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Brady Quinn: Imagine the Franchise if they had Drafted Him.

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I dread the thought, but in a recent interview on The NFL Network, Quinn said the Ravens were prepared to trade up to the 23rd spot (from the 29th) to draft him after slipping well past his anticipated spot in the 2007 draft.  He was on the phone with the Ravens for a long while and he recounted that they had worked out a deal with KC to move into the 23rd overall.  

 

Literally at the last minute he got a call from Cleveland (who traded up to #22 to usurp Baltimore.  That one minute made all the difference in the history of the Ravens.  Had Quinn landed here it would've set events into motion and prevented others and we would've have seen an entirely different Baltimore team.  One very likely without Joe Flacco.  Also, Billick may've been retained to offer continuity to the young QB preventing the Harbaugh hire and subsequent 5 year play-off streak and the the Super Bowl title may not have happened.  There may've then been a slew of head coaches and quarterbacks in and out of the team.

 

Consider ourselves lucky to have had such a great wingman in the Browns to take that bullet for us.  The Ravens are a great organization, but I don't believe Quinn would've been much better than Boller considering his fragility and his lack of passion.  Quinn has had several chance to catch on elsewhere after maturing in the league several years but never caught on.  Ozzie's rep as a GM would've taken a big hit and instead of saying "In Ozzie We Trust" it could've been "In Ozzie We Rust".

 

Thank God for Cleveland.

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Cleveland killed the kid.

True. Who knows what he does on a different timeline. Or anyone else for that matter.
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Well, you know, the Ravens have made it clear that they want to bring in a QB to compete with Tyrod Taylor for the #2 QB slot. Brady Quinn is a free agent...........just sayin'

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No Super Bowl that is for sure.

 

Another note from this draft: after this the Ravens wanted Joe Staley, OT, Central Michagan, but the 49ers traded up to the pick in front of Baltimore and took him, leaving the Ravens with Ben Grubbs.

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Who does draft Flacco in this scenario? I wonder what would have become of him. Perhaps a team that didn't need him to start immediately like Philly.

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Who does draft Flacco in this scenario? I wonder what would have become of him. Perhaps a team that didn't need him to start immediately like Philly.

 

He might have ended up a career backup behind an entrenched QB, everyone thought he was a reach when we picked him.

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Well, you know, the Ravens have made it clear that they want to bring in a QB to compete with Tyrod Taylor for the #2 QB slot. Brady Quinn is a free agent...........just sayin'

I know Quinn is on their list.  Unless someone offers him more than us, we could see him in Black & Purple for training camp and he'd prolly com at the vet minimum.

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He might have ended up a career backup behind an entrenched QB, everyone thought he was a reach when we picked him.

Considering the next QB taken was Brian Brohm by GB, you may be right. However, Chad Henne got taken just after that, so you never know. Henne is still in the league and competing for a starting job. Brohm, I believe, works at the dry cleaners around the corner from me.

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Who does draft Flacco in this scenario? I wonder what would have become of him. Perhaps a team that didn't need him to start immediately like Philly.

 

Wouldn't it be ironic if:

CLEVELAND-BROWN-JOE-FLACCO-CELEBRATES-SU

(* note the orange and brown stripes on the sleeve.)

 

In Bizarro World the Ravens have Quinn and the Browns have Flacco and the rest is Bizarro history.

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Cleveland killed the kid.

 

Pretty much.  I remember the games against him and the browns.  They gave him absolutely no shot.   Neither did any of his teammates.

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Considering the next QB taken was Brian Brohm by GB, you may be right. However, Chad Henne got taken just after that, so you never know. Henne is still in the league and competing for a starting job. Brohm, I believe, works at the dry cleaners around the corner from me.

 

Flacco landed in an ideal scenario with no competition at QB and a strong ground game and defensive unit, Brady Quinn went to Cleveland. I think success or failure largely depends on the situation, even moreso than the talent.

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Who does draft Flacco in this scenario? I wonder what would have become of him. Perhaps a team that didn't need him to start immediately like Philly.

 

My two best bets would have been Miami and, shocking to say it now, but Green Bay.  Remember both of them drafted QBs in the second round that year, Henne and Brohm. Miami also had the second pick in the first round and took a DE there - it wouldn't have surprised me to see him taken with Miami's first second round pick that year.  By the draft, Joe was clearly seen as the second best prospect behind Matt Ryan by most scouts and analysts.  

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Flacco landed in an ideal scenario with no competition at QB and a strong ground game and defensive unit, Brady Quinn went to Cleveland. I think success or failure largely depends on the situation, even moreso than the talent.

I think Cam Cameron was a great part of helping Flacco find his feet too.

 

On Quinn, he might have done alright in purple. Billick might have had an interesting offence in mind, and they'd likely have sat him behind behind McNair and Boller in 2007 anyway - as Harbs meant to do with Flacco. JO retires so Ozzie possibly looks at Brandon Albert or Ryan Clady. Round two we look for an RB.

 

So assuming he sticks around, we might actually have a 4th and a 5th this year. :P

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I think Brady Quinn may have done well. He's a decent WCO guy, and that's the system Billick ran. Boller failed because he had no touch or accuracy. If I remember correctly, those were two areas Quinn was at the every least adequate in. The franchise would be very different, but I don't think it would have been tragically worse. 

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It's actually just occurred to me:

 

If Quinn gets benched in 2007, we get an LT in the 08 draft and Quinn looks semi-decent as a starter in 2008, we don't need to worry about LT or QB in 2009. No Michael Oher, so Clay Matthews isn't out of the question.

 

With Clay Matthews, we already have a pass rusher so don't trade back for Sergio Kindle in 2010, and probably don't take Upshaw either (Alshon Jeffrey?).

 

I know I'm assuming we finish in the same spots and all, but still.

 

Mind = blown.

 

(ED: Yes I know I just went full "N if L". I regret nothing)

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I think Brady Quinn may have done well. He's a decent WCO guy, and that's the system Billick ran. Boller failed because he had no touch or accuracy. If I remember correctly, those were two areas Quinn was at the every least adequate in. The franchise would be very different, but I don't think it would have been tragically worse.

I agree, but I think a few Flacco lovers are gonna say "no waaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!".

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I agree, but I think a few Flacco lovers are gonna say "no waaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!".

 

I honestly think we would have been able to do as well as we did with Joe. Quinn has everything Boller didn't, and he would have had a similar supporting cast. I think Quinn would have found legitimate success with us.

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Only Doctor Emmett Brown could tell us how it could have turned out differently...

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I agree, but I think a few Flacco lovers are gonna say "no waaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!".

Lets just say that given Quinn's history, I'm glad we didn't have to find out.

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He might have ended up a career backup behind an entrenched QB, everyone thought he was a reach when we picked him.

The person that pushed bringing Flacco in was Cam Cameron.  It is said that he was the one who took Ravens scouts to Delaware to watch Joe throw....  I have known that for quite some time.

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My two best bets would have been Miami and, shocking to say it now, but Green Bay. Remember both of them drafted QBs in the second round that year, Henne and Brohm. Miami also had the second pick in the first round and took a DE there - it wouldn't have surprised me to see him taken with Miami's first second round pick that year. By the draft, Joe was clearly seen as the second best prospect behind Matt Ryan by most scouts and analysts.

The more I think about it, I'd bet he would have winded up with one of the Florida teams. Probably Miami, but the Bucs would have also been a possibility. They also drafted a QB, and they were a team we felt we needed to trade up in front of to get Flacco in the first round.

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I agree, but I think a few Flacco lovers are gonna say "no waaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!".

There's no question Quinn would have more success in Baltimore, but do we really need to talk bad about people on here who think Flacco is better than Brady Quinn. C'mon, man. All the talk about how ridiculous the "lovers" are in their arguments, don't you think comparing him to Brady Quinn is just as ridiculous?

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The person that pushed bringing Flacco in was Cam Cameron. It is said that he was the one who took Ravens scouts to Delaware to watch Joe throw.... I have known that for quite some time.

The one good thing he did while with our team lol. Oh what could've been if he had the imagination he had in SD we wouldn't have had 4 Super Bowl Crowns by now.

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Well IDK if we'd have won a Superbowl - several of those key deep throws are something maybe 1 or 2 other quarterbacks besides Joe could have made.  Quinn may have done marginally better here, but if I remember correctly the big concern about him was his accuracy, and that pretty much held up in Cleveland.  To be fair he had no talent around him in Cleveland, but he was still beat out for the job by Derek Anderson 3 years in a row.

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Just think - if we drafted Quinn instead of Flacco, Flacco wouldn't be in Baltimore and therefore actually get some credit for being good!

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Just think - if we drafted Quinn instead of Flacco, Flacco wouldn't be in Baltimore and therefore actually get some credit for being good!

Or even less than he currently gets. Yikes!

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The person that pushed bringing Flacco in was Cam Cameron.  It is said that he was the one who took Ravens scouts to Delaware to watch Joe throw....  I have known that for quite some time.

If Quinn is drafted in the Billick era, does the Harbaugh era even get started?  Bringing in a new QB might've saved his job for a season or two.  No Harbaugh...no Cameron.

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