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The past few drafts Ozzie has really been focusing on building a dominant defense to come. i am starting to see it mold together. in a couple seasons this defensive is going to wreak havoc.

 

 a dominant front 7 in the making. jernigan will end up being an upgrade of jones in a yr or so. brandon williams will be a kelly gregg like NT and if Urban can develop like he should he could be a monster but im not going to get my hopes up for him yet. Upshaw continues to improve and will eventually need a elite pass rusher opposite of him as suggs and doom fade out. brown and mosley will anchor this defense and be one of the elite ilb corps of the league.

 

Secondary be best in years

webb will be ending his prime by this time but will still be a big playmaker. jimmy smith will emerge as the huge talent we all hoped and elam will hopefully mature and be the enforcer of the secondary. FS is another position that may need filing but we will see how ozzie's pick this year turns out in brookes. ozzie may have found a gem, but im not sold yet so we will see.

 

im very excited to see this young defense develop. so many intriguing pieces. 

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Lots of talent on our roster right now and our defense could be dominate next year. May take a year for these rookies to catch on, but give Mosley, Jernigan, and Brooks some time to develop and they will probably be our starters. Finally have that interior rush guy who can compliment our outside rush. Mosley's instincts are incredible and with guys like Jerngian/Ngata/Canty there to take up blockers he's going to have easy holes to fill. One of the reasons Ray was so great is because his DT's kept the lineman off of him so he could make the play in space. Mosley and Brown are linebackers who excel at that and hopefully can turn into our starters once Smith is gone. 

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Even this year we should be looking at the top 10 at least. Imagine having a side facing 2nd & 14 with us fielding a front seven of Dumervil, Ngata, Jernigan, Suggs, Smith, Mosley and Brown. Good luck passing against that.

 

We're building a really nice young core at the moment and it looks like those days of no-one rushing for 100 yards on us are going to return at some point. Give it time and our DL rotation could rival the Bengals. And we'll have a better secondary. Chuck in a quality five-tech rusher and a long-term CB2 and we just might have the answer to how good we'd look with an incredible defence and an actual franchise QB.

 

Can't help but wonder if something like this was forming as a long-term plan for Ozzie when Demarco Murray did a number on us.

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After a bit of time for Jernigan, Mosley and Brooks to get into the rhythm of things, this defense could become the best the Ravens have had since 2000.

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We are definitely building this defense. You can say what you want about a QB league but defense still has heavy influence on who wins the Super Bowl. I love the young talent. I'm excited to see how the young OLBs continue to develop. There are definitely still pieces to still be added, but from a foundation stand point ilike where we're going. Young, fast and physical.

Both Timmy and Brandon are strong and penetrating on the inside. Both are stout against the run but will also be able to get good pressure on the QB. We've taken two guys who could man the 5 over the last two years. Both Mosley and Brown can run and hit. Put them behind this dline and let them roam. Both are good in coverage so teams won't be able tojust spread us out. Jimmy is comingonto his own and developing into that shut down guy we hoped. Elam can now move to SS where he is better suited because we just drafted a really good FS with potential to be great and will quickly become aleader of the secondary. I love the future of this defense.

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After a bit of time for Jernigan, Mosley and Brooks to get into the rhythm of things, this defense could become the best the Ravens have had since 2000.

I don't know about that. 06 sure. There probably won't be another defense, ever, like the 2000 one. Too many rule changes.

 

I thought it was a great defensive draft. Mosely and Jernigan have strong potential to be two slam dunks. Besides that Mosely is just a great person. Him and Harbaugh are going to get along greatly. Urban and Brooks seem like solid picks. The only real question mark to me is Brooks but he could be solid. Urban has that grinder feel like a Kruger or Jarret Johnson, I thought it was a great pick for depth,versatility, and effort. Don't sleep on that RB. Kubiak and Harbaugh are two great evaluators of that position. In two years the Ravens could be making some serious super bowl runs if a few of those picks pan out and I think they will. The Defense really needed this. Next year's draft will be the big one. A couple offensive hits next year and bam you have an instant deep playoff team again in my eyes. Urban might be the guy that everyone ends up thinking was a steal in the fourth.

 

I'm not going to say anything about Brown yet. I think he could make a Bart Scott like impact because he's fast but I have concerns about his mental make up. I wouldn't be surprised if he did well but I'm not counting on it.

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One thing to note, I'm pretty sure we ran a 4-3 during the 200 SB run and I think we switch to that this year.

 

Starters would be: Ngata at 1-tech, Canty/Jernigan at 3 tech, Dumervil/Upshaw at LDE, Suggs at RDE, Brown at LOLB, Smith at MLB, and Mosely at ROLB.

 

Secondary is: FS: Brooks, SS: Elam, CBs: Webb, Smith 3rd CB (if he can avoid suspension): Jackson.

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One thing to note, I'm pretty sure we ran a 4-3 during the 200 SB run and I think we switch to that this year.

I doubt a switch to 4-3 will happen. If for nothing else, than the fact that Dumervil has had his best years as an OLB and I don't think Upshaw fits into a 4-3 scheme. He's better at setting the edge as a linebacker. Plus, I would prefer both Mosley and Brown to be in the middle, making it easier for them to roam all over the field, rather than having one being stuck on just the left or right side.

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One thing to note, I'm pretty sure we ran a 4-3 during the 200 SB run and I think we switch to that this year.

Starters would be: Ngata at 1-tech, Canty/Jernigan at 3 tech, Dumervil/Upshaw at LDE, Suggs at RDE, Brown at LOLB, Smith at MLB, and Mosely at ROLB.

Secondary is: FS: Brooks, SS: Elam, CBs: Webb, Smith 3rd CB (if he can avoid suspension): Jackson.

brown would be will, mosley mike and smith sam I think.
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I doubt a switch to 4-3 will happen. If for nothing else, than the fact that Dumervil has had his best years as an OLB and I don't think Upshaw fits into a 4-3 scheme. He's better at setting the edge as a linebacker. Plus, I would prefer both Mosley and Brown to be in the middle, making it easier for them to roam all over the field, rather than having one being stuck on just the left or right side.

The scouts pretty much said they took Brent Urban because he is a perfect 3-4 fit. Why would we draft him if we were switching to a 4-3? 

Pees also coaches a 3-4 - he and our position coaches would be lost if we suddenly changed to a 4-3. You're right - it's not gonna happen. But there will always be mixed formations anyway.

 

We have young players on this D that have yet to contribute or hit their potential. John Simon has not been mentioned yet. Adrian Hamilton could still be a surprise 3rd down pass rusher (or not make the team).

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I doubt a switch to 4-3 will happen. If for nothing else, than the fact that Dumervil has had his best years as an OLB and I don't think Upshaw fits into a 4-3 scheme. He's better at setting the edge as a linebacker. Plus, I would prefer both Mosley and Brown to be in the middle, making it easier for them to roam all over the field, rather than having one being stuck on just the left or right side.

I think that year had more to do with Dum being his prime than playing OLB. He is definitely more of a DE than a OLB

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I have a feeling that John Simon will log some valuable minutes for us too. I really believe that he will make effort plays on our defense that will largely go unnoticed  ala Jarrett Johnson. 

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I think that year had more to do with Dum being his prime than playing OLB. He is definitely more of a DE than a OLB

If anything he was in his prime when he was playing DE.  But I don't think there's a huge split.  He's a good pass rusher and bad run defender in either formation

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If anything he was in his prime when he was playing DE.  But I don't think there's a huge split.  He's a good pass rusher and bad run defender in either formation

True, thats why Upshaw is a co-starter.

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we need some young dynamic pass rushers before I get super excited about this young defense. But I do like where it is going.

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The scouts pretty much said they took Brent Urban because he is a perfect 3-4 fit. Why would we draft him if we were switching to a 4-3? 

Pees also coaches a 3-4 - he and our position coaches would be lost if we suddenly changed to a 4-3. You're right - it's not gonna happen. But there will always be mixed formations anyway.

 

We have young players on this D that have yet to contribute or hit their potential. John Simon has not been mentioned yet. Adrian Hamilton could still be a surprise 3rd down pass rusher (or not make the team).

Urban could also play 4-3 DT, we ran a lot of 4-3 last year with Suggs in a three point.

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Urban could also play 4-3 DT, we ran a lot of 4-3 last year with Suggs in a three point.

We also ran a lot of 5-2. We use multiple fronts during a game.

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We also ran a lot of 5-2. We use multiple fronts during a game.

True, but I think a 4-3 base would be a solid idea.

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The past few drafts Ozzie has really been focusing on building a dominant defense to come. i am starting to see it mold together. in a couple seasons this defensive is going to wreak havoc.

 

 a dominant front 7 in the making. jernigan will end up being an upgrade of jones in a yr or so. brandon williams will be a kelly gregg like NT and if Urban can develop like he should he could be a monster but im not going to get my hopes up for him yet. Upshaw continues to improve and will eventually need a elite pass rusher opposite of him as suggs and doom fade out. brown and mosley will anchor this defense and be one of the elite ilb corps of the league.

 

Secondary be best in years

webb will be ending his prime by this time but will still be a big playmaker. jimmy smith will emerge as the huge talent we all hoped and elam will hopefully mature and be the enforcer of the secondary. FS is another position that may need filing but we will see how ozzie's pick this year turns out in brookes. ozzie may have found a gem, but im not sold yet so we will see.

 

im very excited to see this young defense develop. so many intriguing pieces. 

I think Asa and Brown have a real chance of making up for the lost CB depth this offseason. They are young and have had some time on the field and they are not going to be asked to do a lot since we still have web and jimmy out there. Im sure ravens brass will bring in comp but I can see them both making it to preseason.

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I think Asa and Brown have a real chance of making up for the lost CB depth this offseason. They are young and have had some time on the field and they are not going to be asked to do a lot since we still have web and jimmy out there. Im sure ravens brass will bring in comp but I can see them both making it to preseason.

i think if Asa keeps clean, he could be a great #3 this year. Chykie has shown flashes at the role before.

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I think Asa and Brown have a real chance of making up for the lost CB depth this offseason. They are young and have had some time on the field and they are not going to be asked to do a lot since we still have web and jimmy out there. Im sure ravens brass will bring in comp but I can see them both making it to preseason.

 

 

i think if Asa keeps clean, he could be a great #3 this year. Chykie has shown flashes at the role before.

I'm convinced we're going to start Brown as a #3 CB and likely move Webb inside and put Brooks or Elam as safety help over Brown. It's my most likely scenario. I think we will want Brown to shine to get a compensatory pick from him as we did Kruger. The only way to do it is to start him unless a really good CB becomes available or simply flat-out beats him.

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I'm convinced we're going to start Brown as a #3 CB and likely move Webb inside and put Brooks or Elam as safety help over Brown. It's my most likely scenario. I think we will want Brown to shine to get a compensatory pick from him as we did Kruger. The only way to do it is to start him unless a really good CB becomes available or simply flat-out beats him.

i think Chykie should be up for it. I got no problems with him being the #3 CB. Then we have Asa Jackson, maybe a veteran, and an UDFA for depth.

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This defense is going to be something big in the near future.

 

On the topic of scheme, I think that running a single gap 3-4 might be more likely than full on switch to a 4-3. This single gap scheme is basically a 4-3 but with 3-4 personnel. That's the really basic gist of it. Since none of defensive linemen are true two gappers, I just don't see us running a traditional style 3-4. The single gap version would get the most out of our guys. 

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I always like to get back to the "State of the Ravens" press conference after Super Bowl win in Superdome. It was pretty much clear that we are in rebuilding mode since then and that it will take 2-3 years to build a young roster worth of championships. We lost a lot on D in FA/retirement at the time and it was logical we need to start this rebuild from there.

 

If all the top draft picks from last two drafts pan out, I'd say we are one more top CB and one more top pass rusher from legit lights out defense for years to come. Ed and Ray will never be replaced and we shouldn't bother trying to do that but Mosley and Brooks have so much talent and ability to play every snap that I think we have our new great combo in those positions and that we can really build our defensive play around them.

 

Really looking forward to next draft to finally get our offensive play makers sorted.

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I always like to get back to the "State of the Ravens" press conference after Super Bowl win in Superdome. It was pretty much clear that we are in rebuilding mode since then and that it will take 2-3 years to build a young roster worth of championships. We lost a lot on D in FA/retirement at the time and it was logical we need to start this rebuild from there.

 

If all the top draft picks from last two drafts pan out, I'd say we are one more top CB and one more top pass rusher from legit lights out defense for years to come. Ed and Ray will never be replaced and we shouldn't bother trying to do that but Mosley and Brooks have so much talent and ability to play every snap that I think we have our new great combo in those positions and that we can really build our defensive play around them.

 

Really looking forward to next draft to finally get our offensive play makers sorted.

True, but having Elam and Brown to consistently pair with them will go a long way too. 

 

The great thing about the 4-3 was that it let Ray Lewis in his prime run around and make plays. if we went back to that, we'd probably be looking at taking advantage of Mosley's and Brown's speed and playmaking ability too. Even if the secondary is a weakness, that front seven looks to conceal it pretty well imo.

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True, but having Elam and Brown to consistently pair with them will go a long way too. 

 

The great thing about the 4-3 was that it let Ray Lewis in his prime run around and make plays. if we went back to that, we'd probably be looking at taking advantage of Mosley's and Brown's speed and playmaking ability too. Even if the secondary is a weakness, that front seven looks to conceal it pretty well imo.

Of course - I'm not looking at Mosley and Brooks alone, that's why I said top picks from last two drafts.

 

Don't think we'll switch permanently to 4-3 just yet, there's a reason why Pees is DC but we'll definitely continue seeing more and more mixed fronts. Man, we have some serious young beef up front now.

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The scouts pretty much said they took Brent Urban because he is a perfect 3-4 fit. Why would we draft him if we were switching to a 4-3? 

Pees also coaches a 3-4 - he and our position coaches would be lost if we suddenly changed to a 4-3. You're right - it's not gonna happen. But there will always be mixed formations anyway.

 

We have young players on this D that have yet to contribute or hit their potential. John Simon has not been mentioned yet. Adrian Hamilton could still be a surprise 3rd down pass rusher (or not make the team).

Hamilton needs to be given a legit shot to not only make this team but also to compete for playing time. concerned about Dumervil and the pass rush in general.

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Depends on if out guys can't get to the QB.. We died off at the end of the year. I would love to see Suggs/Doom have 12+ sacks each!

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