Trading for Eric Berry a possibility?

[NFLfan123]

You've always been one of my favorite posters.

This guy gets it

Honestly if Ozzie doesn't jump on this offer he needs to be fired ASAP

[NFLfan123]

I can see why your sig says that you are the Raiders' GM

I should be the Ravens GM tho

A trade for AP needs to happen

Give em two first and take the HOFer

[BSHU_Miami]

Serious question, when did you start watching football?

[ravensdan]

A brave little toaster?

Nice!

[Ausman]

While you're at it, why don't you ask for a LB that is as close to Ray Lewis in his prime as well.  A left tackle like Jonathan Ogden and we'll be set FOREVER.  

/sarcasm.  

 

I think I'm actually excited about CJ Mosely

[Ausman]

Nothing wrong with wanting a playmaking safety but I don't  think  we should use Ed Reed as a measuring point  towards the expectations of our rookie safety or starting safety. i think doing that will constantly leave you disappointed even if the safety  is pretty solid.

 

If we have a strong front 7 (which I still gotta see)

 

- Courtney Upshaw needs to step up he is heading towards bust potential.

- Dumervil and Suggs need to play a full 16 games + playoffs without slowing down.

- Daryl Smith needs to continue to pick up where he left off last year while taking CJ under his wing.

- Webb and Jimmy continue doing their thing.

 

Than I'm happy with having "Average" Safeties.

[SecretAgentMan]

If we have a strong front 7 (which I still gotta see)

 

- Courtney Upshaw needs to step up he is heading towards bust potential.

- Dumervil and Suggs need to play a full 16 games + playoffs without slowing down.

- Daryl Smith needs to continue to pick up where he left off last year while taking CJ under his wing.

- Webb and Jimmy continue doing their thing.

 

Than I'm happy with having "Average" Safeties.

1. Upshaw isn't a bust. Rather a disappointment, Bust would imply that he's a terrible player which he's not. He's a Jarret Johnson clone who actually plays a good amount. However he can't rush the passer. 

2. Agreed. They are our only sources of pass rush and that concerns me. Especially if they go down.

3. Is there any doubt he does this? If age does in fact catch up to him, we do have two contingency plans. 

4. Again, any doubt? If anything Webb needs to return to his old form.

5. Elam was in the SS spot vs Detroit, which was easily the best game of his career. If he plays like that consistently, then we've got ourselves a pro bowler.  So he might not be  "average"

[Bltravens]

He can play! But he hits harder than Ed ever did!

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until this line you pulled out.

I happen to think Berry is a quality player with hybrid capabilities to move around the field.  I think he's a pretty dynamic player.

But either you forget, or never saw Ed in his prime, no one at 5'11 205 hit harder than Ed Reed.  Reed used to lay the lumber.

[TDubbs]

But either you forget, or never saw Ed in his prime, no one at 5'11 205 hit harder than Ed Reed.  Reed used to lay the lumber.

 

Exactly ... Even Ed's final season in Baltimore vs. the Patriots week 3 (The Torrey Smith game). Absolutely destroyed Branch and Edelman. 

[jdynamite]

Wow. 1st rounder and Webb is a pretty steep price. And I actually like Berry. ( ppl on these boards get hung up on position listings. Berry is versatile enough to play both safety positions he is not just a SS ) with that said it's not a move I would want to see made. Webb is much too valuable a player, Webb can play multiple positions within the secondary and also J.Smith hasn't gotten an extension yet so trading Webb, without Jimmy signed to long term deal could have us in CB bind down the line.

Who knows perhaps Antrel Rolle could become cap casualty, get a cheap Ozzie deal.

[ravensnick]

Exactly ... Even Ed's final season in Baltimore vs. the Patriots week 3 (The Torrey Smith game). Absolutely destroyed Branch and Edelman. 

I was at MT&T during that game. Ed destroyed (even though he did get a penalty for the Branch hit). 

[ravensnick]

Wow. 1st rounder and Webb is a pretty steep price. And I actually like Berry. ( ppl on these boards get hung up on position listings. Berry is versatile enough to play both safety positions he is not just a SS ) with that said it's not a move I would want to see made. Webb is much too valuable a player, Webb can play multiple positions within the secondary and also J.Smith hasn't gotten an extension yet so trading Webb, without Jimmy signed to long term deal could have us in CB bind down the line.

Who knows perhaps Antrel Rolle could become cap casualty, get a cheap Ozzie deal.

I doubt they would get rid of Rolle, considering they just got rid of Hill.

[Tru11]

closest thing to an Ed Reed if there is such a thing  its that fella in seattle called earl thomas....

 

this thread is hilarious lol

[D-Rey]

Dude I know Ed Reed is the Greatest Safety to ever play the game and yes even better than Ronnie Lott! No questions asked.

 

You guy are mising my point. I want a saftey that is as close to Ed Reed in his prime as possible!

 

I am using Ed Reed as a Measuring Point to the calibur of Safety we should have!

Ed Reed is a once in a generation player, just like Ray Lewis.

[display name]

I should be the Ravens GM tho

A trade for AP needs to happen

Give em two first and take the HOFer

That will never happen. Peterson is great and is certainly worthy of the HOF honor. But he is already 29 years old and heading into his 8th season. RBs generally don't last very long after that. Peterson has produced outstanding play all throughout his career, but I don't think he has more than 2 seasons left with that same level of production.

And I'm not giving up 2 first round choices for only 2 seasons of Adrian Peterson playing at a HOF level. Peterson also said that Ravens fans are the worst in the league, and so bringing him in would almost be like when Jason Taylor went to the Jets in 2010.

[Ausman]

Wow. 1st rounder and Webb is a pretty steep price. And I actually like Berry. ( ppl on these boards get hung up on position listings. Berry is versatile enough to play both safety positions he is not just a SS ) with that said it's not a move I would want to see made. Webb is much too valuable a player, Webb can play multiple positions within the secondary and also J.Smith hasn't gotten an extension yet so trading Webb, without Jimmy signed to long term deal could have us in CB bind down the line.

Who knows perhaps Antrel Rolle could become cap casualty, get a cheap Ozzie deal.

 

I would love Antrel Rolle!

[rmw10]

Can this thread just die now?

[K-Dog]

Can this thread just die now?

We need something to talk about until camp.

These next few weeks usually get pretty entertaining around here.

[Ausman]

Can this thread just die now?

 

Sure go to my baseball thread in the off topic forum!

[GrimCoconut]

I'd rather move Brooks to CB and draft Drummond next year than trade for Eric Berry, who I feel would be like Matt Elam at FS. 

[Poes Crows]

No....

 

BUT....Cleats, Brooks and Stewart are Clearly not the answer.

 

The answer is the same as it ever was.

 

Back to the Future!

 

 

So far I haven't heard any rave review on Terrence Brooks and he doesn't seem to be standing out.

 

Darian Stewart is nothing more than a rental at this point.

 

One season will tell where we are really at with the filling a huge viod that Ed Reed has left.

 

With that said, if Stewart and Brooks turn out to be Busts what are the other options at free safety?

 

I really don't think we should start over and draft another safety.

 

I think we have to resources to initiate a trade.

 

Such as Eric Berry from the Chiefs. In my mind he is Ed Reed in his early career with his hits and coverage ability.

 

Would it be worth a shot trading for Eric Berry for a 1st rounder and Lardrius Webb?

 

We can make Jimmy our #1 Corner and we can sign Brandon Flowers to be our 2nd CB.

 

Edit

** Okay then let's take Webb of the deal than! Just a 1st rounder for Eric Berry Than? **

[jazz1988]

No....

 

BUT....Cleats, Brooks and Stewart are Clearly not the answer.

 

The answer is the same as it ever was.

 

Back to the Future!

 

I think it's too early to determine that Elam, Brooks, and Stewart aren't the answer,

[Poes Crows]

I think it's too early to determine that Elam, Brooks, and Stewart aren't the answer,

 

Determining early what the answer is ...well...that's the entire game.

If the personnel in your front office can't do it, or lost the ability to do it, you're in trouble.

[jazz1988]

Determining early what the answer is ...well...that's the entire game.

If the personnel in your front office can't do it, or lost the ability to do it, you're in trouble.

 

 

ummmm not really.. We all know you don't like Elam as a player and  that's perfectly fine but there is no logic in saying that him or others are not the answer when they haven't even played 3 years or even a down yet as a Ravens for those whom may be new comers.

 

I 

[SecretAgentMan]

No....

 

BUT....Cleats, Brooks and Stewart are Clearly not the answer.

 

The answer is the same as it ever was.

 

Back to the Future!

Ok, I know I shouldn't bother but I'm stuck in bed with a bad back today(I hurt it the other day) that canceled my golf game and I'm on whatever drugs that makes me angry but relieve my pain. So forgive me if I'm coming off as rude. 

 

1. Bad rookie season does not equal bad player.

See Jimmy Smith. Defensive backs take awhile to develop. All of them. You're not going to get an Ed Reed with every draft pick. Besides, the one game Elam did start at his natural position was the best of his career by a good mile(the Detroit Game). 

 

2. Brooks is a rookie

How the hell do you know if he's good if he hasn't seen the field yet? Seriously, not every player can be an Ed Reed in his prime. He was a third rounder. 

 

3. Ed Reed is done, how many times do I have to say that?

His career is over. Rex Ryan had to make him a situational player. Not a full time starter anymore. He can't tackle. He can't run. He's injury prone at this point.

 

And here's my question dear boy, if he's still that good, how in god's name is he still unemployed? Your answer? He's finished. His career is over and he should retire. 

 

4. Back to the Future is a terrible strategy.

 

Let's look at all the players we lost after the SB run besides Boldin(who was on a team that fed him the ball seeing as their best WR went down for most of the season. 

 

Cary Williams sucks

Paul Kruger sucks

Pollard was good but I don't miss him at all. In fact, we didn't this past season Digs was more than serviceable and Elam's game at SS showed promise. 

Bryant Mckinnie had a terrible season. 

Ellerbe was outperformed by Smith by a good mile and sucked. 

and Ed Reed is unemployed at the moment.

 

So by your logic, you want us to bring back a terrible corner, a situational pass rusher when we have two OLBs who average 10 sacks a season, a SS that's penalized and is horrible in coverage, a fatass LT who doesn't give a damn, and a saftey who can no longer tackler, and who's legs are dead. 

 

Well. That's a horrible plan. Our defense now is so much better than the defense who won the superbowl. Dayrl Smith at this point in his carrer is better than an old Ray Lewis. Dumervil may be seen as a "liability" in your eyes but he got 9.5 sacks. That is a good player right there. Monroe OFFICIALLY doesn't give up enough sacks(the statisticians know what they're doing), and is solid vs the run. Many see him as a top 10 OT and no matter how you spin it, HE WAS BETTER THAN MCKINNIE. Jimmy Smith is four times the CB Cary ever was. That's what this fan knows. 

Reuniting the band is a terrible idea. We've gotten better as a whole even if I disagree with many of these moves. We should be a playoff team regardless of what you think, and you should give Brooks and Elam at least 3 seasons before judging them. 

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[codizzle]

I was the -35. codizzle owes me a prize.

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Join us elitists in the mobile format

 

Yes, sir. I'll consider it.

[BMORE21]

Dam id love berry, but it aint happening

[jimjim5]

I'd rather move Brooks to CB and draft Drummond next year than trade for Eric Berry, who I feel would be like Matt Elam at FS.

Kurtis Drummond is The Real Deal.