The Vent Thread 2014 Draft

[ravensdfan]

apparently that rb we drafted was highest rated pass blocker

 

I didn't see anything about highest rated - only that he can chip in on pass pro.

[arnie_uk]

I didn't see anything about highest rated - only that he can chip in on pass pro.

watch the post draft presser

[T3hRaven]

 

Brace yourself Joe, the next one is coming from your right. Nice catch by Marlon, though.

 

That's the only time Ray Rice juked a defender all season.

[redrum52]

That's the only time Ray Rice juked a defender all season.

Classic...

[jazz1988]

We all know Ray can't block. Which of our draft picks is going to help with that?

 

I think it's a little too far to say he can't block because I have seen moments when his blocking  was pretty good.I would say his blocking is inconsistent.

[izvoodoo]

I didn't see anything about highest rated - only that he can chip in on pass pro.

If you saw him at senior bowl practice, you'd be pretty high on his pass blocking.  At least I was.  He really likes to get in a dudes chest, make him pay in the hole.

[The Raven]

watch the post draft presser

 

Or better yet, actually watch tape… Lol.

[arnie_uk]

Or better yet, actually watch tape… Lol.

I haven't bothered to on him. Not sure I will at this stage until I see if he makes it past final cuts

[ravensdfan]

I haven't bothered to on him. Not sure I will at this stage until I see if he makes it past final cuts

 

Don't know why you're waiting on that tape - every one of these guys is going All Pro - smh. It's ridiculous.

[radicals]

We all know Ray can't block. Which of our draft picks is going to help with that?

 

Just a question, but why bother posting when you're nothing but negative? I understand, we didn't get a guy like Sammy Watkins but you could at least be a little optimistic instead of bashing on guys you haven't even seen play yet.

[Cville-Raven]

Just a question, but why bother posting when you're nothing but negative? I understand, we didn't get a guy like Sammy Watkins but you could at least be a little optimistic instead of bashing on guys you haven't even seen play yet.

Yeah its a bit over the top

[ravensnick]

We all know Ray can't block. Which of our draft picks is going to help with that?

Taliaferro is rated very highly as a passblocker. He has good speed for his size (4.54) and strength (18 reps on the bench press) as well has great overall size at 6', 230 LBs. He's going to be the blocker/bruiser for us, something we haven't had since ricky Williams left.

[T3hRaven]

Don't know why you're waiting on that tape - every one of these guys is going All Pro - smh. It's ridiculous.

 

We got two half of famers with our first two picks, I don't know what you have to be upset about.  Clearly other teams have no idea what they're doing, we got the top two talents in the draft.  In Ozzie we trust!

[ravensdfan]

agreed. wouldn't you rather be optimistic and be wrong than be pessimistic and be wrong and an @ hole

 

It's the vent thread. Don't like it, don't read it. Join any myriad of the other threads calling even our UDFAs future Pro Bowlers and drink all the kool aid. 

 

 

 

Our offense was our most needy. Not that our defense didn't have needs  - most notable a CB and an impact FS. We got a FS - not an impact one - but no CB.

 

Oddly - the pick that most ranted about when it happened I understood. I thought we reached for Gilmore but he was a blocking TE - so I understood it even though I felt he'd have been there later on.

[ravensnick]

It's the vent thread. Don't like it, don't read it. Join any myriad of the other threads calling even our UDFAs future Pro Bowlers and drink all the kool aid. 

 

 

 

Our offense was our most needy. Not that our defense didn't have needs  - most notable a CB and an impact FS. We got a FS - not an impact one - but no CB.

 

Oddly - the pick that most ranted about when it happened I understood. I thought we reached for Gilmore but he was a blocking TE - so I understood it even though I felt he'd have been there later on.

Watch Brooks, he should be an impact player. Not the best hands, but he makes plays. Solid coverage, elite speed, solid tackling. Just because he didn't go first round doesn't mean his not a great player. We couldn't go WR in the first after Beckham got picked and I wouldn't have taken any of the guys in the second ahead of jernigan. Remember, Wrs take time to develop in the NFL, so these aren't immediate impact guys. We have a solid corp in Steve, Torrey, Marlon, Pitta, Daniels, and Rice. Campanero could develop to be a great draft pick at WR for us as well. We could use a CB, but I do like Chykie. He could excel as #3 CB. Graham has pretty much a career STer before he got here. With KO, if Hurst or Wagner don't impress during the summer, we can move KO to RT and plug in Gradkowski at guard (or urshel if plays well). Don't forget that FA is equal to the draft and we improved heavily there.

[ravensdfan]

We got two half of famers with our first two picks, I don't know what you have to be upset about.  Clearly other teams have no idea what they're doing, we got the top two talents in the draft.  In Ozzie we trust!

 

You're mistaken. It's 3 Pro Bowlers, a star in this league and 3 starters from UDFA. (that I've seen).

 

He actually does. We know what Jernigan/Mosely can do, but Brooks is another guy who  is plug and play and I think an eventually Pro Bowler

 

 

 

 

 

[T3hRaven]

You're mistaken. It's 3 Pro Bowlers, a star in this league and 3 starters from UDFA. (that I've seen).

 

I can't complain about the Brooks pick.  The first two picks were what bothered me, the rest of the draft was par for the course.

[ravensnick]

You're mistaken. It's 3 Pro Bowlers, a star in this league and 3 starters from UDFA. (that I've seen).

Look, Brooks is a guy I love. He probably should have gone mid second, but with the run on safeties in the first, no teams really needed one. i said he has potential to play at a pro bowl level down the line in 3-4 years. Is that really that crazy?

[Cville-Raven]

Look, Brooks is a guy I love. He probably should have gone mid second, but with the run on safeties in the first, no teams really needed one. i said he has potential to play at a pro bowl level down the line in 3-4 years. Is that really that crazy?

Yes because he fell there for a reason…

[ravensnick]

I can't complain about the Brooks pick.  The first two picks were what bothered me, the rest of the draft was par for the course.

I'll just say offensive players went flying off the board in the first and you don't pass on first round talent at d-line to get a mid to late second round talent receiver in the second. 

[ravensnick]

Yes because he fell there for a reason…

Good players fall all the time. See Rodgers, Aaron.

[Cville-Raven]

Good players fall all the time. See Rodgers, Aaron.

you didn't pick up the sarcasm

[ravensdfan]

I can't complain about the Brooks pick.  The first two picks were what bothered me, the rest of the draft was par for the course.

 

It may all come to pass - who knows.

 

I guess I am the only one here who is old enough to remember 2006 - arguably better than our 2000 defense - when it just wasn't enough to overcome poor offensive play once the post season came around.

 

Then waiting around for a franchise QB for all those years.

 

Now that we have one - we hang him out to dry and don't give him support around him. It is balance that wins championships. And we're out of balance right now.

[ravensnick]

It may all come to pass - who knows.

 

I guess I am the only one here who is old enough to remember 2006 - arguably better than our 2000 defense - when it just wasn't enough to overcome poor offensive play once the post season came around.

 

Then waiting around for a franchise QB for all those years.

 

Now that we have one - we hang him out to dry and don't give him support around him. It is balance that wins championships. And we're out of balance right now.

Just because we don't draft a high receiver every year doesn't mean that we are hanging Flacco to try. this receving corp is probably his best ever.

[SecretAgentMan]

You're mistaken. It's 3 Pro Bowlers, a star in this league and 3 starters from UDFA. (that I've seen).

I think Hurst will be a starter if he can get in shape.. There's a good reason, seeing as many had him as a day two pick before the injury.

 

Mosley might be a pro bowler, as might Timmy(I loved Timmy though), but that's about it. Ursachel(or however you spell his name), will start games, but never be first on the depth chart bc of KO. Brooks will play immediately, and might be good, but never a pro bowler. Gilmore is a future TE #2 who will get playing time his rookie year seeing as Owen never makes it through a full season. Camp might be a starting slot WR when Steve leaves. 

 

Again, Kubiak made Slaton look good. Who the RB is isn't my concern. But because of it Lorenzo might be a starter(I would've rather have Seastrunk... We screwed up there). 

 

Urban will be a rotational linemen with the chance to start soon. 

 

All in all, we filled no needs, but the draft itself wasn't terrible. Mosley being a potential future star is about the only thing right. Jernigan is talented enough to be a future pro bowler(again, I liked him a lot before we drafted him), but in all liklihood he won't be. Brooks should be an immediate starter(since we have no depth there). Other than that, the players should be contributors, but not what we needed. 

[T3hRaven]

I just  say offensive players went flying off the board in the first and you don't pass on first round talent at d-line to get a mid to late second round talent receiver in the second. 

 

You're entitled to have that opinion.  I don't like what I've seen of Jernigan and the analysts I trust seem to be very down on him.  Reports are he gets winded easily, and he doesn't seem to impact the game very often outside of the National Championship.  He's certainly not a scheme fit.  If we were going 4-3 it would at least make a little sense, but then they go and draft Urban who's a pure 5-tech.  And to top it all off, I don't see an appreciable difference between him and Brandon Williams, so at least one of those is a wasted pick.

[ravensnick]

I think Hurst will be a starter if he can get in shape.. There's a good reason, seeing as many had him as a day two pick before the injury.

 

Mosley might be a pro bowler, as might Timmy(I loved Timmy though), but that's about it. Ursachel(or however you spell his name), will start games, but never be first on the depth chart bc of KO. Brooks will play immediately, and might be good, but never a pro bowler. Gilmore is a future TE #2 who will get playing time his rookie year seeing as Owen never makes it through a full season. Camp might be a starting slot WR when Steve leaves. 

 

Again, Kubiak made Slaton look good. Who the RB is isn't my concern. But because of it Lorenzo might be a starter(I would've rather have Seastrunk... We screwed up there). 

 

Urban will be a rotational linemen with the chance to start soon. 

 

All in all, we filled no needs, but the draft itself wasn't terrible. Mosley being a potential future star is about the only thing right. Jernigan is talented enough to be a future pro bowler(again, I liked him a lot before we drafted him), but in all liklihood he won't be. Brooks should be an immediate starter(since we have no depth there). Other than that, the players should be contributors, but not what we needed. 

What did we "need"? FS yes, OT depth as well, but outside of that we really "needed" nothing.

[ravensnick]

You're entitled to have that opinion.  I don't like what I've seen of Jernigan and the analysts I trust seem to be very down on him.  Reports are he gets winded easily, and he doesn't seem to impact the game very often outside of the National Championship.  He's certainly not a scheme fit.  If we were going 4-3 it would at least make a little sense, but then they go and draft Urban who's a pure 5-tech.  And to top it all off, I don't see an appreciable difference between him and Brandon Williams, so at least one of those is a wasted pick.

I see a major difference. Williams is 30 lbs heavier, stronger, Jernigan is much more athletic. They have two completely different play styles and fill two completely different roles. I think if we stick to a 3-4, Williams takes over Ngata's position and Jernigan can definitely play end. In a 4-3, Jernigan plays 3-tech and Williams 1-tech. Don't forget, Ngata, Canty, and  Daryl Smith are up there in age and ngata/Canty couldn't even make it through the whole season.

[SecretAgentMan]

What did we "need"? FS yes, OT depth as well, but outside of that we really "needed" nothing.

FS

Slot CB

Starting WR

RT

 

So out of all of these which did we fill?

 

FS.

DAMNIT.

 

Granted, we potentially got a good one, but Flacco has nothing at WR if one of the Smiths go down. WE ARE SCREWED if that happens. 

 

We got good talent. But we didn't fulfill many needs. 

 

Camp won't start this year in all liklihood. And he's STRICTLY slot.

No CB drafted

Hurst might be the RT but is an unknown. 

[T3hRaven]

you didn't pick up the sarcasm

 

Someone else is playing Sarcastaball?  I thought I was the only one.

 

Just because we don't draft a high receiver every year doesn't mean that we are hanging Flacco to try. this receving corp is probably his best ever.

 

I don't see how washed up Steve Smith, one trick pony Jacoby Jones, one trick pony Torrey Smith, and Marlon "Can't Beat Man Coverage" Brown doesn't count as hanging him out to dry at receiver.  Definitely not better than Mason, Boldin, and Housh, at least those guys could catch outside of the playoffs.  In a better scheme, that would have been a good offense, but Cam insisted on sending slow guys on 9 routes.  But I digress.  If this was New England where they invested heavily in the OL, sure I'd absolutely be on board with you.  If Flacco had time to throw it wouldn't be as big of an issue.  But they didn't.  We got an average to below average center, an unproven player at LG who the fans are pretending is Evan Mathis, and athletically limited fifth round draft pick at RT.  Heck, even Yanda was bad last season.  Forgive me for not wearing the purple glasses here, but I don't see any reason to be optimistic about next year.  

 

It's not even about that though, it's about building for future years, and I think the FO did a piss poor job of setting the offense up to develop in the years to come.