BmoreBird22

Next Quarterback to Get a Mega-Deal?

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So, after Kaepernick got his mega deal, we'll surely see more follow with this group of players. Who's the next to get a jaw dropping deal?

I'd guess Andrew Luck. He's done so much with so little. His rookie season, over 60% of his coaches or players were new, and I think mostly comprised of rookie NFL coaches and players. He worked with Lavon Brazil, TY Hilton, Dwayne Allen, Coby Fleener (all rookies) and an over the hill Reggie Wayne as his receivers. He had no running game or offensive line. He was the most hit and pressured quarterback by a very wide margin his rookie year. His defense his rookie year was making a transition that many of those players hadn't done before and Freeney and Mathis were in an adjustment period. Luck was going to have go out and score a lot to win the games, and he did.

Personally, I think he could be an all time great and possibly the first $30 million dollar quarterback with the way the salary cap is going.

By the way, I don't necessarily mean this year or next, but within the next two, three years

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Luck still has 2 years left on his rookie deal. He has played well in his first 2 seasons in the NFL, and if he improves on that I could see him having no problem getting a Kaepernick-type deal. I thought that Luck's 2013 season was actually slightly better than Kap's anyway.

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The next guys in line are Alex smith, can Newton, Andy dalton. It will be interesting to see what they get. I can tell you none of them want the kap deal. The 49ers got over on him pretty bad. It's way below value for franchise qb. That said it will be very interesting to see how these three players fall in line.

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Luck still has 2 years left on his rookie deal. He has played well in his first 2 seasons in the NFL, and if he improves on that I could see him having no problem getting a Kaepernick-type deal. I thought that Luck's 2013 season was actually slightly better than Kap's anyway.

I think the candidates are Newton, Luck, RGIII, and Wilson and I see Luck as the one getting the biggest contact

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Spotrac has Newton, Luck, RGKnee and Wilson becoming UFAs not during the next offseason, but the one after. Unless the extra year isn't exercised for Luck or RGMe, you'd back Cam or RW3 to get the next one.

 

I don't think we'll see another extension this offseason with the players probably being a bit sketchy after the Kap deal. Next offseason is anyone's guess, but you'd think the Seahawks keep their run of extending their guys going and try to get something done.

 

Biggest in four years' time, I wouldn't bet against Luck. Especially if his agent's smart enough to mail a bottle of bourbon to Irsay's office.

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Spotrac has Newton, Luck, RGKnee and Wilson becoming UFAs not during the next offseason, but the one after. Unless the extra year isn't exercised for Luck or RGMe, you'd back Cam or RW3 to get the next one.

 

I don't think we'll see another extension this offseason with the players probably being a bit sketchy after the Kap deal. Next offseason is anyone's guess, but you'd think the Seahawks keep their run of extending their guys going and try to get something done.

 

Biggest in four years' time, I wouldn't bet against Luck. Especially if his agent's smart enough to mail a bottle of bourbon to Irsay's office.

You are correct that they aren't free agents next year, and I went ahead and fixed it because I did mean within the next two, three years
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You are correct that they aren't free agents next year, and I went ahead and fixed it because I did mean within the next two, three years

Next year's free agency crop of QBs looks a bit dull, so an extension would probably be the source of the next big-time contract.

 

Otherwise, Cam Newton's the easy pick imo. Luck, Wilson and even Foles could join him soon after. RG3-13's dependent on staying healthy for the most part (which I could find a Subway reference to tack on after RG).

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I don't see Dalton, Newton or RGIII getting any big deals.  Dalton can get you to the playoffs, but don't expect anything out of him come post-season.  Newton, while's got the numbers and the wins, Carolina just won't have the money to do so (unless they start gutting the team around him).  RGIII, I'm sorry - but the guy, in my opinion, is lucky he can even still play after continuing to play with multiple knee sprains.

 

The only other two I can see are Luck & Wilson and they are both shoe ins, as far as my opinion goes. Wilson, very quietly, acquired a Super Bowl ring.. and Luck, in time, I'm sure he'll have more than his fair share of rings as well.

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RGIII, I'm sorry - but the guy, in my opinion, is lucky he can even still play after continuing to play with multiple knee sprains.

l.

No argument but we are talking about the redskins....

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No argument but we are talking about the redskins....

 

I can see your point, though.  I guess, either way, I wouldn't be surprised.  Nor would I be surprised if Washington doesn't start looking for their next franchise quarterback in the next couple of years.

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Caaaaaaam

 

 

whooooooaaaa Caaaaaaaaaaaam

He's had three good seasons so far in his career. I don't think he's worthy of a Kap deal yet, but if he makes significant improvements this season he could warrant that type of contract.

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He's had three good seasons so far in his career. I don't think he's worthy of a Kap deal yet, but if he makes significant improvements this season he could warrant that type of contract.

Is he honestly less deserving than Kaepernick at this point? I think not. But doesn't he have 2 years on his rookie contract?
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Is he honestly less deserving than Kaepernick at this point? I think not. But doesn't he have 2 years on his rookie contract?

I'll admit that it's close. Luck is a bit more turnover-prone than Kaepernick though, and that's really all that bothers me. And yes, he does still have 2 years left on his rookie contract, as I stated earlier. But if he plays his best football yet in 2014 it could be enough for an extension.

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He's had three good seasons so far in his career. I don't think he's worthy of a Kap deal yet, but if he makes significant improvements this season he could warrant that type of contract.

kaep hasn't even played 3 seasons worth of games. Edited by arnie_uk
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I'll admit that it's close. Luck is a bit more turnover-prone than Kaepernick though, and that's really all that bothers me. And yes, he does still have 2 years left on his rookie contract, as I stated earlier. But if he plays his best football yet in 2014 it could be enough for an extension.

Definitely would not say Luck is turnover prone. He's asked to do so much with not much. He was also in a way high risk offense that he was not in ever before. He did cut his interceptions in half this past year and looked much more comfortable

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I meant Newton.

I meant, you said Newton had only had three good years and thus isn't worthy of a deal like kaep , but kaep isnt even worth the deal yeat because he hasn't even played 3 years worth of games, let alone three good years.
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@Arnie. Kaep hasn't even played 2 full years worth of games.

 

Does a megacontract mean 15 mil a year say a 6 yr 80 mil contract or does it have to average 20 mil a year. I'm gonna say Dalton and Alex Smith will get between 15-18 mil a year depending on whether they get franchized or not and play out the year under their original pay. Franchize tag more money. It puts the ball in the players court, Newton's 5th year option has already been picked up but I'm sure they're gonna have to alleviate some of their cap issues that year and he'll get Flacco money imo with a low salary hit for the 1st year. Luck is gonna make the big bucks cuz he's far away the best out of all the candidates and I'm predicting an 8 yr 200mil contract. Oooooh baby!!

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@Arnie. Kaep hasn't even played 2 full years worth of games.

 

Does a megacontract mean 15 mil a year say a 6 yr 80 mil contract or does it have to average 20 mil a year. I'm gonna say Dalton and Alex Smith will get between 15-18 mil a year depending on whether they get franchized or not and play out the year under their original pay. Franchize tag more money. It puts the ball in the players court, Newton's 5th year option has already been picked up but I'm sure they're gonna have to alleviate some of their cap issues that year and he'll get Flacco money imo with a low salary hit for the 1st year. Luck is gonna make the big bucks cuz he's far away the best out of all the candidates and I'm predicting an 8 yr 200mil contract. Oooooh baby!!

 

I think that was arnie's point since someone brought up Newton not having played enough to get kaep money even though kaep has played in even fewer games. 

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@Arnie. Kaep hasn't even played 2 full years worth of games.

 

Does a megacontract mean 15 mil a year say a 6 yr 80 mil contract or does it have to average 20 mil a year. I'm gonna say Dalton and Alex Smith will get between 15-18 mil a year depending on whether they get franchized or not and play out the year under their original pay. Franchize tag more money. It puts the ball in the players court, Newton's 5th year option has already been picked up but I'm sure they're gonna have to alleviate some of their cap issues that year and he'll get Flacco money imo with a low salary hit for the 1st year. Luck is gonna make the big bucks cuz he's far away the best out of all the candidates and I'm predicting an 8 yr 200mil contract. Oooooh baby!!

I'm talking averaging at least $20 million
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Since everyone else is, I am going to take a stab at the QBs who will get paid $20 mil plus in the next wave of contracts.

 

Newton

Wilson

Luck

 

jury still out on...

 

RGIII(if healthy then add him)

 

I might edit in any I forget, if you can convince me on someone else I will make sure it is known

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I meant, you said Newton had only had three good years and thus isn't worthy of a deal like kaep , but kaep isnt even worth the deal yeat because he hasn't even played 3 years worth of games, let alone three good years.

That's what I thought you meant on the other page, which is why I think Newton more than qualifies for a huge deal. Bigger sample size and pretty consistent. Better overall?   Maybe. I have more confidence in Newton being a starting QB in 5 years.
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@Arnie. Kaep hasn't even played 2 full years worth of games.

Does a megacontract mean 15 mil a year say a 6 yr 80 mil contract or does it have to average 20 mil a year. I'm gonna say Dalton and Alex Smith will get between 15-18 mil a year depending on whether they get franchized or not and play out the year under their original pay. Franchize tag more money. It puts the ball in the players court, Newton's 5th year option has already been picked up but I'm sure they're gonna have to alleviate some of their cap issues that year and he'll get Flacco money imo with a low salary hit for the 1st year. Luck is gonna make the big bucks cuz he's far away the best out of all the candidates and I'm predicting an 8 yr 200mil contract. Oooooh baby!!

I was including playoffs. 43 games or something hes played
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That's what I thought you meant on the other page, which is why I think Newton more than qualifies for a huge deal. Bigger sample size and pretty consistent. Better overall? Maybe. I have more confidence in Newton being a starting QB in 5 years.

exactly what I meant
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I meant, you said Newton had only had three good years and thus isn't worthy of a deal like kaep , but kaep isnt even worth the deal yeat because he hasn't even played 3 years worth of games, let alone three good years.

Kap played better than Newton last year.

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