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 As for Taylor, I picked him primarily because was my favourite player; talent-wise, it's not like he's out of place on this team though. I've never seen a safety with his size and athleticism. With that front seven and surrounding secondary players, all he would have to be is a hit-seeking missile. He took his game to another level in '07 and I have no doubt he would become a perennial All-Pro had he not been killed.  

There is also a very solid chance that Taylor would have gotten arrested again and in turn suspended or released.

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QB

1 Johnny Unitas

2 Peyton Manning

3 Steve Young

RB

4 Eric Dickerson

5 Barry Sanders

6 LaDainian Tomlinson

FB

7 Jim Brown

OL

8 Jim Otto

9 Mike Webster

10 Gene Upshaw

11 Larry Allen

12 John Hannah

13 Jonathan Ogden

14 Anthony Muñoz

15 Walter Jones

16 Logan Mankins

17 Bruce Matthews

WR

18 Jerry Rice

19 Don Hutson

20 Terrell Owens

21 Michael Irvin

22 Marvin Harrison

23 Randy Moss

TE

24 John Mackey

25 Kellen Winslow Sr.

DL

26 Reggie White

27 Deacon Jones

28 Alan Page

29 Joe Greene

30 Merlin Olsen

31 Michael Strahan

32 Gino Marchetti

MLB (4-3)

33 Ray Lewis

34 Dick Butkus

OLB

35 Lawrence Taylor

36 DeMarcus Ware

37 Jack Ham

38 Derrick Brooks

CB

39 Deion Sanders

40 Mel Blount

41 Ty Law

42 Rod Woodson

43 Dick Lane

44 Charles Woodson

S

45 Troy Polamalu

46 Brian Dawkins

47 Darren Sharper

48 Ed Reed

50 Ronnie Lott

Kicker

51 Adam Vinatieri

Punter

52 Ray Guy

WR/Returner

53 Devin Hester

[Ed_Reed20]

There is also a very solid chance that Taylor would have gotten arrested again and in turn suspended or released.

 

All his closest team-mates talked about how he was a changed man after his daughter was born. Even media members commented on it.

 

But your point is trivial any way. We were asked to make a team, not a franchise with potential long-term ramifications. 

[Mt. Crushmore]

All his closest team-mates talked about how he was a changed man after his daughter was born. Even media members commented on it.

 

But your point is trivial any way. We were asked to make a team, not a franchise with potential long-term ramifications. 

 

If he was able to finish out his career, I definitely believe he would have become one of the all-time greats.

[ravensdan]

Randy moss has no business in this discussion. And neither does Owens. Those two stick out like a sore thumb on these lists. Honestly. Just from their era I'd rather have Hines ward who not only gave 100% effort never imploded any teams and was the best blocking wr of all time.

[52520Andrew]

Randy moss has no business in this discussion. And neither does Owens. Those two stick out like a sore thumb on these lists. Honestly. Just from their era I'd rather have Hines ward who not only gave 100% effort never imploded any teams and was the best blocking wr of all time.

 

I wouldn't take Hines Ward on here just because I couldn't stand the guy lol

[ravensdan]

I wouldn't take Hines Ward on here just because I couldn't stand the guy lol

I would have loved him as a raven. My main point is moss and Owens have no business in this conversation. Maybe Chris carter.

[52520Andrew]

I would have loved him as a raven. My main point is moss and Owens have no business in this conversation. Maybe Chris carter.

 

I liked Carter although I liked the guy I picked in Hutson, the guy dominated the NFL when he played. Helped revolutionize the WR position

[BmoreBird22]

Randy moss has no business in this discussion. And neither does Owens. Those two stick out like a sore thumb on these lists. Honestly. Just from their era I'd rather have Hines ward who not only gave 100% effort never imploded any teams and was the best blocking wr of all time.

Oh yeah, guys who are top two and three on receiving yards and touchdowns in four to five less years than Jerry Rice and top 10 in receptions don't belong on here. I'm sorry, but seriously? I realize that both were head cases, but they were some of the best and most talented players to ever play. But seriously, you'd mention Cris Carter? He was cut for being a nut job and doing massive amounts of highly illegal drugs. I think you are in the small, small minority that would not consider Owens and Moss top five receivers ever. 

 

Would not put Hines Ward in the top 10 ever. Not even close.

[Guest Omerta]

QB: Dan Marino

RB: Adrian Peterson

FB: Lorenzo Neal

WR: Jerry Rice

WR: Calvin Johnson

TE: Tony Gonzalez

LT: Jonathan Ogden

LG: John Hannah

C: Jim Otto

RG: Bruce Matthews

RT: Walter Jones

 

DE: Reggie White

DT: "Mean" Joe Greene

DE: "Demon" Deacon Jones ( I love his hatred for QB's, they are even bigger wusses now ie. Tome Brady)

OLB: Lawerence Taylor

ILB: Ray Lewis

ILB: Patrick Willis

OLB: Derrick Thomas

CB: Deion Sanders

CB: Champ Bailey

SS: Ronnie Lott

FS: Sean Taylor

 

K: Morten Anderson

P: Ray guy

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QB: Dan Marino

RB: Adrian Peterson

FB: Lorenzo Neal

WR: Jerry Rice

WR: Calvin Johnson

TE: Tony Gonzalez

LT: Jonathan Ogden

LG: John Hannah

C: Jim Otto

RG: Bruce Matthews

RT: Walter Jones

 

DE: Reggie White

DT: "Mean" Joe Greene

DE: "Demon" Deacon Jones ( I love his hatred for QB's, they are even bigger wusses now ie. Tome Brady)

OLB: Lawerence Taylor

ILB: Ray Lewis

ILB: Patrick Willis

OLB: Derrick Thomas

CB: Deion Sanders

CB: Champ Bailey

SS: Ronnie Lott

FS: Sean Taylor

 

K: Morten Anderson

P: Ray guy

Why would you chose Sean Taylor over Ed Reed?

[Guest Omerta]

Why would you chose Sean Taylor over Ed Reed?

 

I think had he been allowed to reach the pinnacle of his career I would be asking you why you take Reed over Taylor is why. That man had an epiphany once he started living for a purpose greater than lust and youthful decadence. His daughter made him the man he was supposed to be from jump. Given his natural ability which he had more of than Reed imo, given the experience and the renewed vigor for his craft and life he would have applied himself and would have been one of the all time greats.

 

How many times have you seen Reed get hurdled because he was allergic to contact ? Sean Taylor was great in coverage and was voted the hardest hitter in football. I dont think it a stretch at all to say of the two given the same longevity Sean would have been greater at his pinnacle and in 2007 was still imo the best safety in football. 

[Gordo52]

Randy moss has no business in this discussion. And neither does Owens. Those two stick out like a sore thumb on these lists. Honestly. Just from their era I'd rather have Hines ward who not only gave 100% effort never imploded any teams and was the best blocking wr of all time.

Sorry but that's ridiculous. Ward was great in his own right but T.O. & Moss were on completely different levels.

[NFLfan123]

QB: Dan Marino

QB: Joe Montana

HB: Walter Payton

HB: Jim Brown

FB: Bronco Nagurski (Beast)

WR: Jerry Rice

WR: Don Hutson

WR: Randy Moss

TE: Kellen Winslow Sr

TE: Tony Gonzales

T-Anthony Munoz

G-Gene Upshaw

C-Jim Otto

G-Bruce Matthews

T-Jonathan Ogden

DE: Reggie White

DT: Mean Joe Greene

DT: Alan Page

DE: Deacon Jones

OLB: Lawrence Taylor

OLB: Derrick Thomas

MLB: Dick Butkus

MLB: Ray Lewis

CB: Deion Sanders

CB: Night Train Lane

CB: Willie Brown

FS: Ed Reed

SS: Ronnie Lott

K: George Blanda

P: Ray Guy

ST: Steve Tasker (Beast)

RS: Devin Hester

[BmoreBird22]

I think had he been allowed to reach the pinnacle of his career I would be asking you why you take Reed over Taylor is why. That man had an epiphany once he started living for a purpose greater than lust and youthful decadence. His daughter made him the man he was supposed to be from jump. Given his natural ability which he had more of than Reed imo, given the experience and the renewed vigor for his craft and life he would have applied himself and would have been one of the all time greats.

 

How many times have you seen Reed get hurdled because he was allergic to contact ? Sean Taylor was great in coverage and was voted the hardest hitter in football. I dont think it a stretch at all to say of the two given the same longevity Sean would have been greater at his pinnacle and in 2007 was still imo the best safety in football. 

You're talking a lot of what ifs and a lot of hypotheticals. IF Randy Moss had applied himself more, he could have been the best receiver in the game, in my opinion. However, he didn't and he'll just go down as a top three ever. IF Barry Sanders had played longer, I think he'd be unanimously the best running back ever. 

 

Reed got shoddy with his tackling toward the end of his career. Early on, he knew how to tackle and could lay a hit down, but all those neck injuries and shoulder injuries took their tole and Reed didn't know when to hang it up. As a result, he became a lot less physical. 

 

We don't know what he would have become had he been allowed to play for longer. Going off what we have, he's not considered one of the greatest safeties ever, by most. 

[ravensdan]

Oh yeah, guys who are top two and three on receiving yards and touchdowns in four to five less years than Jerry Rice and top 10 in receptions don't belong on here. I'm sorry, but seriously? I realize that both were head cases, but they were some of the best and most talented players to ever play. But seriously, you'd mention Cris Carter? He was cut for being a nut job and doing massive amounts of highly illegal drugs. I think you are in the small, small minority that would not consider Owens and Moss top five receivers ever.

Would not put Hines Ward in the top 10 ever. Not even close.

I'm not sure who would get the nod outside of rice honestly. But moss had a few strong seasons. But how many poor seasons did he have in there? Too many to be considered on this list. It's not just the point of him being a head case. How many plays, games, seasons, teams did he quit on? Can you say that about any other players mentioned?

[ravensdan]

Honestly I might say Calvin Johnson. That is hard to predict right now as he has to keep going for a longer period.

[52520Andrew]

Honestly I might say Calvin Johnson. That is hard to predict right now as he has to keep going for a longer period.

 

Calvin certainly has the potential to get there, he is well on his way. Just has to keep dominating a bit longer

[BmoreBird22]

I'm not sure who would get the nod outside of rice honestly. But moss had a few strong seasons. But how many poor seasons did he have in there? Too many to be considered on this list. It's not just the point of him being a head case. How many plays, games, seasons, teams did he quit on? Can you say that about any other players mentioned?

A few? A FEW? Eight seasons of at least 1200 yards, nine of at least 10 touchdowns, and seven in which he combined for at least 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns. He led the league in touchdowns five times and set an NFL record with 23 touchdown passes. He essentially made Tom Brady that season, a quarterback who wasn't truly special until 2007. This is not even mentioning the absurd 17 touchdowns as a rookie, which led the NFL.

 

How many bad seasons did he have? Not including his gimmicky season with the 49ers, three, two of which were marred by injuries and one in which he was passed around from team to team.

 

How many teams did he quit on? The Titans and Vikings, I'd say. 

 

Cris Carter was a complete nut job in Phili and got himself kicked out of Phili because he had a falling out with Buddy Ryan, but you mentioned him. 

[ravensdan]

A few? A FEW? Eight seasons of at least 1200 yards, nine of at least 10 touchdowns, and seven in which he combined for at least 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns. He led the league in touchdowns five times and set an NFL record with 23 touchdown passes. He essentially made Tom Brady that season, a quarterback who wasn't truly special until 2007. This is not even mentioning the absurd 17 touchdowns as a rookie, which led the NFL.

How many bad seasons did he have? Not including his gimmicky season with the 49ers, three, two of which were marred by injuries and one in which he was passed around from team to team.

How many teams did he quit on? The Titans and Vikings, I'd say.

Cris Carter was a complete nut job in Phili and got himself kicked out of Phili because he had a falling out with Buddy Ryan, but you mentioned him.

He quit on every team he played for at one point or another. Maybe the exception of New England but bill cut ties before he gave him the chance there. Carter is a different scenario. He was admittedly a train wreck early on but once he cleaned himself up he was the model of consistency from there forward. Even TO who had plenty of issues never quit the way Moss did many times. Despite the numbers. I just can't include a guy who quit on his team on this list. Again I ask the question. Name one other player on this list you can say quit on plays, games, seasons and teams?

[T3hRaven]

Randy Moss is the most physically gifted receiver of all time. It is known.

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A few? A FEW? Eight seasons of at least 1200 yards, nine of at least 10 touchdowns, and seven in which he combined for at least 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns. He led the league in touchdowns five times and set an NFL record with 23 touchdown passes. He essentially made Tom Brady that season, a quarterback who wasn't truly special until 2007. This is not even mentioning the absurd 17 touchdowns as a rookie, which led the NFL.

 

How many bad seasons did he have? Not including his gimmicky season with the 49ers, three, two of which were marred by injuries and one in which he was passed around from team to team.

 

How many teams did he quit on? The Titans and Vikings, I'd say. 

 

Cris Carter was a complete nut job in Phili and got himself kicked out of Phili because he had a falling out with Buddy Ryan, but you mentioned him. 

How can you not mention the Raiders?

[BmoreBird22]

How can you not mention the Raiders?

Those were some injury plagued years

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Those were some injury plagued years

Moss missed three games, all during the 2006 season. His injuries were certainly partly to blame but it also became clear that he didn't really care.

[BmoreBird22]

Moss missed three games, all during the 2006 season. His injuries were certainly partly to blame but it also became clear that he didn't really care.

They were definitely lingering to the point that the Raiders essentially used him as a decoy when he was on the field at times. Still would not let that hold him out of the best receiver ever conversation

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They were definitely lingering to the point that the Raiders essentially used him as a decoy when he was on the field at times. Still would not let that hold him out of the best receiver ever conversation

He's definitely high on the list. When we're talking about the best players to ever play we're discussing talent, and Moss had plenty.

[Guest Omerta]

You're talking a lot of what ifs and a lot of hypotheticals. IF Randy Moss had applied himself more, he could have been the best receiver in the game, in my opinion. However, he didn't and he'll just go down as a top three ever. IF Barry Sanders had played longer, I think he'd be unanimously the best running back ever. 

 

Reed got shoddy with his tackling toward the end of his career. Early on, he knew how to tackle and could lay a hit down, but all those neck injuries and shoulder injuries took their tole and Reed didn't know when to hang it up. As a result, he became a lot less physical. 

 

We don't know what he would have become had he been allowed to play for longer. Going off what we have, he's not considered one of the greatest safeties ever, by most. 

 

Weren't you just answering in what-if about two head cases named moss and Owens and still think they are top 3 or so ? 

 

When I made my list it was on the basis of all things being equal. In 2007 he put together one of the best seasons by a safety since vintage dawkins. I am not assuming that if we are doing a cosmic re-draft in which all players have full careers I am confident enough to say I take Sean Taylor over Ed Reed and honestly it is not a decision that is all that hard based on play. I am not predicting that Sean Taylor dies in this scenario and am basing it on all things being equal. 

 

You cant honestly tell me that in 2007 Reed was just so much better than Sean Taylor.

[BmoreBird22]

Weren't you just answering in what-if about two head cases named moss and Owens and still think they are top 3 or so ? 

 

When I made my list it was on the basis of all things being equal. In 2007 he put together one of the best seasons by a safety since vintage dawkins. I am not assuming that if we are doing a cosmic re-draft in which all players have full careers I am confident enough to say I take Sean Taylor over Ed Reed and honestly it is not a decision that is all that hard based on play. I am not predicting that Sean Taylor dies in this scenario and am basing it on all things being equal. 

 

You cant honestly tell me that in 2007 Reed was just so much better than Sean Taylor.

No, I was trying to argue it based on his play and not based on his off the field incidents.

I never said that Reed was better than Taylor in 2007, but you're basing four years against an entire career. It's not even just comparing it against solely Reed, but guys like Lott, Atwater, Sharper, Krause, etc. He just does not compare in those four years.

It's sad his career ended abruptly, but it'd be silly to take him over products who did it for so long

[Guest Omerta]

No, I was trying to argue it based on his play and not based on his off the field incidents.

I never said that Reed was better than Taylor in 2007, but you're basing four years against an entire career. It's not even just comparing it against solely Reed, but guys like Lott, Atwater, Sharper, Krause, etc. He just does not compare in those four years.

It's sad his career ended abruptly, but it'd be silly to take him over products who did it for so long

 

Again I am operating in this alternate universe where Sean Taylor plays a full career and where I think he would be. I am truly sorry you disagree and all...

[BmoreBird22]

Again I am operating in this alternate universe where Sean Taylor plays a full career and where I think he would be. I am truly sorry you disagree and all...

You don't know how his full career would have gone is all I'm saying