Ravens UDFA's 2014

[Gordo52]

our bank account cares about reputation, if we take him and he screws us, ticket sales go down, we have to cut him leaving us with dead money, etc

If we sign him long term and does something, then he screws us. Signing him now and him messing up wouldn't affect us.

[allblackraven]

He had 11 receptions for 80 yds at UNLV last year. can someone say name brand only?

Kid is listed as WR/DB. From little video I glanced at, he was mostly ST guy, returns kicks and blocks well on ST. Hard to gauge the speed but looks to be like his dad - not the fastest guy on the field but can cut on the run. Elusive.

[BalloutRaven21]

3) "Lardarius or web" Lardarius Webb is one person...Flacco could go down at any time as well, leaving Tyrod as the starter? no thanks, great athlete, not a great QB

4) Asa could become a good player, in fact he could be great, he's only 24, has NFL experience and has shown flashes of being extremely good

5) The fact that you are arguing that Brown is not a serviceable #3 shows that you 'know nothing" - your words not mine. I'd much rather have Chykie in the #3 spot with actual NFL experience and being serviceable than some rookie who went undrafted. Every QB will target our #3 just like Flacco targets #3s all the time, every QB will go after the weakest link, its balanced out by the fact that he will be on their #3 WR, he doesnt have to be able to cover Megatron or Gordan or any other #1 or #2, all he has to do is cover another team's 3rd option and he is more than capable of doing that

Ok your taking to another level, If flacco goes down the season is over no if's and but's no back qb is gonna do anything about that. 2) Asa could be come a good player, but i think we just throw him in and jus wait for him to become good, and dont forget he's already had one drug suspension, who knows if he gets another one he could be out for the season.

3) I think Chyie only the has the potential ok #3 at best, it would be better if would have added someone with more talent, but what do i know, its not a passing league or anything....

4) You said he doesn't have to be able to guard Megatron or any #1 what happened last year when Megatron lined up in the slot 2 or three times against Graham, He was wide open, but thankfully he dropped those ones. You can't say he wont have to guard #1 because sometimes they have to when they line up in the slot. When that time comes where he does guard a #1 it could be a touch down.

5) We want Webb in the slot because he plays better there, and if we want him to play slot and he does, Chykie will be seeing the oppositions #1 50% of the time.

Those are the reason why I think we should add more depth to are cbs and stop saying well no 6 rd cbs will help us, remember this draft is one of the deepest we seen so sum of the cbs we past on would have gone 3rd or 4th in other draft. Have you been watching the draft they have been talking about how deep the draft was almost everyday.

[ravensnick]

Ok your taking to another level, If flacco goes down the season is over no if's and but's no back qb is gonna do anything about that. 2) Asa could be come a good player, but i think we just throw him in and jus wait for him to become good, and dont forget he's already had one drug suspension, who knows if he gets another one he could be out for the season. 

3) I think Chyie only the has the potential ok #3 at best, it would be better if would have added someone with more talent, but what do i know, its not a passing league or anything....

4) You said he doesn't have to be able to guard Megatron or any #1 what happened last year when Megatron lined up in the slot 2 or three times against Graham, He was wide open, but thankfully he dropped those ones. You can't say he wont have to guard #1 because sometimes they have to when they line up in the slot. When that time comes where he does guard a #1 it could be a touch down.

5) We want Webb in the slot because he plays better there, and if we want him to play slot and he does, Chykie will be seeing the oppositions #1 50% of the time.

 

Those are the reason why I think we should add more depth to are cbs and stop saying well no 6 rd cbs will help us, remember this draft is one of the deepest we seen so sum of the cbs we past on would have gone 3rd or 4th in other draft. Have you been watching the draft they have been talking about how deep the draft was almost everyday.      

I think you have a valid point, but this is overplayed by know. Let's go back to talking about the UDFAs. Seamster, Hopkins, Boyd, and Hurst could all be great players for us.

[hn68wb4]

Ok your taking to another level, If flacco goes down the season is over no if's and but's no back qb is gonna do anything about that. 2) Asa could be come a good player, but i think we just throw him in and jus wait for him to become good, and dont forget he's already had one drug suspension, who knows if he gets another one he could be out for the season. 

3) I think Chyie only the has the potential ok #3 at best, it would be better if would have added someone with more talent, but what do i know, its not a passing league or anything....

4) You said he doesn't have to be able to guard Megatron or any #1 what happened last year when Megatron lined up in the slot 2 or three times against Graham, He was wide open, but thankfully he dropped those ones. You can't say he wont have to guard #1 because sometimes they have to when they line up in the slot. When that time comes where he does guard a #1 it could be a touch down.

5) We want Webb in the slot because he plays better there, and if we want him to play slot and he does, Chykie will be seeing the oppositions #1 50% of the time.

 

Those are the reason why I think we should add more depth to are cbs and stop saying well no 6 rd cbs will help us, remember this draft is one of the deepest we seen so sum of the cbs we past on would have gone 3rd or 4th in other draft. Have you been watching the draft they have been talking about how deep the draft was almost everyday.      

i never said "no 6th round CBs could help us", i'm saying a 6th rounder (regardless of how deep the draft is) wouldnt be as good of a #3 as Chykie or even Asa. Not even 1st rounders are always able to come in right away, think Jimmy Smith or Dee Milliner (who got benched plenty of times last season). You keep saying its a passing league as if you're the only one who knows that, but what apparently you don't know is that goes both ways, if Flacco goes down and you are ready to just mail in the season shows how much of a fan you really are, our season would be over just like the 2008 Patriots...a backup QB can change that, what if Flacco goes down, you'd be the one saying "oh well at least we have a #3 CB, our #2 QB is no good but we do have a 3rd string CB, SB here we come."

fine, he wouldnt have to guard a #1 or #2 on a regular basis, but using Megatron doesn't help your point, #1's and #2s can't cover Megatron consistently

how can you just throw Asa in and wait for him to be good when you are dead set against having him or Chykie playing #3? his drug suspension wasn't over anything bad, it was proscribed medication, he shouldn't have anymore trouble with it.

everyone knows Webb plays best in the slot, but he is definitely good enough to play on the outside, if Chykie or Asa were to start the season as the #3 there would be no way Webb would be the slot CB, the FO isn't incompetant

[RobFuseRaven]

^We should turn this into a separate thread so the UDFA thread isn't derailed further.

[ravensnick]

^We should turn this into a separate thread so the UDFA thread isn't derailed further.

Agreed

[BirdWatcher]

I'm going to interject and then this thread needs to immediately return to being an UDFA discussion. Venting belongs in the Vent Thread. I mean immediately, too.

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[ravensnick]

Lets actually get back to ravens UDFA. Anyone new?

[D-Rey]

I'm hoping we pick up one of the top CBs left if they haven't been signed yet. I'd say this is the strongest UDFA talent we've seen in a long time.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Lets actually get back to ravens UDFA. Anyone new?

A couple RBs according to the NEPatriots website.

[rmw10]

A couple RBs according to the NEPatriots website.

 

I saw that Fitz Touissant was on a tryout basis.  No clue on that other guy.

[ravensnick]

A couple RBs according to the NEPatriots website.

Thats good, we could use like one more guy at RB.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Ravens:

Terrance Bullitt, LB, Texas Tech

Jeremy Butler, WR, Tennessee-Martin

Jace Davis, WR, Northern Colorado

Parker Graham, OL, Oklahoma State

Derrick Hopkins, DT, Virginia Tech

James Hurst, OT, North Carolina

Tramain Jacobs, CB, Texas A&M

Jamie Meder, DT, Ashland

Zach Orr, LB, North Texas

A.J. Pataiali'i, DT, Utah State

D.J. Roberts, DE, Tennessee-Martin

Sammy Seamster, CB, Middle Tennessee State

Jake Sinkovec, TE, Boston College

Jeremiah Taylor, DE, Marshall

Brett Van Sloten, OL, Iowa

Chris Wade, LB, Miami (OH)

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I was hoping they would add a variety of backs to choose from just in case a worse case scenario happened. Dont wait until end of preseason

[BalloutRaven21]

Sorry the rants boys, it's getting to heated. I'm done talking about Chykie, anyone know if Roberson got picked up by any team yet ? 

[ravensnick]

Sorry the rants boys, it's getting to heated. I'm done talking about Chykie, anyone know if Roberson got picked up by any team yet ? 

Not as of now.He's still there. Purifoy is also back on the board, as is Hampton

[BmoreBird22]

Sorry the rants boys, it's getting to heated. I'm done talking about Chykie, anyone know if Roberson got picked up by any team yet ? 

Haven't seen that he has. Isn't he more of a zone corner than a man corner?

[ravensnick]

Haven't seen that he has. Isn't he more of a zone corner than a man corner?

Yes, but he's talented enough to sign.

[BalloutRaven21]

Haven't seen that he has. Isn't he more of a zone corner than a man corner?

Naw I'm pretty sure off man cover cb, if that makes sense something like Carey Williams but with better ball skills   

[rmw10]

Haven't seen that he has. Isn't he more of a zone corner than a man corner?

 

Yeah he's a zone, off coverage guy.  However, as a UDFA, there's no harm in taking a guy that isn't a terrific scheme fit when he's that talented.

[BalloutRaven21]

He can do both? even better !

[Inqui]

Haven't seen that he has. Isn't he more of a zone corner than a man corner?

We need depth (badly), so as long as he can cover then I'm sold.

[BmoreBird22]

We need depth (badly), so as long as he can cover then I'm sold.

It wasn't a bad thing, just a question for clarity

[T3hRaven]

Yeah he's a zone, off coverage guy.  However, as a UDFA, there's no harm in taking a guy that isn't a terrific scheme fit when he's that talented.

 

Did you miss when Cary Williams was here?  Dude was constantly lined up like 10 yards off the receiver.

[radicals]

Did Joe Don Duncan go undrafted??? Looked good at the combine, kinda surprised if he did

[T3hRaven]

Did Joe Don Duncan go undrafted??? Looked good at the combine, kinda surprised if he did

 

He did go undrafted.  I want to say the Texans signed him.  Someone did, but I can't remember who.

[ravensnick]

He did go undrafted.  I want to say the Texans signed him.  Someone did, but I can't remember who.

Pretty sure it was the Texan.

[T3hRaven]

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider  6m

San Jose State center-guard Ryan Jones didn't pass his Ravens physical today after flying into town. Had a foot surgery last year

 

Interesting development.

[jdynamite]

Apparently hurst handled clowney and limited him as well as any linesman has done in college.

That one game ( the first game of the college season ) actually is what catapulted Hurst into first round projections for the first half of the college season. hurst did block Clowney well, that was also a humid game Clowney and others were cramping late in the game ( that's what jump started the Clowney isn't in shape stuff), but Clowney supposedly had a stomach virus days before the game and missed several practices.

Throughout the season he came back down played solidly solidified himself as 2nd or 3rd guy. ( even with the injury there was no excuse for him to not get drafted ).

This is a steal, I feel that Hurst and TE C.Gillmore somehow got mixed up as to, who should have been 3rd rounder and who should have been signed as undrafted FA.