Draft a Franchise: Discussion

[-Truth-]

I like this idea a lot actually

It's a quality idea.

[NFLfan123]

Missed the response. I wonder what was said. On a different note, if there's enough interest at the end, like there was last season (and enough time), we should consider expanding. I can't assume it will be the case this year, but there was enough in 2013 for a separate forum to be created just for over 20 teams to continue participating.

Agreed

[-Truth-]

Agreed

Thank you.

[Mt. Crushmore]

I'm not a fan of that idea.  Some people opted to go very young last year and included many rookies on their team.  Having the rookies available at anytime makes team building a lot easier.  I've debated doing an all-rookie team if I get a low pick in the first round here.  Rookies should be allowed to be picked at anytime.  We are starting after the draft and not before like other ones that did an all-rookie draft afterwords.

[Mt. Crushmore]

28 people by my count.  4 more to go!

[arnie_uk]

I dont like splitting rookies either. I mean we just done a rookie draft.

[-Truth-]

I'm not a fan of that idea.  Some people opted to go very young last year and included many rookies on their team.  Having the rookies available at anytime makes team building a lot easier.  I've debated doing an all-rookie team if I get a low pick in the first round here.  Rookies should be allowed to be picked at anytime.  We are starting after the draft and not before like other ones that did an all-rookie draft afterwords.

That's a valid point. After further thought, I will concur with you. Though I do like the initial interest of a longer process.

[T3hRaven]

That's a valid point. After further thought, I will concur with you. Though I do like the initial interest of a longer process.

 

There will be people dropping out even with a shorter process.

[52520Andrew]

IMO, which probably isn't worth much but whatever lol, but back on track, we just did a rookie draft in the Forum Mock so I can't say I will be in the mood to do it again. Also, guys like Clowney could go relatively early in this process and I don't think it is fair to lump all the rookies together considering they have a wide range that they can go through. Maybe a team takes Manziel with the #1 overall pick I know Skip Bayless certainly would lol. Oh and another thing I wouldn't mind is us being able to go all the way to 53, people could drop out as we go but I would want to fill out an entire roster although this is my first time playing this game so we might already do that lol

[Sizzlebshu]

The San Diego Super Sloths were clearly the best team last year, Clearly their QB evaluator is a genius

[Sizzlebshu]

Nick Foles for MVP 2014

[Mt. Crushmore]

I just feel that segregating the rookies out limits people building their team the way they want to.

[Sizzlebshu]

Rookies should not be segregated out. This is a moronic idea. Even in a year where prospects are this good, there is still an inherent risk in drafting them. Using rookies as franchise cornerstone pieces could doom franchises that choose to do so. Given this is a mock with a 1 year limit teams should be built to win now. Setting up for the future is a pointless endeavor in this game as everything is erased after 1 year. 

[rmw10]

Rookies should not be segregated out. This is a moronic idea. Even in a year where prospects are this good, there is still an inherent risk in drafting them. Using rookies as franchise cornerstone pieces could doom franchises that choose to do so. Given this is a mock with a 1 year limit teams should be built to win now. Setting up for the future is a pointless endeavor in this game as everything is erased after 1 year. 

 

I disagree with this.  The point is to build a franchise, not a one year wonder.

 

EDIT: Just to reference and make clear what I said a couple of posts down.  I don't mean you shouldn't build a team solely for one year, but that it's not the only option.

[Sizzlebshu]

I disagree with this.  The point is to build a franchise, not a one year wonder.

Well unless you can convince the same 32 people to play the game year after year (or to at least keep the same roster year after year), this is a one-year game where everyone's job is on the line as a GM. It makes absolutely 0 sense to do this (in terms of the game) when the board gets reset next year. It pretty much defeats the purpose of the game to keep rosters as essentially it becomes a rookie draft year after year. While I choose to play the game with the longevity of my franchise in mind, there is no incentive for others to do so. 

[berad]

You can build the team however you want!

[rmw10]

Well unless you can convince the same 32 people to play the game year after year (or to at least keep the same roster year after year), this is a one-year game where everyone's job is on the line as a GM. It makes absolutely 0 sense to do this (in terms of the game) when the board gets reset next year. It pretty much defeats the purpose of the game to keep rosters as essentially it becomes a rookie draft year after year. While I choose to play the game with the longevity of my franchise in mind, there is no incentive for others to do so. 

 

I think it's at someone's discretion.  Not every team is going to be able to be built to win now.  It's just not possible with the number of quality starting QB's being far less than the number of teams.  If some teams choose to look at this game with an eye to the future, so be it.  I don't think there's a correct way to do this.  The game is to build a franchise, not a team.

[Mt. Crushmore]

You can build the team however you want!

 

This

[rmw10]

So I'm curious to see if I'm overthinking this...

 

Should the length of contract matter?  I know that we aren't doing anything involving the salary cap, but for the sake of a franchise, I should do my best not to draft a whole bunch of guys who will have their contracts expire at the end of the year, correct?

[Sizzlebshu]

You can build your team, however you want, but that doesn't mean that its good General Management to do so. This is a bit off topic from my OP because I wasn't trying to tell people how to build their teams. I was just trying to illustrate that segregating the rookies is a bad idea since I consider it (with well formulated logic and reasoning) to be poor play for the health of the franchise to use them as cornerstones over vets (even if the vet is average at best). 

 

Not getting a QB in R1 does not mean you can't build a good/winning franchise. See my team last year. So I refuse to see that as an excuse as to why you can't build to win now. 2 years ago the 49ers basically illustrated the same thing with Alex Smith (as did KC last year). Is it ideal? Of course not. Everyone wants an A-Rod or a Brady, but its far from impossible, 

 

Again, I'm not trying to sound as if I'm telling people how to play the game, but segregating rookies because people will basically cave if they get a low pick and throw any chance at winning now away is a ludicrous idea and is imo extremely poor General Management as it does absolutely nothing to guarantee future success. 

[arnie_uk]

So I'm curious to see if I'm overthinking this...

Should the length of contract matter? I know that we aren't doing anything involving the salary cap, but for the sake of a franchise, I should do my best not to draft a whole bunch of guys who will have their contracts expire at the end of the year, correct?

who cares lol. Im not sure anyone goes that In depth

[PuRock]

Yes, just because this game isn't continued year-after-year, you can still draft with the future in mind.  If not, what's the point of drafting any rookie?

 

I could see myself for sure going 100% win-now, if I draft Peyton Manning.  Might as well pull an Elway. 

[rmw10]

who cares lol. Im not sure anyone goes that In depth

 

Lol I thought I was overthinking it.  I'll probably consider it, but I'll also assume that everyone of my guys on one-year deals will want to re-sign (at extreme team-friendly rates) with a fantastic franchise that has a PB&J Sandwich as a mascot.

[SecretAgentMan]

I'm for keeping rookies.... 

[berad]

Again, I'm not trying to sound as if I'm telling people how to play the game, but segregating rookies because people will basically cave if they get a low pick and throw any chance at winning now away is a ludicrous idea and is imo extremely poor General Management as it does absolutely nothing to guarantee future success.

Agree with having the draft as an all-inclusive thing. There will be good, rookie starters in the league in 2014.

[NFLfan123]

This isn't a one year thing. This is called draft a "franchise", not a team.

[T3hRaven]

You can build the team however you want!

 

Does that mean I can draft Lebron in the first round?

[NFLfan123]

Does that mean I can draft Lebron in the first round?

Can we draft CFL players?

[SecretAgentMan]

Does that mean I can draft Lebron in the first round?

 

Jon bon jovi #1 overall!

[T3hRaven]

Can we draft CFL players?

 

 

Now you're just being ridiculous.