup.  He just needs reps to play better.  I'll bet if he gets a camera crew to follow him around and make comments in the offseason about the extra work with receivers he is getting in then he would be a fan favorite. But its like you said who cares about a backup until the starter gets hurt.

 

I care about the back-up. It is the job of the back-up to come in and win some games if your starter goes down temporarily so you are still in the playoff hunt. Tyrod will not do that based on anything we've seen from him.

 

The guy is a great athlete - he is a sub par QB. Period. That is just a fact. This isn't college where you can get away with serious accuracy issues. Aren't you one of the guys screaming about Joe's accuracy throughout his career? Tyrod's is wayyyyyy worse. 

 

At least make an attempt to be consistent with your POV regarding QB talent - instead of letting your extreme bias for any QB that runs before passing shine through like a super nova.

[Guest RBates]

I care about the back-up. It is the job of the back-up to come in and win some games if your starter goes down temporarily so you are still in the playoff hunt. Tyrod will not do that based on anything we've seen from him.

 

The guy is a great athlete - he is a sub par QB. Period. That is just a fact. This isn't college where you can get away with serious accuracy issues. Aren't you one of the guys screaming about Joe's accuracy throughout his career? Tyrod's is wayyyyyy worse. 

 

At least make an attempt to be consistent with your POV regarding QB talent - instead of letting your extreme bias for any QB that runs before passing shine through like a super nova.

i think this is way off base.  He clearly has timing issues not really sure if its accuracy at all.  His ball placement could be better but with a shaky o-line that's not a stretch. Look at Flacco last season.  Tyrod plays behind that kinda line every time he takes the field.............Case closed..........You never know what kinda player he is until you let the man play with the same weapons as the starter and practice as if he is going to start. 

 

You keep calling him out in preseason when last year in my eyes he outplayed Flacco.  

[5aiah]

i think this is way off base.  He clearly has timing issues not really sure if its accuracy at all.  His ball placement could be better but with a shaky o-line that's not a stretch. Look at Flacco last season.  Tyrod plays behind that kinda line every time he takes the field.............Case closed..........You never know what kinda player he is until you let the man play with the same weapons as the starter and practice as if he is going to start. 

 

You keep calling him out in preseason when last year in my eyes he outplayed Flacco.  

Dude....

[arnie_uk]

i think this is way off base. He clearly has timing issues not really sure if its accuracy at all. His ball placement could be better but with a shaky o-line that's not a stretch. Look at Flacco last season. Tyrod plays behind that kinda line every time he takes the field.............Case closed..........You never know what kinda player he is until you let the man play with the same weapons as the starter and practice as if he is going to start.

You keep calling him out in preseason when last year in my eyes he outplayed Flacco.

edit scratch that itl land me in trouble

[The Raven]

i think this is way off base.  He clearly has timing issues not really sure if its accuracy at all.  His ball placement could be better but with a shaky o-line that's not a stretch. Look at Flacco last season.  Tyrod plays behind that kinda line every time he takes the field.............Case closed..........You never know what kinda player he is until you let the man play with the same weapons as the starter and practice as if he is going to start. 

 

You keep calling him out in preseason when last year in my eyes he outplayed Flacco.  

 

Every time you start to get your credibility back you say something like this. Smh.

[SecretAgentMan]

Here we go again

[SecretAgentMan]

Every time you start to get your credibility back you say something like this. Smh.

You know. I've had a crappy day, and this is literally the last thing I wanted to see right now....

Yeah, no. Tyrod= no. No no no no no. No. Hell no. I can't even comprehend it. My mind is going into a mental breakdown right now. I can figure it out. IVE GONE INSANE.

Tell me, if he outplayed Flacco, how did he not have the starting job. I need those IQ points back now, because I think I'm an even bigger idiot then I was before. This... Doesn't. Make. Logical. Sense.

Furthermore, why didn't he play better vs the Pats when he did get a chance to play if he outplayed Flacco....

[gabefergy]

i think this is way off base.  He clearly has timing issues not really sure if its accuracy at all.  His ball placement could be better but with a shaky o-line that's not a stretch. Look at Flacco last season.  Tyrod plays behind that kinda line every time he takes the field.............Case closed..........You never know what kinda player he is until you let the man play with the same weapons as the starter and practice as if he is going to start. 

 

You keep calling him out in preseason when last year in my eyes he outplayed Flacco.  

The only time he played last year was in gadget plays and the end of the NE game where he was TERRIBLE. I don't think this conversation is going to go anywhere productive because you clearly dislike Flacco and see something in Tyrod that the rest of us don't. I'll just say there are serious flaws with Tyrod's ability to go through progressions and a really poor release that do not help him at all. I don't see him in practice, and most reports indicate he is getting better, but when he is out there in actual games he looks lost.

[ravensdfan]

i think this is way off base.  He clearly has timing issues not really sure if its accuracy at all.  His ball placement could be better but with a shaky o-line that's not a stretch. Look at Flacco last season.  Tyrod plays behind that kinda line every time he takes the field.............Case closed..........You never know what kinda player he is until you let the man play with the same weapons as the starter and practice as if he is going to start. 

 

You keep calling him out in preseason when last year in my eyes he outplayed Flacco.  

 

 

lmao

 

You mean when he came in, gave up a pick 6 and a fumble? You just lost all credibility man.

[jazz1988]

Joe's injury last season shows otherwise. If they were so confident in Tyrod they would NEVER have let Joe play with that hurt knee.

 

I get the feeling even if we had a much better backup quarterback it still wouldn't have change anything and Flacco would be still playing with his injuried knee.I  look at it  like this if Tyrod was so terrible or if the coaches didn't have any confidence in him then they wouldn't have waited until the sixth round to draft a quarterback and they would have signed a veteran quarterback by now or before training camp even started.

 

Tyrod has his issues as a passer but it seems like he has the coaches confidence and people keep saying he's not good enough to help us win games but hey surprises can happen . I'm sure the coaches are keeping their eyes on Tyrod throughout these next preseason games and if he continues to disappoint then they can always sign a veteran quarterback like Kyle Orton or Josh Freemen.

[redrum52]

Joe's injury last season shows otherwise. If they were so confident in Tyrod they would NEVER have let Joe play with that hurt knee.

The teams going to Joe every chance to play if he can. Also, I think Joe wants to keep his starting record intact if possible.

[Tiz]

The team is telling tyrod to stop running for a reason. They need to seem his ability as a passer to make an adequate decision. He's stayed on the roster because his versatility not because his Qb play let's not get it twisted

[ravensdfan]

I get the feeling even if we had a much better backup quarterback it still wouldn't have change anything and Flacco would be still playing with his injuried knee.I  look at it  like this if Tyrod was so terrible or if the coaches didn't have any confidence in him then they wouldn't have waited until the sixth round to draft a quarterback and they would have signed a veteran quarterback by now or before training camp even started.

 

Tyrod has his issues as a passer but it seems like he has the coaches confidence and people keep saying he's not good enough to help us win games but hey surprises can happen . I'm sure the coaches are keeping their eyes on Tyrod throughout these next preseason games and if he continues to disappoint then they can always sign a veteran quarterback like Kyle Orton or Josh Freemen.

 

The Ravens have a history of finding it hard to let go of draft picks - even when they aren't panning out. That coupled with Joe's endurance probably kept Tyrod around for this long. I don't think it is a coincidence they drafted a QB this year. Remember, they are looking for a competent back-up - not starter - so I don't see why anything can be read into them waiting for the 6th round. Especially when Tyrod was drafted in the 6th round as well. 

 

The teams going to Joe every chance to play if he can. Also, I think Joe wants to keep his starting record intact if possible.

 

I would agree that they might have started him, but after seeing how immobile and ineffective he was injured, there is no way they would have left him in if they had an ounce of confidence in their back-up to win that game.

[Guest RBates]

Every time you start to get your credibility back you say something like this. Smh.

he outplayed Flacco in preseason?  Prove me wrong.  Ill wait.....

[Guest RBates]

lmao

 

You mean when he came in, gave up a pick 6 and a fumble? You just lost all credibility man.

ill take that.  You guys just keep watching. 

[PerpetuallyBored74]

lmao

 

You mean when he came in, gave up a pick 6 and a fumble? You just lost all credibility man.

 

Maybe he means that Tyrod looks better when giving up a pick six and fumbling than when Joe gives up a pick six or fumbles?

 

Like he's giving Tyrod more style points or something.

[1/28/01]

ill take that. You guys just keep watching.

RBates....what happened man? You seem to have lost it.

Flacco was outplayed by Taylor last preseason? Even if so (wasnt), thats what you're gonna hang your hat on? Yikes!

[Purple Nurple]

Taylor outplayed Flacco? Wha? Lmao. Ok.

Now it's one preseason game. Lordy Lordy.

[Guest RBates]

RBates....what happened man? You seem to have lost it.

Flacco was outplayed by Taylor last preseason? Even if so (wasnt), thats what you're gonna hang your hat on? Yikes!

He did and that was the only point to be made. Nothing more.  These cats are talking about the man like he is straight garbage. Just trying to set the record straight.