The Flacco's Next Record To Break

[Inqui]

Ben is gone sooner than later and then ends the steelers glory days. Bengals should be winning in the playoffs, but Dalton is worse than Romo. Browns have Manziel (who will get hurt but he can star) and Hoyer.

Ben should be able to stick around for a few years now that he knows how to make quick passes, and the Browns are never easy-beats irrespective of who they have at QB. They did beat us with Jason Campbell under centre.

[usmccharles]

I think Flacco is the best QB in the league. He's never had a Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne. Brady had the luxury of learning from Bledsoe and Belichick and they won super bowls with the compliment of a solid run game along with sure handed receivers. Aside from "knowledge" Flacco is bigger, stronger and faster than the both of them. Don't forget about the Patriots D when they won Super Bowls, Brady did make mistakes but the defense scrubbed them. Flacco outright outplayed both of them two years ago on the road. That would make him better in my book, despite stats.

I can not even discuss that comment. 

 

You cant go on saying all that with out mentioning how good the ravens defense has been since joe has been here.  Yes joe had a historical postseason in our SB year and normaly plays on par or better than brady when we do play them, but he still does not show consistency which is the most important thing.  Maybe if he had a moss, megatron, dex, green, etc he would be a top 5 guy but he doesnt have one of them and this is what we have, im not complaining, but i cant say hes the best because he has shown nothing to prove hes the best over his 5 year period.  You need consistency, if not then you might as well put matt flynn up in the top with his 7 td game.  i stand behind joe always,but he is not the best qb in the nfl. 

[ravensnick]

I can not even discuss that comment. 

 

You cant go on saying all that with out mentioning how good the ravens defense has been since joe has been here.  Yes joe had a historical postseason in our SB year and normaly plays on par or better than brady when we do play them, but he still does not show consistency which is the most important thing.  Maybe if he had a moss, megatron, dex, green, etc he would be a top 5 guy but he doesnt have one of them and this is what we have, im not complaining, but i cant say hes the best because he has shown nothing to prove hes the best over his 5 year period.  You need consistency, if not then you might as well put matt flynn up in the top with his 7 td game.  i stand behind joe always,but he is not the best qb in the nfl. 

His career arch minus last year has been similar to Brady's.

[flynismo]

That's a hyperbole,right?

Not at all. I view Oher as possibly the worst starting OT in the league, or at least one of the two or three worst

[Tank 92]

Ben is gone sooner than later and then ends the steelers glory days. Bengals should be winning in the playoffs, but Dalton is worse than Romo. Browns have Manziel (who will get hurt but he can star) and Hoyer.

 

 

Contrary to what many believe, Jen don't make or break the squealers. Ravens/squealers will always be a hard fought match, as will any game within the division.  Never a gimme there.

[Tank 92]

We, arguably, have the most successful QB to be drafted in the past 6 years.  Many things have to come together to make it to the end, but Joe Flacco is the very least of this franchise's worries. I think we are headed down the right path for not only One Twenty to succeed, but a path that will allow the Ravens to be competitive for years to come. Our FO is one of the sharpest in the NFL and Harbs will only get smarter with every game. He is a quality NFL Coach. 

 

In short, me thinks The Flacco will continue to thrive and only become better. Records? As has been witnessed in the past 6 years, they mean squat. For the next 7 to 10 years, give me Joe Flacco when the game is on the line. 

[davy_861]

I can not even discuss that comment. 

 

You cant go on saying all that with out mentioning how good the ravens defense has been since joe has been here.  Yes joe had a historical postseason in our SB year and normaly plays on par or better than brady when we do play them, but he still does not show consistency which is the most important thing.  Maybe if he had a moss, megatron, dex, green, etc he would be a top 5 guy but he doesnt have one of them and this is what we have, im not complaining, but i cant say hes the best because he has shown nothing to prove hes the best over his 5 year period.  You need consistency, if not then you might as well put matt flynn up in the top with his 7 td game.  i stand behind joe always,but he is not the best qb in the nfl. 

I can, I did and  where did Matt Flynn come from? You say you stand behind Flacco and you had the audacity to bring Matt Flynn into the discussion--that's funny. You reiterated MY POINT when you started talking about DEFENSE, Moss and Megatron. We agree on something.

[ravensnick]

I can not even discuss that comment. 

 

You cant go on saying all that with out mentioning how good the ravens defense has been since joe has been here.  Yes joe had a historical postseason in our SB year and normaly plays on par or better than brady when we do play them, but he still does not show consistency which is the most important thing.  Maybe if he had a moss, megatron, dex, green, etc he would be a top 5 guy but he doesnt have one of them and this is what we have, im not complaining, but i cant say hes the best because he has shown nothing to prove hes the best over his 5 year period.  You need consistency, if not then you might as well put matt flynn up in the top with his 7 td game.  i stand behind joe always,but he is not the best qb in the nfl. 

Please tell me you are joking. That was a meaningless game to both the Packers and Lions and both put in almost all backups. And even put Flynn and Flacco in the same sentence...

[The Raven]

Please tell me you are joking. That was a meaningless game to both the Packers and Lions and both put in almost all backups. And even put Flynn and Flacco in the same sentence...

 

Looks like you missed the point.

[ravensnick]

Looks like you missed the point.

I get it but, You can't say you like Joe and then go compare him to Flynn.

[The Raven]

I get it but, You can't say you like Joe and then go compare him to Flynn.

 

You missed the point again.

[Inqui]

I get it but, You can't say you like Joe and then go compare him to Flynn.

You're still missing the point - as is davy861. He's saying you need more than one (albeit godlike) SB run to be the very best. At the end of the day, it's just four games and any QB can have a great run of games. Take out Matt Flynn and put in Nick Foles or even Brian Hoyer or RG3-13 and you can make the same argument.

 

I love Flacco, but he isn't the best in the league (and may never be) until he can be that good more consistently.

[SecretAgentMan]

Flacco is good enough to win a SB, I mean he's freaking done it(all I care about) But best in the league? Lmao.

[52520Andrew]

Flacco can win a Super Bowl and that is all that matters to me

[flynismo]

I can not even discuss that comment.

You cant go on saying all that with out mentioning how good the ravens defense has been since joe has been here. Yes joe had a historical postseason in our SB year and normaly plays on par or better than brady when we do play them, but he still does not show consistency which is the most important thing. Maybe if he had a moss, megatron, dex, green, etc he would be a top 5 guy but he doesnt have one of them and this is what we have, im not complaining, but i cant say hes the best because he has shown nothing to prove hes the best over his 5 year period. You need consistency, if not then you might as well put matt flynn up in the top with his 7 td game. i stand behind joe always,but he is not the best qb in the nfl.

Yes, Flacco had some good defenses, but what is the point of mentioning that?

So did Brady when he was relevant in the postseason; nobody knocks him for that. Nobody puts an asterisk next to Peyton's accomplishments for having an embarrassment of riches to work with on offense his entire career. Russell Wilson just won a SB with a far better defense than Flacco has ever had, and now he is 'the next big thing'.

And I certainly understand why people are baffled by bringing up Flynn. it's not like Flacco only had one good game, against backups, his entire career.

[davy_861]

Yes, Flacco had some good defenses, but what is the point of mentioning that?

So did Brady when he was relevant in the postseason; nobody knocks him for that. Nobody puts an asterisk next to Peyton's accomplishments for having an embarrassment of riches to work with on offense his entire career. Russell Wilson just won a SB with a far better defense than Flacco has ever had, and now he is 'the next big thing'.

And I certainly understand why people are baffled by bringing up Flynn. it's not like Flacco only had one good game, against backups, his entire career.

Well said Flynismo. I agree.

[usmccharles]

I can, I did and  where did Matt Flynn come from? You say you stand behind Flacco and you had the audacity to bring Matt Flynn into the discussion--that's funny. You reiterated MY POINT when you started talking about DEFENSE, Moss and Megatron. We agree on something.

 

Just because i dont agree that Flacco isnt the best qb in the league does not mean i dont stand behind him, always have, i just said he needs more consistency.

Please tell me you are joking. That was a meaningless game to both the Packers and Lions and both put in almost all backups. And even put Flynn and Flacco in the same sentence...

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Yes, Flacco had some good defenses, but what is the point of mentioning that?

So did Brady when he was relevant in the postseason; nobody knocks him for that. Nobody puts an asterisk next to Peyton's accomplishments for having an embarrassment of riches to work with on offense his entire career. Russell Wilson just won a SB with a far better defense than Flacco has ever had, and now he is 'the next big thing'.

And I certainly understand why people are baffled by bringing up Flynn. it's not like Flacco only had one good game, against backups, his entire career.

 

Haha, guys, in no way im putting flynn and flacco in the same category.  was just an example that you need consistency, flynn looked awesome that game, but then could win a starting job anywhere.  Sorry, bad example guys. 

 

Like i said before, i stand behind joe, just want more consistency out of him, hes an easy top ten qb and i think with the weapons he has this year and a better offensive scheme, i think hes going to be a top 5 qb. 

[flynismo]

Just because i dont agree that Flacco isnt the best qb in the league does not mean i dont stand behind him, always have, i just said he needs more consistency.

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Haha, guys, in no way im putting flynn and flacco in the same category. was just an example that you need consistency, flynn looked awesome that game, but then could win a starting job anywhere. Sorry, bad example guys.

Like i said before, i stand behind joe, just want more consistency out of him, hes an easy top ten qb and i think with the weapons he has this year and a better offensive scheme, i think hes going to be a top 5 qb.

Actually, I understood the Flynn thing, but it was a terrible example.

Flacco gets a lot of flak (see what I did?) for being inconsistent, but in a vacuum where everyone is put in the best possible situation for them, well, it's why I'm such a Flacco homer He is a phenomenal talent, and we have done more than our share of holding him back from achieving personal accomplishments. Not that we should care about that, but the general perception of him would be much different if he were in a different system. But maybe Kubiak will change that....I just hope better stat lines for our QB doesn't come at the expense of winning games

[ravensnick]

You're still missing the point - as is davy861. He's saying you need more than one (albeit godlike) SB run to be the very best. At the end of the day, it's just four games and any QB can have a great run of games. Take out Matt Flynn and put in Nick Foles or even Brian Hoyer or RG3-13 and you can make the same argument.

 

I love Flacco, but he isn't the best in the league (and may never be) until he can be that good more consistently.

i give you RG3 or Foles, but not Hoyer. He had 3 good games.

[ravensnick]

Flacco is good enough to win a SB, I mean he's freaking done it(all I care about) But best in the league? Lmao.

I'd say Joe is top 7.

[davy_861]

Just because i dont agree that Flacco isnt the best qb in the league does not mean i dont stand behind him, always have, i just said he needs more consistency.

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Haha, guys, in no way im putting flynn and flacco in the same category.  was just an example that you need consistency, flynn looked awesome that game, but then could win a starting job anywhere.  Sorry, bad example guys. 

 

Like i said before, i stand behind joe, just want more consistency out of him, hes an easy top ten qb and i think with the weapons he has this year and a better offensive scheme, i think hes going to be a top 5 qb. 

We would all like to see less fumbles and other mistakes. Told you, we do agree on something. I still think Flacco is the best QB in the league. It brings peoples blood to a boil every time I say it.

[Tank 92]

We would all like to see less fumbles and other mistakes. Told you, we do agree on something. I still think Flacco is the best QB in the league. It brings peoples blood to a boil every time I say it.

 

 

Doesn't bring my blood to a boil, although I think you are wrong.  He's second best, just behind Rogers.     

[Inqui]

i give you RG3 or Foles, but not Hoyer. He had 3 good games.

Which is exactly the point. A few good games doesn't make a great QB.

[ravensnick]

Which is exactly the point. A few good games doesn't make a great QB.

But he has also started like 3 games.He's a career backup and Too small at a sample size.

[Guest RBates]

I only have one comment.  Why are we discussing records and the man is coming off his worst season ever?  Can we at least talk about what he needs to do to get better.  Supporters smh.  

[beanfigger]

Which is exactly the point. A few good games doesn't make a great QB.

So you think Flacco has only had a few good games? Ever?

[Inqui]

So you think Flacco has only had a few good games? Ever?

I think he can be up there with Drew Brees. I'm just saying what these other guys are saying, that he needs to be more consistent to get to that level. If you praise people for their good games, you can put a whole raft of QBs up there. And if you rate Flacco's whole body of work, you have a lot of not-so-flash games to consider too (more so than guys like Brees et al).

[ellicottraven]

Flacco's problem is his consistency. He is never going to be a great QB in the NFL simply because great ones are great because they're consistently good. Flacco frustrates you with his 1 game on, 2 games off, 2 games on and 1 game off type consistency. It seems like there is something different about our QB. Loads of talent but not too many leadership intangibles to go along with the talent... hopefully this 7th year, he will make things happen because if he is inconsistent again on a game to game and a drive to drive basis, we'll just learn to accept him that way and hope he has more good games and drives than terrible ones...

[The Raven]

I only have one comment.  Why are we discussing records and the man is coming off his worst season ever?  Can we at least talk about what he needs to do to get better.  Supporters smh.  

 

Have we not done that? Get more accurate and get better at reading defenses? We haven't talked about that? Where have you been?

[1/28/01]

Have we not done that? Get more accurate and get better at reading defenses? We haven't talked about that? Where have you been?

Sitting back waiting to spit out some nonsense. And this is coming from me, who is a supporter of Joe, but not in love with him nor his game at all.