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Ray Rice is back to his oldself.

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Was lean, elusive and has burst again.. He is in serious SHAPE. He will have a huge year bookit.

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But needs to really rehab himself not just on the field but off it as well. But he is so far off to a great start hopefully!

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Rice looked good tonight with his runs and the shape he is in.  But you can't say he's back to his old self after watching just 3 runs.  We'll need a much larger sample size.

 

So, no bad news, but wait and see!

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He did look nice and athletic, and he wasn't trolling himself, I loolbforward to seeing our offense against a full defense though

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He looked rejuvenated that's for sure. He'll never be back to his old self unless you drive the car in reverse to roll back the miles. Which has been proven hard to do.

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Last year he was fat playing near 230lbs. Was slow, no balance, elusiveness or excelleration. Tonight he didn't even look like the same human being as the one we saw last year. In one drive he broke more tackles and made people miss in 3 carries.  I bet this year he averages 4.5 -5.0 ypc. He looks like he did his 2nd and 3rd year. He will win comeback player of the year award. Kubiaks schemes are perfect for him also.

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He looked rejuvenated that's for sure. He'll never be back to his old self unless you drive the car in reverse to roll back the miles. Which has been proven hard to do.

Well played, sir.

Rice looked better, no doubt. But it's PS1. Let's talk week 5/6

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Well played, sir.

Rice looked better, no doubt. But it's PS1. Let's talk week 5/6

 

Yea. Looking good is great, but the season is long especially for a player whose been used a ton in his career.  I'm a believer that he'll be better than last year, but that shouldn't be hard.  He'll also go as far as the OL will take him.  

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Yea. Looking good is great, but the season is long especially for a player whose been used a ton in his career. I'm a believer that he'll be better than last year, but that shouldn't be hard. He'll also go as far as the OL will take him.

It's all about the OL play. With all these RBs. I'm hopeful.

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No Bowman, no Willis, no Justin Smith. My initial euphoria turned into cautious optimism.

 

I agree, but there aren't too many defenses out there with the same caliber of players that Bowman/Willis/Smith are, or at least have 3 of the same caliber players playing in the front 7. Overall, Rice looked great tonight.

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For what it's worth, he's also going to be a steal in fantasy. He's rated like 75th on Yahoo for running backs or something insane if I remember. 

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For what it's worth, he's also going to be a steal in fantasy. He's rated like 75th on Yahoo for running backs or something insane if I remember. 

 

Be cautious with that b/c the Ravens running game will be by committee.  

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Offensive line also gave him the holes he needed to get to the second level.  Looked good out there tonight.

 

Yup, offensive line looked very good in the limited snaps we saw. That said, one of Rice's nice plays came with pressure in the backfield. Last year that seemed like a huge problem, that he could just not shed tackles. Last night he made two guys miss and got like a 6 yard gain. He definitely looked like his former self on that play. Lets hope it continues, but I think Ray's big thing was just that he was too heavy and poor blocking last year. I can't remember how much weight he lost since last season, but he looked much slimmer.

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He looked rejuvenated that's for sure. He'll never be back to his old self unless you drive the car in reverse to roll back the miles. Which has been proven hard to do.

IDK, he really doesn't have that many miles on the meter. In the 6 years he's played there's always been someone capable to share the load. I think last year was an aberration due to the injury, bulking up and in my mind most important, losing his pal Ray Ray.

I said it a couple of months ago, RR will have a career year in 2014.

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IDK, he really doesn't have that many miles on the meter. In the 6 years he's played there's always been someone capable to share the load. I think last year was an aberration due to the injury, bulking up and in my mind most important, losing his pal Ray Ray.

I said it a couple of months ago, RR will have a career year in 2014.

 

I think most importantly last year it was the horrendous OL blocking.  There were never any holes for Rice to slip through, and he really isn't a back who runs through multiple blocks well.  His value comes from getting through the first line and forcing the secondary to miss b/c of his ability to change directions in a dime.  It seemed like his weight last year was him trying to turn into more of a power back, but it threw off his center of balance and even when he managed to get through a hole, he no longer had the ability to shake guys off of him.

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IDK, he really doesn't have that many miles on the meter. In the 6 years he's played there's always been someone capable to share the load. I think last year was an aberration due to the injury, bulking up and in my mind most important, losing his pal Ray Ray.

I said it a couple of months ago, RR will have a career year in 2014.

 

He carried the ball nearly 1,000 times at Rutgers as compared to Gore (348), Lynch (490), and S-Jax (743).  Plus we go deep into the playoffs nearly every year.  Rice is the current active leader in playoff rushing attempts.  2012 during our SB season he rushed the ball 458 times that year.  

 

This stuff takes its toll over a career.  Running backs who have hit the 400+ carry mark in a season have shown to be not as effective the following year or two.  

 

I'm just as excited as anyone about the rejuvenated Ray Rice.  But I'm cautiously optimistic.  To me the O-Line is more important than what Rice brings to the table at this point.  

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Loved the way the first string o-line gelled last night and looked to be in sync albeit against a basically second string defense.

 

Side note...riding to work listening to Philly Sports Talk Radio was zero fun. A lot of Iggles fans calling in and bashing Ravens fans for cheering last night. Can't believe this is still an issue, but then again we are talking about the media and the non winning city of Philly.

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I think most importantly last year it was the horrendous OL blocking.  There were never any holes for Rice to slip through, and he really isn't a back who runs through multiple blocks well.  His value comes from getting through the first line and forcing the secondary to miss b/c of his ability to change directions in a dime.  It seemed like his weight last year was him trying to turn into more of a power back, but it threw off his center of balance and even when he managed to get through a hole, he no longer had the ability to shake guys off of him.

True, but I just think his head was elsewhere as well. It seemed more than anyone, Ray Ray was closest to RR and his retirement affected him.

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He carried the ball nearly 1,000 times at Rutgers as compared to Gore (348), Lynch (490), and S-Jax (743).  Plus we go deep into the playoffs nearly every year.  Rice is the current active leader in playoff rushing attempts.  2012 during our SB season he rushed the ball 458 times that year.  

 

This stuff takes its toll over a career.  Running backs who have hit the 400+ carry mark in a season have shown to be not as effective the following year or two.  

 

I'm just as excited as anyone about the rejuvenated Ray Rice.  But I'm cautiously optimistic.  To me the O-Line is more important than what Rice brings to the table at this point.

All accurate, but up until the hip thing last year he has always been healthy. RR will be fine when he returns in 2014.

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Anyone miss it when RR wouldn't stick his hand in the dirt like a kick stand and get another 2-3 yards? It was dangerous but always fun to see

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Anyone miss it when RR wouldn't stick his hand in the dirt like a kick stand and get another 2-3 yards? It was dangerous but always fun to see

 

He almost did it on that play near the Endzone when his helmet popped off. His knee had touched down and the play was ruled dead once his helmet came off but he almost had it again lol.

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Anyone miss it when RR wouldn't stick his hand in the dirt like a kick stand and get another 2-3 yards? It was dangerous but always fun to see

LOL! RR can walk on his nose and still keep goin'! Can't wait to see that kind of run again.

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IDK, he really doesn't have that many miles on the meter. In the 6 years he's played there's always been someone capable to share the load. I think last year was an aberration due to the injury, bulking up and in my mind most important, losing his pal Ray Ray.

I said it a couple of months ago, RR will have a career year in 2014.

Did you watch him at Rutgers? He's got a lot of wear on the body. He's been pretty durable, but certainly not a low milage certified used...

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Just liked what I saw on the limited time the first unit got to play. We can't show our hand this early, but a lot of rookies showed up, albeit against 2nd & 3rd unit D's, but I like what we've done and it's Flacco's time to shine. Got the player's, got the system, a good fit. JMO.

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