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AFC North ranked most unpredictable race, Ravens emerge on top.

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A good read with the columnist going over the best case scenario, worst case scenario, and predictions for each team.

 

If nothing else it's pretty funny to see the Steelers fan base crying in the comments because they are last.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000370987/article/afc-north-the-nfls-most-unpredictable-division-race-in-2014?Campaign=Twitter_writers_schein

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The team I'm most afraid of is Cleveland. They're gonna have a top 5 secondary(therefore an almost top 5 defense), a top 5 O-line, And when Gordon comes back they'll have a good offense.

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Interesting read. I like some of Adam Schein's article. Only time will tell though. Oh btw, nice to see somebody giving us some love.

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That's pretty much the story of the AFCN. 

 

Browns: Great defense but questions at QB

Bengals: Most talented team, decent QB

Steelers: Good, but they'll be great because they're the Steelers.

Ravens: Ok defense, meh QB, bad offense - somehow have the most wins over recent timeline

 

 

I'm not gonna complain, I'm just wondering what people see in us if they think none of our players are particularly good.

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Someone said in the NFL this year, half the teams will go 8-8 and the other half will be 9-7 or 7-9. That's how I see the AFCN. Each of these teams has a strong defense.

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The team I'm most afraid of is Cleveland. They're gonna have a top 5 secondary(therefore an almost top 5 defense), a top 5 O-line, And when Gordon comes back they'll have a good offense.

Gordon is suspended full season. After that he has another arrest & dui to deal with

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Pitts-burgh will always be Pitts-burgh.  They will ALWAYS play their butts off. That game will NEVER be a cake walk for us.

Two years ago I said Cincy is going to be a thorn in our side for some time to come.

I dont see that thorn being removed any time soon.

 

Cleveland plays tough no question.  They just need a bit more to put them on par with the rest of AFCN.

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Pretty interesting article, i pretty much agree with most of what he said. I already made my AFC North prediction though

mine:

1 - Cincy - tons of talent on both sides of the ball, biggest question marks to me would be the two safeties. i can see anywhere from 11-13 wins, I predicted just 11

2 - Ravens - again tons of talent on both sides of the ball. The amount of question marks gives me worry a bit. The improvements to the Oline and Receiving Corps should give Flacco his best year as a Raven. The only worry really is how the offense will jell with Kubiak's system, we won't truly know until we see the unit in action. I'm not particularly worried about Defense to be honest, i think we can replace lost options fairly easily, Safety positions should be much improved with Elam in his natural position. I'm thinking 10 or 11 wins

3 - Pittsburgh - I have no confidence in their Secondary at all, Mitchell is borderline serviceable and Polomalu is old and often injured, also, ive got no faith in Gay or Taylor at all, Gay just plain isnt good and Taylor is 34. Their oline is still a question even with injured players coming back, itll be improved but still mediocre. Big Ben isnt the same guy he was a few years back, years of producing miracles have taken a toll on him. It seems he is always injured (and trying to play through it). he can't escape like he used to and thats what made him good, his ability to make something out of nothing is nearly gone. i think 7 or 8 wins

4 - Browns - plain and simple: no QB, 1 good WR, 1 decent RB. Their Defense is the real deal. Haden is one of the best CB in the league and Gilbert has potential (i don't like him honestly but ill give him a fair chance). I think they took a step back releasing Jackson for Dansby really but its not a big step back, Dansby is still a good ILB. I am not a fan of Manziel at all, i don't think he'll be good but even if he were he and Hoyer can't work with what theyve got anyway. Gordon's suspension makes all the difference in the world, with him they would have a chance to at least break even record wise. im thinking 4 or 5 wins

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I think the Bengals have the talent but didn't they just lose both coordinators. That sounds kinda tough to me man....

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Pretty interesting article, i pretty much agree with most of what he said. I already made my AFC North prediction though

mine:

1 - Cincy - tons of talent on both sides of the ball, biggest question marks to me would be the two safeties. i can see anywhere from 11-13 wins, I predicted just 11

2 - Ravens - again tons of talent on both sides of the ball. The amount of question marks gives me worry a bit. The improvements to the Oline and Receiving Corps should give Flacco his best year as a Raven. The only worry really is how the offense will jell with Kubiak's system, we won't truly know until we see the unit in action. I'm not particularly worried about Defense to be honest, i think we can replace lost options fairly easily, Safety positions should be much improved with Elam in his natural position. I'm thinking 10 or 11 wins

3 - Pittsburgh - I have no confidence in their Secondary at all, Mitchell is borderline serviceable and Polomalu is old and often injured, also, ive got no faith in Gay or Taylor at all, Gay just plain isnt good and Taylor is 34. Their oline is still a question even with injured players coming back, itll be improved but still mediocre. Big Ben isnt the same guy he was a few years back, years of producing miracles have taken a toll on him. It seems he is always injured (and trying to play through it). he can't escape like he used to and thats what made him good, his ability to make something out of nothing is nearly gone. i think 7 or 8 wins

4 - Browns - plain and simple: no QB, 1 good WR, 1 decent RB. Their Defense is the real deal. Haden is one of the best CB in the league and Gilbert has potential (i don't like him honestly but ill give him a fair chance). I think they took a step back releasing Jackson for Dansby really but its not a big step back, Dansby is still a good ILB. I am not a fan of Manziel at all, i don't think he'll be good but even if he were he and Hoyer can't work with what theyve got anyway. Gordon's suspension makes all the difference in the world, with him they would have a chance to at least break even record wise. im thinking 4 or 5 wins

For some reason, I feel like the Steelers are more than 7 or 8 wins. I still think Big Ben can produce if protected (well all QBs need protection, who are we kidding). I agree with us though. I just want to scream 10-6, but I just want to make the playoffs since most of my friends (and my dad for the most part who's a 9ers fan) almost always doubt the Ravens.

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I think the Bengals have the talent but didn't they just lose both coordinators. That sounds kinda tough to me man....

I don't know much about Hue Jackson outside of his time with the Raiders, but I've heard that he's a good OC. 

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I don't know much about Hue Jackson outside of his time with the Raiders, but I've heard that he's a good OC.

Hue Jackson is great. 2009 is still our best statistical offense in the Flacco era.
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I think we win 11.

I haven't decided yet if Cincy also wins 11, or wins 10. I am leaning towards 10 since their schedule is (should be) a bit tougher.

PIT wins 8 again.

CLE snatches 5.

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I think the NFC East is more of a crap shoot.

Every year there's a different winner in that division. Cowboys are due...... For me it's the NFC west. The only thing that would surprise me is if Seattle finishes last in that division...

I think the Steelers surprise some people this year. The bengals & them battle it out for 2nd place and wild card. Cleveland sits at the bottom for another year. Ravens win it with 11-5.

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For some reason, I feel like the Steelers are more than 7 or 8 wins. I still think Big Ben can produce if protected (well all QBs need protection, who are we kidding). I agree with us though. I just want to scream 10-6, but I just want to make the playoffs since most of my friends (and my dad for the most part who's a 9ers fan) almost always doubt the Ravens.

im more worried about their defense than their offense really, but i don't think Big Ben can save this team either, he can't be relied upon to stay healthy after all he's had to do over the years. That secondary is what really gets me. Polamalu is old and just can't shake the injuries. Mitchell isnt an upgrade over Clark and just a couple days ago was put on their PUP list. Gay was never more than an average CB + he's 29 (will turn 30 during the season) and Ike Taylor is 34 now. That secondary is in heaps of trouble

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I am pretty torn on what happens in the AFC North honestly so I won't do any rankings here but I will give my thoughts on each team.

 

Ravens - I like what Kubiak is doing and I think the offense will be better. Defense should be good although I am concerned a bit with secondary. The big question for me is how long it takes for us to get the system down and for the chemistry to arrive. With that said, I think we get back to the playoffs.

 

Steelers - They have brought in Munchak to help their O-line(similar to us with Kubiak) and they have a solid group over there. They should be a smash mouth team with Bell and Blount and their offense looks good. My concern with them is also the secondary, specifically at CB. They are pretty similar to us in all honesty.

 

Bengals - They have spectacular talent but my question is the coordinators. My second biggest question is Dalton, probably the most inconsistent QB in the league who looks spectacular one week and atrocious the next. With that all said, they have super bowl level talent on both sides of the ball.

 

Browns - This is the boom or bust team right here. Losing Gordon for the season takes their sails out a bit but they still have a good O-line, Cameron at TE, and a very solid defense. It all really hinges on QB and WR for them. Hawkins is decent as is Austin and Burleson but there is not much else with that and it is an unspectacular group to be kind. Then there is the QB debate of Hoyer and Manziel. Can either win the job and more importantly do well or will this just be another typical Browns season with lackluster QB play?

 

Overall the teams are close, I don't see many games separating the winner from the last place team here so it should be entertaining to watch it all unfold in the regular season. Hopefully the Ravens can do it

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I don't know why everyone keeps saying the bengals are the most talented team in the division.Were better than them at every position outside of the wide receiver and safety positions.We have the better quarterback,better running backs,better tight ends,better linebacker corp and better cornerbacks.Our O-lines and D-lines are a wash IMO.We also have the better return man and the best kicker in the league.I forgot to add special teams in there.

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Bold prediction for AFCN:  The Bengals will take a surprising Texans-like dive from first to worst this year.  No one saw it coming in Houston last year, and no one will see it coming in Cincy this year.

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I think the Bengals have the talent but didn't they just lose both coordinators. That sounds kinda tough to me man....

Not that big of a deal being hue jackson is still there and Marvin Lewis is still hc. Continuity is in place there pretty much like how we handle things here.

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I don't know why everyone keeps saying the bengals are the most talented team in the division.Were better than them at every position outside of the wide receiver and safety positions.We have the better quarterback,better running backs,better tight ends,better linebacker corp and better cornerbacks.Our O-lines and D-lines are a wash IMO.We also have the better return man and the best kicker in the league.I forgot to add special teams in there.

I tend to agree. A lot of people talk about the Bengals talent because they have some superstars, but I think as a unit the Ravens may have more talent. It is just spread more, which is a good thing.

 

WR1 = Bengals

WR2 = Ravens

LT = Bengals

LG = Ravens (Based off of potential)

C = Wash

RG = Ravens

RT = Bengals (Unknown for Ravens)

TE1 = Ravens

TE2 = Bengals

QB = Ravens

RB = Wash

 

Offense = Pretty much a wash. A lot of people see AJ Green who is a superstar in this league and automatically vault the Bengals up over everyone in the AFCN; but as a whole, the talent is pretty even.

 

FS = Wash (Unknown for Ravens)

SS = Ravens (Based on potential)

CB1 = Ravens (Potential for Bengals w/ Dennard)

CB2 = Ravens

SAM = Wash

MIKE = Wash

WILL = Bengals (Burfict > Mosley until Mosley proves something)

LDE = Wash

LDT = Bengals

RDT = Bengals (Atkins > Ngata at this point...although injured Atkins??)

RDE = Ravens (Suggs)

 

Defense = Should be a wash based on talent; although last year's rankings would not tell you that. The Ravens have a slightly better secondary I think, but there are plenty of unknowns for both teams. I think the Ravens have potential for a stronger LB core of Upshaw/Dum-Smith-Mosley/Brown and soon to be Upshaw-Mosley-Brown; but currently it is a wash - or slightly leaning towards the Bengals with how well Vontaze played last year. The D Line is similar to the LBs. I would give the Bengals the slight edge, but Baltimore has some potential to be great w/ KLM/Urban-Williams-Ngata/Jernigan-Suggs/McPhee.

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3 - Pittsburgh - I have no confidence in their Secondary at all, Mitchell is borderline serviceable and Polomalu is old and often injured, also, ive got no faith in Gay or Taylor at all, Gay just plain isnt good and Taylor is 34. Their oline is still a question even with injured players coming back, itll be improved but still mediocre. Big Ben isnt the same guy he was a few years back, years of producing miracles have taken a toll on him. It seems he is always injured (and trying to play through it). he can't escape like he used to and thats what made him good, his ability to make something out of nothing is nearly gone. i think 7 or 8 wins

 

Pittsburgh has a lot to prove and some of your thoughts and evaluations are certainly valid. However, I think you're off on Ben. Ben had one of his best seasons ever last year. It's to soon to write him off. You way underestimate his remaining capacity to escape and create. The Steelers went 6-2 in the second half last season and they should be better on the O-line and at running back. I think there will be a slight upgrade at line backer. The receiving corp is unproven outside of Antonio Brown and you are right, the secondary is a huge question mark. But Ben has the ability to put this team on his shoulders and will it to some key wins. No way the Steelers dig themselves an 0-4 hole again. Remember, after that they were 8-4. The North will be a dog fight. Unless Andy Dalton improves, it will be the Ravens and Steelers grinding it out for the title. 

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Bold prediction for AFCN:  The Bengals will take a surprising Texans-like dive from first to worst this year.  No one saw it coming in Houston last year, and no one will see it coming in Cincy this year.

This would not shock me. The Bengals do not have the solid top to bottom organization or the winning tradition of the Steelers and Ravens. It wouldn't take much to put them into a tailspin. I don't see them being quite as bad as the Texans…6 -7 wins. 

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Unless Andy Dalton improves, it will be the Ravens and Steelers grinding it out for the title

 

Thankfully the natural order will be restored this year. 

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I don't know why everyone keeps saying the bengals are the most talented team in the division.Were better than them at every position outside of the wide receiver and safety positions.We have the better quarterback,better running backs,better tight ends,better linebacker corp and better cornerbacks.Our O-lines and D-lines are a wash IMO.We also have the better return man and the best kicker in the league.I forgot to add special teams in there.

It's what NFL.com says, so must be true

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i wouldnt count the steelers out, just saying. i thinik we'll win the division, but a big ben led team worries me, now that they have an improved OL, a younger and faster defense, and a very scary running game, i think le'veon bell is gonna be a premier back and we all saw what legarrette blount did to us last year. 

 

i still think we split the series with them and win the division by 1 game, i think they take the 5 seed and the bengals take the 6. 

 

also predicting a divisional or AFC championship game against the steelers.

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Not that big of a deal being hue jackson is still there and Marvin Lewis is still hc. Continuity is in place there pretty much like how we handle things here.

losing mike zimmer is a huge deal, his defensive scheme gave joe flacco headaches in his younger years, remember the 4-int game he had against them? that was his scheming of the cover-2 and it ate our passing game alive sometimes

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