2015 Draft a Franchise (NBA): Discussion.

[gabefergy]

So if OKC has 3 of the top 20ish players in their prime and "2 of the top 6" together for a few years now and they still can't win

Wonder what's up that

Injuries happen. They aren't a deep team. Their coach is terrible.

[gabefergy]

I don't care what anyone says, Westbrooks's per 36 numbers are ridiculous: 25.5 Points. 8.1 Assists, 6.7 Boards, 2.2 Steals. 43% shooting and 82% FTs.

 

There's like 3 players in the NBA that can that.

[SecretAgentMan]

So if OKC has 3 of the top 20ish players in their prime and "2 of the top 6" together for a few years now and they still can't win

Wonder what's up that

3 players don't make up a team. They have the talent to win it all especially if Adams and Lamb both develop. They also have good roll players as well.

Brooks is just a bad coach

[52520Andrew]

This is getting ridiculous. Everyone is either being a total homer or a total hater, some of these points are very biased.

I agree with this although in reality this is what happens with most sports talk.

[Gordo52]

IMO Westbrook is a top 5 talent. Athleticism/build/speed, physically he's got it all. However I think he takes too many stupid shots and doesn't pass enough. He's great in his own right but when your the PG playing next to Durant, (the greatest scorer in the world) more shots should go to him, and it shouldn't be close. I think Russell wants to be "The Guy" so bad, that it hurts their team. Not having a good 3rd scoring option doesn't help either so how much can you fault him? If he facilitated the ball more and held back his trigger finger, I think he'd be a better player. Only a select few PG's would play better next to Durant. It also depends on the system. IMO, Rondo is not one of them.

[NFLfan123]

Not according to his PER.

PER is nice and all but not something to base an entire evaluation on. I watched every celtics game from the 2010-2013 season and it's not hard to see he's been improving. Particularly his shooting. He was easily playing at his best in 2012-13.

[stm85]

LeBron

KD

CP3

Davis

Melo

Curry

Westbrook

Love

Harden

George

[gabefergy]

PER is nice and all but not something to base an entire evaluation on. I watched every celtics game from the 2010-2013 season and it's not hard to see he's been improving. Particularly his shooting. He was easily playing at his best in 2012-13.

I agree his shot has improved quite a bit, but the numbers I posted regarding his work at the rim isn't as good. He's attempting less and less layups and making them at a lower clip. His inability to get to the FT line and make his shots is also a major flaw in his game.

[Mt. Crushmore]

The things that happen when we have to wait a long time for a pick...

[NFLfan123]

The things that happen when we have to wait a long time for a pick...

Of course it's ravensnick

[gabefergy]

I think we can cross-league skip him right?

[Mt. Crushmore]

3 hours until skip

[MoveThoseChains]

Anyone have the link to the Big Board??

[Mt. Crushmore]

Anyone have the link to the Big Board??

 

http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/58991-nba-draft-a-franchise-big-board/

 

It can also be found if you scroll down a few threads.

[T3hRaven]

This is getting ridiculous. Everyone is either being a total homer or a total hater, some of these points are very biased.

There's not really an inbetween with Westbrook.

[codizzle]

This is getting ridiculous. Everyone is either being a total homer or a total hater, some of these points are very biased.

Someone's catching on haha

[codizzle]

There's not really an inbetween with Westbrook.

And that goes for us here and for Westbrook himself

[NFLfan123]

There's not really an inbetween with Westbrook.

For me there is. I see Westbrook as a top 10 NBA player and a top 5 PG but I don't see him as the godly player others do nor the scrub as others feel he is

[Mt. Crushmore]

2 hours until skip

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

2 hours until skip

 

20 minutes...

[Mt. Crushmore]

20 minutes...

 

My time stamp says 7:36 pm for the pick and it is 6:17 pm for me right now (central).  

 

Not complaining though as I would rather it be 20 minutes.  My time stamps have been messed up before.

Edited June 30, 2014 by Mt. Crushmore

[codizzle]

For me there is. I see Westbrook as a top 10 NBA player and a top 5 PG but I don't see him as the godly player others do nor the scrub as others feel he is

Funny thing is people will list 4 or so PG's over him but still call him a top 10 player

So does that mean at least 5 of the top 10 players in the league are PG's?

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Next pick can go whenever

[T3hRaven]

It's ER20 I think.

[allblackraven]

 

For me there is. I see Westbrook as a top 10 NBA player and a top 5 PG but I don't see him as the godly player others do nor the scrub as others feel he is

 

I don't think you're really in the middle - top 10 in the NBA sounds pretty godly to me.

 

Funny thing is people will list 4 or so PG's over him but still call him a top 10 player

So does that mean at least 5 of the top 10 players in the league are PG's?

I was wondering, too.

[T3hRaven]

I don't think the NBA is a very deep or a very talented league right now, so maybe most of the top players are PGs.  I think more has been asked of that position in recent years.

 

Maybe I'm just lamenting the death of the dominant big man.

[Mt. Crushmore]

ER is up in both now and hasn't been on for about 22 hours.  I've PM'd him.

[NFLfan123]

Funny thing is people will list 4 or so PG's over him but still call him a top 10 player

So does that mean at least 5 of the top 10 players in the league are PG's?

I listed two PGs over him

[NFLfan123]

I don't think you're really in the middle - top 10 in the NBA sounds pretty godly to me.

I was wondering, too.

You should see what others have been saying about him then.

[gabefergy]

Funny thing is people will list 4 or so PG's over him but still call him a top 10 player

So does that mean at least 5 of the top 10 players in the league are PG's?

I think 5 of the top 10 players in the NBA being PGs is reasonable...CP3, Westbrook, Curry, Rose, maybe Parker. Lillard, Wall and Irving could be in that discussion soon.

 

I don't see anyone listing 4 PGs ahead of Westbrook though. He is 2 or 3 on pretty much every list I see.