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Sorry to start a topic for this don't know if there's one already.. well I'm in a fantasy league with BIG money at stakes lol.

 

Right now i'm trying to trade our great Steve Smith for Brandin Cooks of the Saints. Everyone is saying hes so great in training camp. Would you guys do it ? I would also have to give up my 2nd back up RB Terrance West (which I really like but I don't need him)

 

He'll probably refuse my offer I just don't know if a rookie WR would be a better choice than a veteran like Smith whos be playing so great in training camp as well. I'm saying that because I already got 2 great WRs and my QB is Brees which would help.

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I wouldn't give up a solid boom candidate at running back to make what I would consider a lateral move at wide receiver.

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I think Cooks will most definitely put up better numbers than Smith, but you have to consider if you're gaining more points in Cooks than you would with Steve Smith and Terrence West. Do you have adequate players to replace them? West is looking to challenge for a starting spot.

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Cooks is still a rookie. And brees has always spread the ball around. Flacco is going to lean way more on smith than people realize. They are nearly a straight up type of trade. Adding in a potential break out player in west you are losing that trade. Heavily.

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Cooks is still a rookie. And brees has always spread the ball around. Flacco is going to lean way more on smith than people realize. They are nearly a straight up type of trade. Adding in a potential break out player in west you are losing that trade. Heavily.

Cooks is a jack of all trades apparently and has been the most dynamic player in that offense so far, apparently. No one on that roster, except for Jimmy Graham, is as electrifying as Cooks is right now. Plus, consider that Drew Brees routinely passes for well over 5,000 yards and 30 touchdowns. Cooks has a chance to be a very special player right away because the weapons in New Orleans, outside of Graham, are nothing truly special.

 

I would put a lot more money on Cooks doing better than Steve Smith. However, trading Terrance West and Steve Smith would not get better value with just Brandin Cooks.

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thanks a lot guys I've been reading everywhere that Cooks is UNREAL in the Saints scrimmages thats why but he refused the trade.

 

I offered West because I also have Gerhart, Pierce, Sankey. But West might be a real good one I don,t think Tate will be the only starter I guess they'll be 700 yards each of them some like that.

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Cooks is a jack of all trades apparently and has been the most dynamic player in that offense so far, apparently. No one on that roster, except for Jimmy Graham, is as electrifying as Cooks is right now. Plus, consider that Drew Brees routinely passes for well over 5,000 yards and 30 touchdowns. Cooks has a chance to be a very special player right away because the weapons in New Orleans, outside of Graham, are nothing truly special.

 

I would put a lot more money on Cooks doing better than Steve Smith. However, trading Terrance West and Steve Smith would not get better value with just Brandin Cooks.

Cooks is also a rookie and is going to struggle. He's going to be playing in an offense that requires a lot of checks and communication with Brees. Everyone hyped Tavon Austin up majorly last year and look what he did. Don't get me wrong Cooks is more pro-ready IMO, but I would go with Steve Smith over Cooks. The Saints may run the ball quite a bit this year and I see Stills being targeted heavily and Colston will put together another solid year. Nick Toon may shine as well, I think Cooks needs a year at least. 

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Cooks is also a rookie and is going to struggle. He's going to be playing in an offense that requires a lot of checks and communication with Brees. Everyone hyped Tavon Austin up majorly last year and look what he did. Don't get me wrong Cooks is more pro-ready IMO, but I would go with Steve Smith over Cooks. The Saints may run the ball quite a bit this year and I see Stills being targeted heavily and Colston will put together another solid year. Nick Toon may shine as well, I think Cooks needs a year at least. 

I thought Tayvon Austin was very overrated and was in St. Louis, an offense not exactly known for it's aerial assault. 

Kenny Stills got a whopping 51 targets, and he was pretty much a deep threat. I'm not exactly sold on Colston being this huge target. He's good for about 1,000 yards a year. Figure Jimmy Graham gets about 1,200ish. If you figure Brees gets his usual 5,200 yards, that's still 3,000 more that needs to go around. I don't think Nick Toon is going to be stealing a big role from Brandin Cooks. Toon is likely the number five receiver behind Cooks, Colston, Meachem, and Stills. Speaking of Meachem, he's not been doing much.

It's honestly really hard to not see Cooks having a really big year. He's electric and gives you a whole new dynamic in that offense because he can do it all. He fell into the perfect situation with Brees. 

 

I don't think he struggles much because of his situation. He's got an incredibly pass heavy team and a great quarterback to help ease him in. We'll see Thursday, briefly, just how good he is.

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If this is a redraft league it is probably SS and West. West has the chance to start if the always injured Tate goes down again. I would go Cooks over SS however. I don't see SS doing anything huge in terms of fantasy and I see a lot more upside with Cooks.

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I've always been a fan of Steve Smith, but I see more upside with Cooks as well. He's reportedly been a blur in the offseason workouts, playing on a different speed than other players. With Darren Sproles and Lance Moore both gone, I see him being leaned on quite a bit in the short-to-intermediate areas. It all depends on how much you value West.

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Just got my team. Out of 12 teams, I had pick 11. I got, in order:


1. Eddie Lacy


2. Dez Bryant


3. Giovani Bernard


4. Pierre Garcon


5. Bishop Sankey


6. Jordan Cameron


7. Philip Rivers


8. Greg Olsen


9. Cecil Shorts


10. Mark Ingram


11. Marvin Jones


12. Joe Flacco


13. Ladarius Green


14. Justin Tucker


15. Buccaneers Defense


16. Charles Sims


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Lacy at pick 11 is really nice value.

Assuming it is standard format I don't know if I would go 3 TEs, maybe more depth at RB or WR but not bad overall

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Lacy at pick 11 is really nice value.

Assuming it is standard format I don't know if I would go 3 TEs, maybe more depth at RB or WR but not bad overall

It's a PPR. I'm going to shop Olsen once the season gets rolling. He was better value then the receivers left on the board. Receivers went quickly

EDIT: Desperation will set in at some point. A lot of these teams have one tight end, and ones that aren't that good, like Delanie Walker

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Okay, so, I have the chance to trade Marques Colston for Jordan Cameron with Greg Olsen being my backup tight end

 

EDIT:  I see your draft posting.  You would be moving Cameron for Colston not the other way around.  Considering that you have Cecil and Marvin Jones, I would say yes.  Especially since you are carrying 3 TEs.  But you are losing some value. 

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EDIT:  I see your draft posting.  You would be moving Cameron for Colston not the other way around.  Considering that you have Cecil and Marvin Jones, I would say yes.  Especially since you are carrying 3 TEs.  But you are losing some value.

I'm trying to see if I can get Michael Floyd from a guy
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10 team, no PPR:


 


QB: Tom Brady 


RB: Jamaal Charles


RB: Andre Ellington


WR: Demaryius Thomas


WR: Brandon Marshall


TE: Jordan Reed


FLEX: Vincent Jackson


D/ST: Eagles (Play Jaguars week 1, will rotate each week)


K: Dan Bailey


 


BN: QB Tony Romo


BN: RB CJ Spiller


BN: RB Lamar Miller


BN: RB Bernard Pierce


BN: WR Justin Hunter


BN: WR Josh Gordon


BN: TE Zach Ertz


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10 team, no PPR:

 

QB: Tom Brady 

RB: Jamaal Charles

RB: Andre Ellington

WR: Demaryius Thomas

WR: Brandon Marshall

TE: Jordan Reed

FLEX: Vincent Jackson

D/ST: Eagles (Play Jaguars week 1, will rotate each week)

K: Dan Bailey

 

BN: QB Tony Romo

BN: RB CJ Spiller

BN: RB Lamar Miller

BN: RB Bernard Pierce

BN: WR Justin Hunter

BN: WR Josh Gordon

BN: TE Zach Ertz

 

handcuffs but otherwise well done

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handcuffs but otherwise well done

 

Thanks.  I was going to draft Knile Davis and keep him around until the season started just in case anything happened to, but ESPN makes you fill every roster spot via the draft meaning I couldn't drat Davis instead of the Eagles defense like I was planning to do and have done in other leagues.

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Thanks.  I was going to draft Knile Davis and keep him around until the season started just in case anything happened to, but ESPN makes you fill every roster spot via the draft meaning I couldn't drat Davis instead of the Eagles defense like I was planning to do and have done in other leagues.

guessing you had the 2nd pick right?

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Tony Romo

 

Roddy White

Michael Crabtree

Mike Wallace 

Reggie Wayne

Cecil Shorts

 

LeSean McCoy

Demarco Murray

Arian Foster

Ray Rice

Mark Ingram

 

Rob Gronkowski

Jordan Reed

 

Alex Henery

 

Saints D/ST

 

Only regret is not having a legit #1 stud, but given the popularity of zero rb i decided to hoard and screw ppl over. Worth it. 

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Someone convince me that Julio Jones is a #1 fantasy WR.

Where was he ranked among WRs in fantasy before he got injured?

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Someone convince me that Julio Jones is a #1 fantasy WR.

prior to injury last year, he was on pace for 1856 yards and i think 12 scores which would have made him #2 behind Josh Gordon. Additionally with Tony G gone, Julio's target numbers are bound to increase. Given the Falcon's still have no defense, expect Matt Ryan to lead the league in passing attempts. 

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2nd Draft (4th overall pick)

 

Cam Newton

Tony Romo

 

Matt Forte

Montee Ball

Frank Gore

Steven Jackson

 

Antonio Brown

Michael Crabtree

Reggie Wayne

Markus Wheaton

Jarret Boykin

 

Rob Gronkowski

Kyle Rudolph

 

Arizona D/ST

 

Justin Tucker 

 

Overall I feel this is a very well rounded team. Wide Receiver is the only position i don't feel super about, but even then I should be good. 

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8 team league. My 2 keepers were Rodgers & Dez. Here's what I ended up with, what do y'all think?

....

QB Aaron Rodgers

RB Alfred Morris

RB Doug Martin

WR Dez Bryant

WR Antonio Brown

TE Dennis Pitta

FLEX Ryan Mathews

D/ST Ravens D/ST

K Sebastian Janikowski

BE Emmanuel Sanders

BE Jordan Reed

BE Michael Crabtree

BE Bishop Sankey

BE Riley Cooper

BE Joe Flacco

BE Bills D/ST

I love having a great TE2 to put in the flex sometimes. Since I drafted I've dropped SeaBass for Blair Walsh and Bills for Bengals. I also picked 4th overall.

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I am buying into Martin more and more as his situation seems to be improving. I am not a fan of sanders. I strongly believe he will cost the broncos a game because he is prone to mental gaffes causing ints for Ben several times and he's going to be asked to do more here.

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8 team league. My 2 keepers were Rodgers & Dez. Here's what I ended up with, what do y'all think?

....

QB Aaron Rodgers

RB Alfred Morris

RB Doug Martin

WR Dez Bryant

WR Antonio Brown

TE Dennis Pitta

FLEX Ryan Mathews

D/ST Ravens D/ST

K Sebastian Janikowski

BE Emmanuel Sanders

BE Jordan Reed

BE Michael Crabtree

BE Bishop Sankey

BE Riley Cooper

BE Joe Flacco

BE Bills D/ST

I love having a great TE2 to put in the flex sometimes. Since I drafted I've dropped SeaBass for Blair Walsh and Bills for Bengals. I also picked 4th overall.

No glaring weakness but personal preference.. For a 8 team league I feel you should have more RB depth

Like instead of cooper maybe a Cunningham at worst or even one of Moreno/miller based on how it looks like you drafted

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