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The top 100 players on NFLN

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Flacco 58 Yanda 55.Haloti Ngata 45..

I hate hate hate Dave Dameshek, watching top 100 after show completely ridicules no respect for Flacco but then again what can you expect from a steelers fan. What are your thoughts on it

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Blah... Those things are annoying to me

Too many variables and I hate comparing players as a group

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Joe had a fair spot. He had a new left tackle, backup left guard, worst center in the league, injured right guard, a terrible right tackle, a first time offensive coordinator, a revolving door running game, an UDFA as his number two receiver, and Ed Dickson and Dallas Clark as his tight ends.

Glad I could get that out. Dameshek also needs to realize that Flacco did not take up a lot of money. $6.8 million was lower than the $8+ million for the final year of his rookie contract, so....

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Joe had a fair spot. He had a new left tackle, backup left guard, worst center in the league, injured right guard, a terrible right tackle, a first time offensive coordinator, a revolving door running game, an UDFA as his number two receiver, and Ed Dickson and Dallas Clark as his tight ends.

Glad I could get that out. Dameshek also needs to realize that Flacco did not take up a lot of money. $6.8 million was lower than the $8+ million for the final year of his rookie contract, so....

Thats what really gets me is that people don't understand his contract.  Truthfully i thought he was going to be off the list entirely and i am happy to see Yanda back on it.  I know it doesn't matter because hey flacco wins and thats what matters but i do like hearing their names for something good

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Thats what really gets me is that people don't understand his contract.  Truthfully i thought he was going to be off the list entirely and i am happy to see Yanda back on it.  I know it doesn't matter because hey flacco wins and thats what matters but i do like hearing their names for something good

Very happy to have Yanda on there because he had been snubbed for two or three years now

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Could really care less about these ranking but i will say i think 58 is a fair spot for Joe. He didn't play well enough and nothing around him played well either. I didn't see the show or post show so i don't know what was said but I'd imagine that the players sensed that despite not having a solid season, Flacco actually made the best of his bad situation.

If I'm not mistaken Flacco is ranked higher then Romo, Foles and Kaep so maybe the perception of Flacco is changing around the league a bit.

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The whole idea is kinda stupid. After the SB win, we had the most player on the list. Now, a year later, very few of those guys make it?!? What kinda crap is that? It's all about whoever they want to build up.

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Wow I'm honestly astonished to see Flacco at 58 with how the media hates on him from time to time; not to mention how bad last season was. Hopefully he'll get the help he needs from the O-line and receivers this season. 

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Wow I'm honestly astonished to see Flacco at 58 with how the media hates on him from time to time; not to mention how bad last season was. Hopefully he'll get the help he needs from the O-line and receivers this season. 

Well it's based on his peers, not the media. I'm surprised to see him on the list at all. It makes him the 10th ranked QB and I agree. The media is hating of course.

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The whole idea is kinda stupid. After the SB win, we had the most player on the list. Now, a year later, very few of those guys make it?!? What kinda crap is that? It's all about whoever they want to build up.

That's cause we went 8-8 and were very lucky to go 8-8 honestly. If you don't have a good season, you probably wont have many players on that list. That's why most Ravens were on the from the superbowl (obviously)

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Just saw the video of the Flacco discussion after the countdown stuff, and that top 100 really shouldn't be taken at face value.

The fact that there were four interpretations of what the list was supposed to be said more than enough for me. But then they couldn't agree on how important a factor the supporting cast was. One guy says Kaepernick almost gets to the Superb Owl so he deserves the spot, and another guy says Flacco lost his supporting cast so he deserves the higher consideration, while yet another guy says everyone left because Flacco got paid (untrue, but we'll roll with it) so his expectations should be higher.

Can you see how convoluted that discussion's getting already? It's worse than the "elite QB" discussion because at least with that one there were some vaguely agreeable tiers.

And when Dave Dameshek said Flacco's cap hit was $20 million.....

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This list shouldn't be taken seriously there is no clear criteria. They don't rate players on the single season they factor in past history and accomplishments.

 

Like Last year no way MJD should have made the list.

 

I'm a big Flacco fan but I wouldn't have put him that high after last year, despite the line issues and no running game.

 

 

The Top 100 of 2013 will always be the best because we won the Super Bowl that year so we got a bunch of Ravens on the list.

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Just saw the video of the Flacco discussion after the countdown stuff, and that top 100 really shouldn't be taken at face value.

The fact that there were four interpretations of what the list was supposed to be said more than enough for me. But then they couldn't agree on how important a factor the supporting cast was. One guy says Kaepernick almost gets to the Superb Owl so he deserves the spot, and another guy says Flacco lost his supporting cast so he deserves the higher consideration, while yet another guy says everyone left because Flacco got paid (untrue, but we'll roll with it) so his expectations should be higher.

Can you see how convoluted that discussion's getting already? It's worse than the "elite QB" discussion because at least with that one there were some vaguely agreeable tiers.

And when Dave Dameshek said Flacco's cap hit was $20 million.....

 

Yeah... to this point... They say Flacco should be held to a higher standard because he got paid that "$20 million" and the team "couldn't afford to pay his go-to guy," and then in the same breath say that Kaep should be cut some slack because all his guys were injured and he had no supporting cast.  Funny how there is no mention of Kaepernick getting Flacco's weapon in Boldin.  lol.. That whole exchange that was posted in the LFW was garbage.  Go NFL Network.  :242736:

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Yeah... to this point... They say Flacco should be held to a higher standard because he got paid that "$20 million" and the team "couldn't afford to pay his go-to guy," and then in the same breath say that Kaep should be cut some slack because all his guys were injured and he had no supporting cast. Funny how there is no mention of Kaepernick getting Flacco's weapon in Boldin. lol.. That whole exchange that was posted in the LFW was garbage. Go NFL Network. :242736:

Plus ironically enough, Flaccos supporting cast that inflated his rank last year was Kaeps cast that wasnt good enough. Only Kaep had Vernon Davis, who Dameshek said last year is much better than Pitta and a better Oline and run game.
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Plus ironically enough, Flaccos supporting cast that inflated his rank last year was Kaeps cast that wasnt good enough. Only Kaep had Vernon Davis, who Dameshek said last year is much better than Pitta and a better Oline and run game.

So he says Kap had a better TE, OL and run game...what is he complaining about then? Hate that guy

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So he says Kap had a better TE, OL and run game...what is he complaining about then? Hate that guy

According to that obnoxious chap, he didn't even belong in the top 100! I was actually surprised Silver was actually defending Flacco... if only Flacco did the unthinkable, got consistent, posted a good completion percentage this year, and shut these guys up once and for all. But again, who are we kidding? No matter what Flacco does, his reputation has been so tarnished by these morons, it will be hard to regain...
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According to that obnoxious chap, he didn't even belong in the top 100! I was actually surprised Silver was actually defending Flacco... if only Flacco did the unthinkable, got consistent, posted a good completion percentage this year, and shut these guys up once and for all. But again, who are we kidding? No matter what Flacco does, his reputation has been so tarnished by these morons, it will be hard to regain...

Yeah, he'll never win with these guys. The weird thing is they had the perfect opportunity to bury him after the season he just had, but instead they took up for him and blamed all the people around him instead. Now they go back to what they were saying before? Whatevs

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Yeah... to this point... They say Flacco should be held to a higher standard because he got paid that "$20 million" and the team "couldn't afford to pay his go-to guy," and then in the same breath say that Kaep should be cut some slack because all his guys were injured and he had no supporting cast.  Funny how there is no mention of Kaepernick getting Flacco's weapon in Boldin.  lol.. That whole exchange that was posted in the LFW was garbage.  Go NFL Network.  :242736:

Or the mention that his entire team was healthy for the playoffs, correct?

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Joe had a fair spot. He had a new left tackle, backup left guard, worst center in the league, injured right guard, a terrible right tackle, a first time offensive coordinator, a revolving door running game, an UDFA as his number two receiver, and Ed Dickson and Dallas Clark as his tight ends.

Glad I could get that out. Dameshek also needs to realize that Flacco did not take up a lot of money. $6.8 million was lower than the $8+ million for the final year of his rookie contract, so....

Look at Romo/Cutler/Kaep/Ryan's deals, they got more money guaranteed and none of them have had the success of Joe.

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Yeah, he'll never win with these guys. The weird thing is they had the perfect opportunity to bury him after the season he just had, but instead they took up for him and blamed all the people around him instead. Now they go back to what they were saying before? Whatevs

I hear you. Very frustrating to watch as a Ravens fan I must say. I am a huge critic of Flacco on occasion, but cannot stand it when somebody outside the family does it!
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Or the mention that his entire team was healthy for the playoffs, correct?

The idea of Kaep not having a good supporting cast is just laughable. 49ers are a top 3 talented team in the league, easily. Maybe even top 2.

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I hear you. Very frustrating to watch as a Ravens fan I must say. I am a huge critic of Flacco on occasion, but cannot stand it when somebody outside the family does it!

Because when we do it we usually know what we're talking about. When outsiders do it they talk about "20 MILLION CAP HIT!!!!111!1!"

 

Flacco isn't even top 5 in guaranteed money, lol.

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I am a huge critic of Flacco on occasion, but cannot stand it when somebody outside the family does it!

I relate to that big time...I get a good laugh out of sparring with the 'Flacco Haters' here. But I go Hulk Smash when some bozo fan of an NFC team talks crap about him...I love that unspoken double standard lol. I won't mention names, but I saw someone from this forum who is outspoken in their disdain of Flacco fighting tooth and nail defending Flacco on another site. Made me smile :D

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Once was interesting, twice was more than enough; mindless drivel so that the NFL network has something to talk about in the offseason.

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Joe had a fair spot. He had a new left tackle, backup left guard, worst center in the league, injured right guard, a terrible right tackle, a first time offensive coordinator, a revolving door running game, an UDFA as his number two receiver, and Ed Dickson and Dallas Clark as his tight ends.

Glad I could get that out. Dameshek also needs to realize that Flacco did not take up a lot of money. $6.8 million was lower than the $8+ million for the final year of his rookie contract, so....

Dameshack is just another Skip Bayless who thinks it's cool to ridicule Flacco because he is a Steelers fan. He's an idiot. Anytime Flacco is mentioned you will see the idiot get all huffy about it like clock work.

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Because when we do it we usually know what we're talking about. When outsiders do it they talk about "20 MILLION CAP HIT!!!!111!1!"

 

Flacco isn't even top 5 in guaranteed money, lol.

You can't rail on flacco anymore now than Kaep, Romo, Ryan, and Cutler all are making more money then him.

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Once was interesting, twice was more than enough; mindless drivel so that the NFL network has something to talk about in the offseason.

 

They might as well be selling sham wows and oxi clean 24/7 this time of year... :)

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