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most surprising draft pick in ravens history?

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Who in your opinion was the most surprising pick on any draft day in our history?

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Ogden, Suggs, and Flacco should be high on the list. In 1996 most people predicted that we would take Lawrence Philips, and thankfully we passed on him. We took Suggs at #10 overall in 2003. He wasn't expected to still be available than, but a poor time in the 40 yard dash caused him to fall to us.

And in 2008 I think it seemed likely that we would take Matt Ryan until the Falcons scooped him up.

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Michael oher was shocking to me. that was about 2 years after I started following the draft so I don't know much about our earlier days and the billick era of drafting, but I was so sure that the biggest thing we wanted was a WR, and I thought with hakeem nicks still on the board that he was easily the BPA, and I would say that turned out to be true, and I would also think it was still a bigger need than RT.

I understand they may have had bigger plans for oher than being a journeyman swing tackle from left to right, and maybe he didn't live up to what he looked like he was capable of, but I still maintain that nicks would've been a better pick, injuries and all.

I almost spit my drink out when goodell opened that envelope and said "Michael oher, offensive tackle, Mississippi"

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Ray Lewis, without him we would have no Rings....

This thread is about the most surprising draft picks ever, not necessarily the best.

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I would agree with Ogden because the first pick in your franchise history most people would want the sexy pick of a RB like Phillips who was a beast at Nebraska even with his off the field problems. If I remember correctly I believe Modell wanted Phillips but Ozzie stuck to his guns and took Ogden. Not to bad Ozzie's first 2 picks are hall of famers not to bad. Suggs would be up there to we were split between him and Byron Leftwich. Great call Ozzie

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In retrospect it was Ogden. But to put another name out there I'll say Webb. Small school guy in the 2nd round, definitely remember him having a lot of doubters when that pick came in.

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What kind of question is that? Can you be just A LITTLE specific? Do you mean like guys who turned out to be better than we expected? Worse than expected? "Surprise" as in nobody expected us to draft them? Nobody expected them to fall to us? At least add something to your own thread or clarify what you're trying to say instead of dropping a line and to just disappear.

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In retrospect it was Ogden. But to put another name out there I'll say Webb. Small school guy in the 2nd round, definitely remember him having a lot of doubters when that pick came in.

Webb was a 3rd round pick but ur point is still true
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What kind of question is that? Can you be just A LITTLE specific? Do you mean like guys who turned out to be better than we expected? Worse than expected? "Surprise" as in nobody expected us to draft them? Nobody expected them to fall to us? At least add something to your own thread or clarify what you're trying to say instead of dropping a line and to just disappear.

Answer it however you want.. Open ended topic leaves room for greater range of conversation
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What kind of question is that? Can you be just A LITTLE specific? Do you mean like guys who turned out to be better than we expected? Worse than expected? "Surprise" as in nobody expected us to draft them? Nobody expected them to fall to us? At least add something to your own thread or clarify what you're trying to say instead of dropping a line and to just disappear.

"Who in your opinion was the most surprising pick on any draft day in our history?" 

That sounds pretty clear to me. The rest is up for interpretation.       

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Ray Lewis surprised me because he was considered undersized.

More recently, Ed Dickson. I had a full-blown meltdown when we took him instead of Pitta. I was sure that meant no Pitta for us.

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I'll say Heap was kinda unexpected. Yeah, the Ravens did need a young tight end with Sharp getting older, but I didn't expect them to take one in the first round. Figured they would take a developmental guy a little later in the draft. Heap got picked over guys like Brees, Vanden Bosch, and Chad Johnson. Can't complain though, he was one of the best TEs the Ravens have ever had.

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I'd say that most surprising regarding what he brought to the team was Jarret Johnson.  I was very young at the time and didn't really scout or anything, but I did watch some college football and at least knew who he was.  I knew he played DL and that was pretty much it.  In retrospect, the fact that we were able to convert a DT into an OLB that is one of the most underrated players in our history is pretty incredible.  I'm not surprised by the pick as it is the impact he had considering the position change.

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The trade up for Boller was a shocker to me... And disappointing. Thanks Brian....

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Am I allowed to say CJ Mosley? There were a few guys I expected us to go with, but Mosley really wasn't one of them considering Daryl's contract and Arthur Brown waiting in the wings.

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Gino Reid. I knew both of these guys were bums the moment we picked them.

I wouldn't give up on them yet, especially Gradkowski. Last season was only the 2nd of his career and his first as a starter. I know it was rocky but he could improve on that.

Gino probably won't start many games this year with the addition of Zuttah, but he could end up being a solid reserve.

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I am a lot more surprised at the players we DIDN'T draft. First one that comes to mind was taking Kindle over Carlos Dunlap. I thought Kindle was a premier prospect, but felt Dunlap was even better AND filled a big need for us.

Taking T Cody over, well, practically anyone on the board. An absolute terrible decision to draft a two down DT that high, especially when he came with all the question marks Cody did. Not surprisingly, he was even worse than I expected him to be.

Taking Dickson and Pitta back to back was a surprise. Hated the Dickson pick, and was confused why we took him when Pitta was still on the board...then we took Pitta, and the entire world was wondering what the heck we were doing lol.

A ton of others come to mind, but will leave it at that.

Most surprising in the sense that they outplayed expectations....either Jarrett Johnson, Kelly Gregg or Adalius Thomas.

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Michael oher was shocking to me. that was about 2 years after I started following the draft so I don't know much about our earlier days and the billick era of drafting, but I was so sure that the biggest thing we wanted was a WR, and I thought with hakeem nicks still on the board that he was easily the BPA, and I would say that turned out to be true, and I would also think it was still a bigger need than RT.

I understand they may have had bigger plans for oher than being a journeyman swing tackle from left to right, and maybe he didn't live up to what he looked like he was capable of, but I still maintain that nicks would've been a better pick, injuries and all.

I almost spit my drink out when goodell opened that envelope and said "Michael oher, offensive tackle, Mississippi"

That one still hurts. I was in love with Nicks, I thought he was the next Anquan Boldin. Couple that with the fact I hated Oher as a prospect and thought he was a bust unless he moved to OG, and yeah...still mad

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I am a lot more surprised at the players we DIDN'T draft. First one that comes to mind was taking Kindle over Carlos Dunlap. I thought Kindle was a premier prospect, but felt Dunlap was even better AND filled a big need for us.

Taking T Cody over, well, practically anyone on the board. An absolute terrible decision to draft a two down DT that high, especially when he came with all the question marks Cody did. Not surprisingly, he was even worse than I expected him to be.

Taking Dickson and Pitta back to back was a surprise. Hated the Dickson pick, and was confused why we took him when Pitta was still on the board...then we took Pitta, and the entire world was wondering what the heck we were doing lol.

A ton of others come to mind, but will leave it at that.

Most surprising in the sense that they outplayed expectations....either Jarrett Johnson, Kelly Gregg or Adalius Thomas.

Imagine if the Ravens drafted T.O. in 96 instead of CB Deron Jenkins. We could've undoubtably had the greatest class ever.

In hindsight, the worse pick for me that we didn't make has to be taking Mark Clayton over Aaron Rodgers in 2005.

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That one still hurts. I was in love with Nicks, I thought he was the next Anquan Boldin. Couple that with the fact I hated Oher as a prospect and thought he was a bust unless he moved to OG, and yeah...still mad

and look at how it panned out.. that pick was an exact science, not an art. we simply made a horrible pick and all of his issues from the draft, have plagued him as a pro and was the difference between him being a first round player and a career journeyman.

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Imagine if the Ravens drafted T.O. in 96 instead of CB Deron Jenkins. We could've undoubtably had the greatest class ever.

In hindsight, the worse pick for me that we didn't make has to be taking Mark Clayton over Aaron Rodgers in 2005.

We managed to "avoid" many great QBs, before we got Joe. Ozzie might have drafted JO, Ray Ray and Reeeeeed, but drafting Flacco is probably the one important pick of Newsome's carreer as a GM. After all, how can you claim you're a great evaluator of talent, if you can't find a franchise QB? 

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Mentioned already but terrence Cody... Seemed like a complete homer pick and still does

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We managed to "avoid" many great QBs, before we got Joe. Ozzie might have drafted JO, Ray Ray and Reeeeeed, but drafting Flacco is probably the one important pick of Newsome's carreer as a GM. After all, how can you claim you're a great evaluator of talent, if you can't find a franchise QB? 

The only response I have about that one is that Billick ALWAYS loved Boller.  He was his boy... and ultimately cost Billick his job.  He also liked Grbac. I put that on Brian Billick.

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Mentioned already but terrence Cody... Seemed like a complete homer pick and still does

 

100% agree with that .... It almost makes me want to cry when I look at the players taken after 'Mount Cody'. 

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