Ray Rice Suspended 2 Games

[1/28/01]

from Rotoworld

The New York Post's Bart Hubbuch "keep(s) hearing" Ray Rice's suspension could span 4-6 games in connection with his offseason assault charge, or "maybe even more."

Hubbuch is hearing the discipline will be "significant." The NFL has received negative press for strict suspensions levied against pot smokers, while crimes viewed as more sinister like assaulting women get lesser discipline. Commissioner Roger Goodell could use Rice as an example to show the NFL will take hitting women more seriously. A 4-6 game suspension would swing the door wide open for Bernard Pierce, or Justin Forsett, or Lorenzo Taliaffero to run with the feature back job in new OC Gary Kubiak's running back-friendly offense.

You'd love this, but 2 games is what it'll be.

[display name]

Should be less than what Rapelesburger got that's for sure. He got like 4 games and reduced to 3 didnt he. So 2 should be about right

6 reduced to 4. And like fly said Roethlisberger was not a first time offender, and so that's why I think that Rice should not end up missing 4 or more games.

[757RavensFan]

Given the background of Rice and lack of any concrete evidence, hard to get more than four in my eyes

There are multiple reports that the NFL has the unreleased video footage of the incident inside the elevator.  

Rice "supposedly" struck her twice causing her to fall back and hit her head on the rail inside the elevator. 

If they do in fact have that video, don't be surprised if it's a 4-6 game suspension.  

[funky141]

You'd love this, but 2 games is what it'll be.

Not really, I was hoping for a bounce back year for Ray. I think it will be 6 games at first then to 4.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

If Ray gets a 6 game suspension I'm going to be irked.  How are you going to give him a suspension equal to Roethlisberger's suspension for raping a woman when he had had numerous past transgressions.

 

I'd be fine w/ 2 games.  Anything more than 3 would be extreme.

[1/28/01]

If Ray gets a 6 game suspension I'm going to be irked. How are you going to give him a suspension equal to Roethlisberger's suspension for raping a woman when he had had numerous past transgressions.

I'd be fine w/ 2 games. Anything more than 3 would be extreme.

Yeah, if he gets anything close to Ben, thats comple BS. Not condoning what Rice did, but Ben was accused of rape and more than once.

[ravensdfan]

I will be extremely ticked if it is more than 2 given the history of suspensions handed down. It is rarely over 2 games unless it is a case of a repeat offender. Given Rice's previous reputation within the community and even representing the NFL image, anything over 2 is just unfair.

 

However, whatever it is, we'll just have to deal with it.

[The Raven]

Guys... if Rice gets more than two, it has nothing to do with history. If Rice gets more than two it's going to be because Goodell is trying to set a NEW precedent. The NFL has a problem, and continually giving  pathetic two week suspensions (if that) isn't helping. Oh boohoo, Big Ben got six.... Oh well. A NEW precedent needs to be set and hopefully Goodell, Bisciotti, Ozzie, and Harbs all see that.

[codizzle]

Idc what he gets as long as pierce is healthy.. Ready to move on

[flynismo]

Yeah, if he gets anything close to Ben, thats comple BS. Not condoning what Rice did, but Ben was accused of rape and more than once.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'd be okay with a 6 game suspension. Yes, it would definitely be unfair to Rice when you look at what other people got....but after the way this offseason went with all the arrests, I hope these guys will be scared to pass gas without excusing themselves from this point on.

[Militant X 1]

I think he gets 2-4 games.

 

#Mili

[The Mom Gene]

 

from Rotoworld

The New York Post's Bart Hubbuch "keep(s) hearing" Ray Rice's suspension could span 4-6 games in connection with his offseason assault charge, or "maybe even more."

Hubbuch is hearing the discipline will be "significant." The NFL has received negative press for strict suspensions levied against pot smokers, while crimes viewed as more sinister like assaulting women get lesser discipline. Commissioner Roger Goodell could use Rice as an example to show the NFL will take hitting women more seriously. A 4-6 game suspension would swing the door wide open for Bernard Pierce, or Justin Forsett, or Lorenzo Taliaffero to run with the feature back job in new OC Gary Kubiak's running back-friendly offense.

 

This reporter is a NY reporter...  I don't put much credibility in his "guess".    Just another media man trying to create a buzz in the slow news time of the offseason.

[1/28/01]

2.5 games

[funky141]

There are multiple reports that the NFL has the unreleased video footage of the incident inside the elevator.  

Rice "supposedly" struck her twice causing her to fall back and hit her head on the rail inside the elevator. 

If they do in fact have that video, don't be surprised if it's a 4-6 game suspension.  

This is very disturbing if true.

[The Raven]

This reporter is a NY reporter...  I don't put much credibility in his "guess".    Just another media man trying to create a buzz in the slow news time of the offseason.

 

Would a reporter just make up information? He said he's hearing these things from sources. He isn't making it up. It's not a guess. 

 

Also, the NFL headquarters is in New York. This is the man who first reported Rice's visit with Goodell the other day.

 

So.... I'm putting a lot of credibility here. 

[PurpleCityLights]

I'm hoping that Rice faces additional consequences from the Ravens. It's all well and good that he gets suspended by the league, but this team needs to reset the standard and make someone an example. Who better than Rice? Although, if the team were to punish him I think we may have already heard something.

How long do you think he'll be suspended for, if at all? I think two weeks.

No......

[The Mom Gene]

Would a reporter just make up information? He said he's hearing these things from sources. He isn't making it up. It's not a guess. 

 

Also, the NFL headquarters is in New York. This is the man who first reported Rice's visit with Goodell the other day.

 

So.... I'm putting a lot of credibility here. 

I would only state that "first" doesn't always mean accurate....  The guy is probably camped outside the commissioner's office just waiting for any tidbit of information he can get on anybody that has anything to do with the NFL.....  Just sayin'.  This is the media.... 

[The Raven]

No......

 

What an intelligent and thought provoking reply. I'm amazed.

 

I would only state that "first" doesn't always mean accurate....  The guy is probably camped outside the commissioner's office just waiting for any tidbit of information he can get on anybody that has anything to do with the NFL.....  Just sayin'.  This is the media.... 

 

Maybe these comments just piss me off because I'm a media member myself, but he was first and he was accurate. He's doing his job. Is it not a journalist's job to get every tidbit he or she can and report it?

 

Here's a lesson for you: Learn to differentiate between the good and bad members of the media. Reporters are trustworthy. Analysts aren't always trustworthy. This dude is a reporter. Learn the difference. 

[The Mom Gene]

What an intelligent and thought provoking reply. I'm amazed.

 

 

Maybe these comments just piss me off because I'm a media member myself, but he was first and he was accurate. He's doing his job. Is it not a journalist's job to get every tidbit he or she can and report it?

 

Here's a lesson for you: Learn to differentiate between the good and bad members of the media. Reporters are trustworthy. Analysts aren't always trustworthy. This dude is a reporter. Learn the difference. 

I know and understand the difference....  trust me.

[BmoreBird22]

There are multiple reports that the NFL has the unreleased video footage of the incident inside the elevator.  

Rice "supposedly" struck her twice causing her to fall back and hit her head on the rail inside the elevator. 

If they do in fact have that video, don't be surprised if it's a 4-6 game suspension.

Supposedly. They could have been just saying that to get an admission from Rice. I honestly didn't realize the NFL had any jurisdiction to get that video evidence

[BmoreBird22]

What an intelligent and thought provoking reply. I'm amazed.

Maybe these comments just piss me off because I'm a media member myself, but he was first and he was accurate. He's doing his job. Is it not a journalist's job to get every tidbit he or she can and report it?

Here's a lesson for you: Learn to differentiate between the good and bad members of the media. Reporters are trustworthy. Analysts aren't always trustworthy. This dude is a reporter. Learn the difference.

Is this similar to the sources that PFT gets?

Plus, this is what he's hearing, apparently. I don't know how much stock you can put into it. Sure, he's probably reporting 100% truly that he's hearing people talk about a 4-6 game suspension, but how do we know it's not just outside analysts or lower level execs speculating and he's reporting their speculation? I'd like to see the source is all

[The Raven]

Is this similar to the sources that PFT gets?

Plus, this is what he's hearing, apparently. I don't know how much stock you can put into it. Sure, he's probably reporting 100% truly that he's hearing people talk about a 4-6 game suspension, but how do we know it's not just outside analysts or lower level execs speculating and he's reporting their speculation? I'd like to see the source is all

 

Yes, but my problem with PFT isn't the reporting. It's the "analysis."

 

EDIT: He's protecting the source's identity to save the source's job/reputation, in all likelihood. Common practice in journalism.

[BmoreBird22]

Yes, but my problem with PFT isn't the reporting. It's the "analysis."

 

EDIT: He's protecting the source's identity to save the source's job/reputation, in all likelihood. Common practice in journalism.

Oh, PFT actually admitted in one of their articles that their sources are usually crappy and not the best. 

 

I understand that he'd want to protect the person in question, but still, would be nice to know exactly who it is, you know?

[The Raven]

Oh, PFT actually admitted in one of their articles that their sources are usually crappy and not the best. 

 

I understand that he'd want to protect the person in question, but still, would be nice to know exactly who it is, you know?

 

I would like to know who, but I  trust that it is someone who has knowledge of the situation.

[BmoreBird22]

I would like to know who, but I  trust that it is someone who has knowledge of the situation.

Honestly, I think this is one of those situations where it's going to be a lot of speculation from any source because of how erratic these suspensions are.

[berad]

I would like to know who, but I  trust that it is someone who has knowledge of the situation.

 

Don't know if I can trust any anonymous source or anything without definite proof. Especially in these instances where you can just say 'uhh... significant... 4-6 games... maybe' and probably be right.

[rmw10]

One thing that I keep reading from those who are saying 4+ games is that the NFL wants to set a precedent with this suspension.  They've faced a lot of criticism for marijuana garnering larger suspensions that assaults and other physical crimes.  They want to start showing that they don't take this stuff lightly.

[T3hRaven]

One thing that I keep reading from those who are saying 4+ games is that the NFL wants to set a precedent with this suspension.  They've faced a lot of criticism for marijuana garnering larger suspensions that assaults and other physical crimes.  They want to start showing that they don't take this stuff lightly.

 

As well they should.  The video also gave a bigger black eye to the NFL IMO.

[The Raven]

Don't know if I can trust any anonymous source or anything without definite proof. Especially in these instances where you can just say 'uhh... significant... 4-6 games... maybe' and probably be right.

 

Considering that White House reporters from the prestigious New York Times and Washington Post (where the stakes are higher) cite anonymous sources on a routine basis, I think it's safe to trust it. Why would a reporter ask someone who doesn't know? Why would a reporter make something up? Reporters aren't as dumb as most think. 

 

One thing that I keep reading from those who are saying 4+ games is that the NFL wants to set a precedent with this suspension.  They've faced a lot of criticism for marijuana garnering larger suspensions that assaults and other physical crimes.  They want to start showing that they don't take this stuff lightly.

 

Bingo!

[Inqui]

Considering that White House reporters from the prestigious New York Times and Washington Post cite anonymous sources on a routine basis, I think it's safe to trust it. Why would a reporter ask someone who doesn't know? Why would a reporter make something up? Reporters aren't as dumb as most think. 

People distrusting the media has gotten to the point where they're not even smart about it: it's almost always unbridled cynicism and distrust. Sources remain anonymous because it could mean losing their job if their name gets out. I've even used a source who didn't want to be named because he was sketchy about being put on a Government blacklist. Name your source and risk losing them.

 

And like you say, a reporter's reputation is gold dust in this era. Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport are two who particularly value theirs. Look where that got them.