The offensive line woes are greatly exaggerated.

[arnie_uk]

I like gordon a lot as well. Don't let the anti-Alabama guys hear you like Cooper.

the anti Bama guys don't like their defence, not the offence

[TDubbs]

Or if Flacco was our QB in 2006

 

As a Ravens fan, thinking about that is what makes me appreciate Flacco. That Defense was out of this world and if Flacco was on that team we easily would have won another SB. All we needed was adequate play from the QB ... That's it! 

[ravensnick]

the anti Bama guys don't like their defence, not the offence

Don't want to talk about Richardson, Ingram, their Qbs (who usually suck), O-line busts, but do want to talk about their D?

[arnie_uk]

Don't want to talk about Richardson, Ingram, their Qbs (who usually suck), O-line busts, but do want to talk about their D?

their defense is meant to be their thing, like it is here, yet alot don't get near their expectations at the next level.

[Ozzsome]

So I just watched game tape of Urschel and I have to say he is pretty good. Not that he punishes a DLiner 50 yards downfield but he holds his block well and double teams to the second level well too.

His game tape against Ohio State impressed me a bit more than when he played against Minnesota, which is also a plus to me, when a player has better games against better teams

Seems to be a great fit for the ZBS Kubiak is running. I like that pick

[ravensdfan]

The O line woes are not overrated. Just as the offensive woes in general are not overrated.

 

We were abysmal due to injuries and we are STILL an injury away from being horrible yet again on O line & in the running game. We fixed nothing.

[Inqui]

I like KO at RT, honestly. I wouldn't mind the OL being...

 

MONROE | WAGNER/HURST | ZUTTAH | YANDA | KO

 

or even...

 

MONROE | ZUTTAH | URSCHEL | YANDA | KO

 

That would be potentially very nice. Not sure if Urschel is ready, though.

That's what I like about our guys now. We clearly have options. Do you have Hurst as an OG?

 

For what it's worth, it sounds like a fibula can take anywhere from a few weeks (which I'm guessing this one wasn't as it still affected his draft stock) to a few months. What I'd be interested by is how strong the bone tends to be once it's healed. Fortunately pro athletes tend to have pretty good genetics for healing (that or it's an excuse for some kind of PED that everyone takes. Whatever).

 

A quick glance at the WalterFootball 2015 mock draft has these guys in the first:

WRs Amari Cooper (Alabama), Nelson Agholor (USC) and Jaelen Strong (Arizona State).

CBs PJ Williams and Ronald Darby (FSU), Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (Oregon), Trae Waynes (Michigan State), Jaelen Collins (LSU. Iirc he's the guy who completely did a number on Mike Evans) and Alex Carter (Stanford). 

 

Doesn't mean a lot for a whole raft of reasons, but if anyone can't take the time to settle down on what we have and wants to look ahead (like me...), then those are a few names worth looking into.

[ravensnick]

their defense is meant to be their thing, like it is here, yet alot don't get near their expectations at the next level.

So are their O-linemen and Rbs.

[ravensnick]

That's what I like about our guys now. We clearly have options. Do you have Hurst as an OG?

 

For what it's worth, it sounds like a fibula can take anywhere from a few weeks (which I'm guessing this one wasn't as it still affected his draft stock) to a few months. What I'd be interested by is how strong the bone tends to be once it's healed. Fortunately pro athletes tend to have pretty good genetics for healing (that or it's an excuse for some kind of PED that everyone takes. Whatever).

 

A quick glance at the WalterFootball 2015 mock draft has these guys in the first:

WRs Amari Cooper (Alabama), Nelson Agholor (USC) and Jaelen Strong (Arizona State).

CBs PJ Williams and Ronald Darby (FSU), Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (Oregon), Trae Waynes (Michigan State), Jaelen Collins (LSU. Iirc he's the guy who completely did a number on Mike Evans) and Alex Carter (Stanford). 

 

Doesn't mean a lot for a whole raft of reasons, but if anyone can't take the time to settle down on what we have and wants to look ahead (like me...), then those are a few names worth looking into.

Most tackles can play guard, but true guards can't play tackle.

[RavensDE]

Point blank we will sign a solid vet stop gap measure on the right side before camp. We are ok on the line but I thought we had a really good chance to get great this draft. Zach Martin would have really given is something special I thought but we will be ok on the line this year.

[GrimCoconut]

That's what I like about our guys now. We clearly have options. Do you have Hurst as an OG?

 

For what it's worth, it sounds like a fibula can take anywhere from a few weeks (which I'm guessing this one wasn't as it still affected his draft stock) to a few months. What I'd be interested by is how strong the bone tends to be once it's healed. Fortunately pro athletes tend to have pretty good genetics for healing (that or it's an excuse for some kind of PED that everyone takes. Whatever).

 

A quick glance at the WalterFootball 2015 mock draft has these guys in the first:

WRs Amari Cooper (Alabama), Nelson Agholor (USC) and Jaelen Strong (Arizona State).

CBs PJ Williams and Ronald Darby (FSU), Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (Oregon), Trae Waynes (Michigan State), Jaelen Collins (LSU. Iirc he's the guy who completely did a number on Mike Evans) and Alex Carter (Stanford). 

 

Doesn't mean a lot for a whole raft of reasons, but if anyone can't take the time to settle down on what we have and wants to look ahead (like me...), then those are a few names worth looking into.

I actually think Hurst could be a great LG! I really like his potential there a lot. I wouldn't mind him at LG or KO at LG. I sort of like both for different reasons. KO could just slide over to LT if Monroe gets hurt. I don't think Hurst can play LT but perhaps he could. I think Hurst could play LG or RT, though.

 

I like Cooper and Strong. I really like Strong. A lot.

[NUM4TIC]

You obviously don't know injuries, and that's okay, but don't try to act like you do. A broken leg takes roughly four months, and sometimes that can be shortened depending on the age and health of the person. Hurst is 22(?) and in excellent condition. His leg should be fully healed by now and he'll be ready to go for camp.

Man what a jerk thing to say. from a veterinarian no less. Broken legs can end careers and if he was going to play this year he would have been drafted. He's good and will add depth but as far as him seeing playing time. Not until next year.

Don't respond to me or quote me if you're just going to say i don't know something. Especially if it's obvious, I don't think you need to waste your time like that. And it's very off-putting. Not to me but anyone who reads that.

[NUM4TIC]

I actually think Hurst could be a great LG! I really like his potential there a lot. I wouldn't mind him at LG or KO at LG. I sort of like both for different reasons. KO could just slide over to LT if Monroe gets hurt. I don't think Hurst can play LT but perhaps he could. I think Hurst could play LG or RT, though.

 

I like Cooper and Strong. I really like Strong. A lot.

Hurst can definitely play. One concern is chronic issues from his leg. He broke it pretty badly. A bunch of people had him as like a 3rd or 4th before it happened. Kind of concerning to why he went undrafted. 

 

He can play LG, I don't see him being as good at RG though. K.O. Could play RT or any OG position. Hell I think he could play LT later in his career. We could have a very potent O-Line in a couple of years. Urschel might be a good center. God knows Zuttah isn't gonna last more than a year or so. 

[arnie_uk]

So are their O-linemen and Rbs.

keep telling yourself bama players make better pros. The rest of us will live in the real world

[BmoreBird22]

Man what a jerk thing to say. from a veterinarian no less. Broken legs can end careers and if he was going to play this year he would have been drafted. He's good and will add depth but as far as him seeing playing time. Not until next year.

Don't respond to me or quote me if you're just going to say i don't know something. Especially if it's obvious, I don't think you need to waste your time like that. And it's very off-putting. Not to me but anyone who reads that.

.

No, I don't want other people being misled by info that isn't true. People are likely worried about his ability to get his football legs back under him. He was able to do private workouts, so he's clearly able to workout. The workout didn't go so well because he's likely just getting back to full strength and hasn't played in a while.

This is likely the same as Marlon Brown where teams wanted to be cautious, when in fact, he was ready to go.

Again, don't want you misleading other people

[BmoreBird22]

Hurst can definitely play. One concern is chronic issues from his leg. He broke it pretty badly. A bunch of people had him as like a 3rd or 4th before it happened. Kind of concerning to why he went undrafted.

Do you have a link on the type of fracture it was or a video? I haven't been able to find that

[arnie_uk]

Man what a jerk thing to say. from a veterinarian no less. Broken legs can end careers and if he was going to play this year he would have been drafted. He's good and will add depth but as far as him seeing playing time. Not until next year.

Don't respond to me or quote me if you're just going to say i don't know something. Especially if it's obvious, I don't think you need to waste your time like that. And it's very off-putting. Not to me but anyone who reads that.

I was off the same line of thinking.

[BmoreBird22]

I was off the same line of thinking.

I'm just trying to make sure people don't get incorrect information. Is that such a big deal?

[arnie_uk]

I'm just trying to make sure people don't get incorrect information. Is that such a big deal?

you could have easily debunked his post without being a jerk. Thats why I asked what qualification you hsve because of how you spoke to him, was trying to ensurr you actually at least knew what you were talking about. Which it appears you do

[BmoreBird22]

you could have easily debunked his post without being a jerk. Thats why I asked what qualification you hsve because of how you spoke to him, was trying to ensurr you actually at least knew what you were talking about. Which it appears you do

Yeah, I mean, I could have, and I wish I did, but I'm also dislike seeing people act like they know about something and spew it out like they do, but are in fact wrong. 

[BirdWatcher]

Could we move forward with the o-line discussion now?

Thanks.

[callahan09]

The big improvements that I see are the center (we went from having in my opinion the worst center of the past 5 seasons at least to start 16 games, to this year we should have an above average center), and in coaching.  Last year we had a serious problem with coaching... Caldwell just wasn't suited to the job in the least, whereas this year with Kubiak and his staff we're going to have a very talented, cohesive coaching staff.  Those two improvements will make a huge difference to how this team performs in my opinion.

[BmoreBird22]

Fibula, thigh bone.

Whoops, meant femur, not fibula. Fibula is the outer calf bone. My bad

[NUM4TIC]

you could have easily debunked his post without being a jerk. Thats why I asked what qualification you hsve because of how you spoke to him, was trying to ensurr you actually at least knew what you were talking about. Which it appears you do

Anyone who reads about bones and injuries can be qualified to give their own opinions. You don't need a degree in anything or to even take classes, just knowledge and to simply put it you can achieve any amount of knowledge by just using the internet and reading books from the public library. I mean I read books and a lot of articles on the internet. More than just knowledge it's just a good foundation for anyone who goes weeks and sometimes a month of not working. From what I've read him having a broken leg and not being drafted is a bad sign. I still think he has the ability but chronic issues may be a problem. Which is common for some breaks especially if it isn't clean. I'm just putting those two together.

 

 

Yeah, I mean, I could have, and I wish I did, but I'm also dislike seeing people act like they know about something and spew it out like they do, but are in fact wrong. 

Don't talk to me anymore. Never quote me again. You can take you're own know it all head and stick it up your butt cause that's where it belongs.

 

butt.

 

Self correcting boards man. I didn't say butt butt you get the idea.

[BmoreBird22]

Anyone who reads about bones and injuries can be qualified to give their own opinions. You don't need a degree in anything or to even take classes, just knowledge and quite honestly you can achieve any amount of knowledge by just using the internet and reading books from the public library. I mean I read books and a lot of articles on the internet. More than just knowledge it's just a good foundation for anyone who goes weeks and sometimes a month of not working. From what I've read him having a broken leg and not being drafted is a bad sign. I still think he has the ability but chronic issues may be a problem. Which is common for some breaks especially if it isn't clean. I'm just putting those two together.

Don't talk to me anymore. Never quote me again. You can take you're own know it all head and stick it up your butt cause that's where it belongs.

butt.

Self correcting boards man. I didn't say butt butt you get the idea.

I would still like to know where you got information about the fracture. You said it was bad. Is that a guess or do you really know the details? What type of fracture was it? I'm honestly wondering

[BmoreBird22]

Just found out that Hurst's fracture was a non displaced fracture. Good news

[JoeyFlex5]

our offensive line simply couldn't catch a break last year, KO was playing 50% until he was put on IR, yanda was knicked up, gino probably wouldn't have looked so bad if he had a healthy KO and Yanda next to him, but Shipley was even worse at G than gino was at C. and on top of our interior line being incredibly underwhelming from a physical standpoint, our center couldn't make the calls, the mental aspect wasn't there for him, which led to an injured yanda, and an awful AQ Shipley trying to make up for any of ginos shortcomings.

 

our line last year was honestly more of a freak accident and definitely not the norm, for any team. any offense that went through the injuries we dealt with last year, would've had the same problems.

[BmoreBird22]

our offensive line simply couldn't catch a break last year, KO was playing 50% until he was put on IR, yanda was knicked up, gino probably wouldn't have looked so bad if he had a healthy KO and Yanda next to him, but Shipley was even worse at G than gino was at C. and on top of our interior line being incredibly underwhelming from a physical standpoint, our center couldn't make the calls, the mental aspect wasn't there for him, which led to an injured yanda, and an awful AQ Shipley trying to make up for any of ginos shortcomings.

 

our line last year was honestly more of a freak accident and definitely not the norm, for any team. any offense that went through the injuries we dealt with last year, would've had the same problems.

Agree 100% with this

[Joe5Flacco]

The Jaguars released Guard Will Rackley today, started 11 games last year & he's only 24. Can't say I noticed him last year but given age he could be worth a look.

[ravensnick]

keep telling yourself bama players make better pros. The rest of us will live in the real world

I didn't say that at all, I'm just saying their are Bama busts on both sides of the ball. There are also (granted, not as many) solid Bama players as well.