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Is there still a position on the team you feel still needs to be addressed?

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Looking at our secondary, I am hoping we can find some db's to strengthen this area with guys we have. There was some talk of a db from Nebraska that went undrafted Ciante Evans on the Steelers boards, dont know much about hin.

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I would say CB and RT. I think we will pounce on roster cuts.

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I'd say

 

- Nickleback. Maybe a long rangy CB with long arm to go with Jimmy Smith on the outside with Webb in the slot.

- Veteran RT if Wagner or any other on our roster seems starting caliber

- Maybe some inside LB depth we'll see how it goes with the UDFA. Smith, Mosley, Brown are a lock but no depth behind

- maybe a veteran safety who gets cut... we'll see but I'd go with Brooks and Elam tbh

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Most concerning position for me is that 3rd CB spot. I really hope we sign a veteran, to at least compete with Jackson/Brown before the season starts.

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I'm very okay with right tackle right now. I was concerned immediately after the draft, however once I saw we got James Hurst, I felt much better about it. I liked him in college, and he should have been a 1st-3rd round pick if it weren't for his broken leg. Quite frankly, I feel okay with him potentially being our next gem of an undrafted free agent and locking down that open tackle position. Not many people can say they held Clowney without a sack in college, but Hurst did.

 

The only position I'd be worried about is corner depth. I'm truly hoping Patterson and Seamster pan out. They looked quite solid in college, but we'll have to see how they translate to the pros. If they turn the corner well, we could have a nice, young secondary. 

 

This defense is getting younger and more talented and I love it.

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You guys are on the same page as I am. I am feeling ok about the Oline. RB is however another major concern I have. I remember Terry Allen filling in for Jamal back in the day. RB is a big question mark.

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Until the final cuts are made, I'm all right with where we are, save for the RB position.  There are just too many questions waiting to be answered when it comes to Rice.  If Pierce would have had a tremendous 2013, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  However, with Kubiak and the O-Line patches, I think the run game could be fairly decent if we need to rely on Pierce for the better part of the season.  Just need to keep him healthy.

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As strange as it sounds, we could definately use a solid backup for our OLB's. behind Suggs and Doom are not much and they are over 30 so we could surely benefit from young blood to back them up.

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Why do you say he sucks?

He's slow and heavy footed with piss poor vision. Great pass protector and good receiver, but I don't think he's a full year starter
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He's slow and heavy footed with piss poor vision. Great pass protector and good receiver, but I don't think he's a full year starter

I'm mainly expecting him (at least for his first season) as a guy that can get those 2 to 3 yards that matter the most... aka the goal line/third down situations.  I'll never expect him to be a Matt Forte kind of guy, but just a short yardage bruiser.  We really could have used a guy like that last year.  

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He's slow and heavy footed with piss poor vision. Great pass protector and good receiver, but I don't think he's a full year starter

 

I see where those criticisms come from, but I disagree with them. From the little bit of film there is available, it's evident that his offensive line was less than stellar. A bad oline not making holes would certainly make a back look slow and heavy footed with bad vision, right? Just ask Rice... But when he has a hole, he hits it hard.

 

Watch this and tell me he's slow footed at 3:35

 

Moreover, he's got a 6.88 3 cone which is pretty darn impressive for a 230 pound back. To put that into perspective, Rice ran a 6.65 3 cone at 195.

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Here's a direct quote from the 2004 Denver Broncos playbook (for which Kubiak was the OC).

 

 

Running backs:

1. Finish every play full speed with/without the ball. (Runs & receptions 40 yards downfield) (Blocking & fakes).

 

2. Omit fumbles - protect the ball (Squeeze ball/pressure points).

 

3. Blocking is a must! (Run & pass) (Attack & strike)

 

4. No negative yards - get ball up field in a hurry - (You get one cut).

 

5. Stay in bounds - Bronco RB's don't run out of bounds!!! (Attack & strike defenders)

 

The things Taliaferro has been praised for are his pass protection and his ability to keep working after contact. Personally I also like how quickly he picks his holes as well - even if he doesn't make the right choice. Just looking at those five points Kubiak chose to emphasise suggests Taliaferro was a guy we really wanted as a system fit.

 

As for the positions of need, I'm content with everything except CB. We need a solid nickel guy (though I do think either Chykie or Asa will make the spot their own) and injury cover.

 

I'm more confident than most here seem to be that between Wagner, Hurst and KO we'll be fine at RT. And I've said my piece on RB.

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Watch this and tell me he's slow footed at 3:35.

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From that YouTube clip you posted, I found this comment telling:

 

 

Keep in mind the temperature at kickoff for this game was negative three degrees. This was also one of the biggest D lines we had faced all season. I watched Taliaferro in person all season. He is a monster. 

 

"One of the biggest D lines we had faced all season" makes this play look good too.

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we need a 3rd corner to challenge jackson and  brown.

 

hopefull jackson wins it and pan out but still i want an insurance.

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before last season i wouldnt have said RB and i may have said MLB. prior to last season i thought we were set in the running game with rice and pierce. i may have said we were doomed at mlb with ray and ellerbe leaving, but then smith and the other MLB's turned in some fine performances. this year im just going to shut my mouth and wait and see b.c i may say we need more at RB and then we have the best rushing season in years. and i may say we are set at the LT position and monroe turns out to be worse than oher. im just going to wait and see how things shake out this year.

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before last season i wouldnt have said RB and i may have said MLB. prior to last season i thought we were set in the running game with rice and pierce. i may have said we were doomed at mlb with ray and ellerbe leaving, but then smith and the other MLB's turned in some fine performances. this year im just going to shut my mouth and wait and see b.c i may say we need more at RB and then we have the best rushing season in years. and i may say we are set at the LT position and monroe turns out to be worse than oher. im just going to wait and see how things shake out this year.

How about you say every position needs addressing

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Two things that amazed me on draft day. The fact that we didn't pick an O tackle and the fact that we picked a RB that late. So, those are two areas of concern to me, but I am near certain the Ravens have a plan and will field a very good team come September.

Remember, Flacco works well when he has protection. I don't mean protection viz-a-viz what Rodgers and Manning seem to have, but way better! Flacco needs more time to find his receivers than Manning does surely. So, why not give him that extra time of protection. Otherwise, we'll see Joe running around avoiding rushers and make errors by throwing into coverages and most importantly get pounded and hurt. Give him the best O-line front office, if you want him to succeed.

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As strange as it sounds, we could definately use a solid backup for our OLB's. behind Suggs and Doom are not much and they are over 30 so we could surely benefit from young blood to back them up.

Glad someone else sees this. This is the biggest weakness on our roster and it's not close. A veteran corner or offensive lineman could be added late after June 1 and be a very good player. There won't be any pass rushing Olbs available.

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Two things that amazed me on draft day. The fact that we didn't pick an O tackle and the fact that we picked a RB that late. So, those are two areas of concern to me, but I am near certain the Ravens have a plan and will field a very good team come September.

Remember, Flacco works well when he has protection. I don't mean protection viz-a-viz what Rodgers and Manning seem to have, but way better! Flacco needs more time to find his receivers than Manning does surely. So, why not give him that extra time of protection. Otherwise, we'll see Joe running around avoiding rushers and make errors by throwing into coverages and most importantly get pounded and hurt. Give him the best O-line front office, if you want him to succeed.

Right, he does need more time than them. He needs enough time for his two-route receivers to get open. I like that we picked a slot guy who hopefully can get open quicker, but I would have liked Abbrederis for that in an earlier round.

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Two things that amazed me on draft day. The fact that we didn't pick an O tackle and the fact that we picked a RB that late. So, those are two areas of concern to me, but I am near certain the Ravens have a plan and will field a very good team come September.Remember, Flacco works well when he has protection. I don't mean protection viz-a-viz what Rodgers and Manning seem to have, but way better! Flacco needs more time to find his receivers than Manning does surely. So, why not give him that extra time of protection. Otherwise, we'll see Joe running around avoiding rushers and make errors by throwing into coverages and most importantly get pounded and hurt. Give him the best O-line front office, if you want him to succeed.

Two things wrong with this, in my opinion. 1. Manning could have the most time in the league if he wanted. If the Broncos ran the Air-Coryell all vertical offense, he'd be fine. The thing is, they run a quick strike offense and Manning is expected to get it out fast. 2. Joe doesn't need tons of time to get it out. He played in that Air-Coryell all vertical offense that utilized a lot of deep developing routes and routes that took a while (still had the eighth fastest release and a faster release than Rodgers). In Kubiak's offense, it's more than likely Joe will be asked to get the ball out quickly, as such is the nature of the west coast offense

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