Is Flacco FINALLY gaining respect from the media? This is weird

[SecretAgentMan]

I was with you all the way, until you said "Luck is the only other potential elite QB" other than Peyton and Rodgers. Dear god SAM....

IK you like RG3. Can't stay healthy. Luck is in a terrible situation with an alcoholic owner who can't build a team, yet he's clutch, can make all the throws, and is a hard guy to sack. He's also damn good at reading coverages and recognizing plays. Why he was so highly touted coming out of college. In 2-3 years, if he continues progressing at the rate he is,  he might be the best QB in the NFL. That's how much I like him. 

[ravensnick]

Ok, rant time.

My opinion on Flacco has changed over the past month. I still think he's a very good QB who's been there and done that. People who say he's "marginally talented" or "overrated" have no idea what they are talking about. But I can see why they think that. He was terrible last season at times, and for the one or two games he did look good, it wasn't the best we've ever seen him. He had his worst season since his rookie year, which is saying a lot. Sure, a ton of it had to do with the supporting cast, seeing as with a semi decent supporting cast(a mediocre oline, and some good but not great options at WR), he went super sayan 4 and won a SB. Basically because he willed it. Let's face it, Boldin may have taken it to another level in the postseason, but there are several other WRs I would trust over him. 

 

Nevertheless, we missed Boldin, and that made things harder for Flacco, and while he still would've had his worst season ever without him, we would've made the playoffs if not for our "offensive line". 

 

Now, I still think he was worth $120 million. If you win a SB, and it's bc of you, you've proven you deserved it. 

 

But Flacco proved one thing, he's not elite. You know what, that's ok. I see two elite QBs in this game. Peyton(who gets a bad wrap), and Rodgers. Those two are easily the two best QBs in the game. Brady proved to me that he was more of a "system kind of guy"(which Joe was called by our own Ray Lewis last season). He SUCKED, and made the postseason based off of playing a crap division. The only other potential elite QB in the NFL is Andrew Luck, who'd I take over Flacco in a heartbeat. 

 

 

Then what is Flacco? Unlucky. That's what he is. He deserves a bad media wrap, he's inconsistent as all hell. However, he has proven one thing. If the game is on the line, then he's gonna kick butt. Or it's an important game, then he's gonna dominate. This is shown by his clutch level of play in the playoffs. He turns into a different player because he understands it's all or nothing. And I've seen Joe Flacco blow a game maybe once or twice. 

 

Far as I'm concerned, there are three tiers of QBs

Elite(Rodgers, Manning)

Second Tier, meaning good enough to win a SB(Brees, Brady, Ben, Rivers, Flacco, Wilson, Romo, Eli, Luck, Cutler, Kaepernick, Ryan)

And then there's everyone else, who's either unproven(Newton, RG3, Tannehil who gets a bad wrap) or just plain old bad/overrated(Stafford is the perfect example of this, Dalton, Palmer)

 

So as far as QBs go? Flacco is good. We ain't going to replace him, and he will be here for a long time. Is he elite? No, but that's not a bad thing. He's proven he can go out an win a SB. That isn't a fluke. If Evans doesn't drop the pass we at least GET there. If you can get there, it's 50-50 that you can win. So then alone Flacco proved he can win a SB. 

 

But I think what gets the "Flacco lovers" is the lack of respect he gets from our own fanbase. Basic economics dictates that he was worth the money. Supply and demand in the NFL. You need a franchise QB to win a SB. A team without one and with the cap space, would've paid him something similar to what he got($120 million... That should damn the "he wasn't worth the money he got"). 

 

He's good enough to win a SB. All you should care about if your a fan, and that's good enough for me. 

As much as I hate a certain Ugg wearing QB, to say IMO the 3/4th best Qb of all time (Unitas, Montana, Peyton/Brady) is a "system based QB" is basically saying every QB ever was a "system based QB". Brady also had the second best passing season ever and has won 3 out of 5 SBs. Brees and Brady are elite Qbs. Wilson is like the 8-9th best QB as well. the D and running game won that SB. Strongly disagree that Joe can never be an elite QB. Look at Joe's season compared to Brady's, Bree's, rodger's, and Manning's first couple years. 

[flynismo]

IK you like RG3. Can't stay healthy. Luck is in a terrible situation with an alcoholic owner who can't build a team, yet he's clutch, can make all the throws, and is a hard guy to sack. He's also damn good at reading coverages and recognizing plays. Why he was so highly touted coming out of college. In 2-3 years, if he continues progressing at the rate he is,  he might be the best QB in the NFL. That's how much I like him. 

I would probably take Luck over RG3.

 

But my personal rule of thumb is, no QB can be even considered in the same breath with guys like Manning or Brees, etc, until they have played a bare minimum of 5 years, but preferably 7 or 8.

[SecretAgentMan]

As much as I hate a certain Ugg wearing QB, to say IMO the 3/4th best Qb of all time (Unitas, Montana, Peyton/Brady) is a "system based QB" is basically saying every QB ever was a "system based QB". Brady also had the second best passing season ever and has won 3 out of 5 SBs. Brees and Brady are elite Qbs. Wilson is like the 8-9th best QB as well. the D and running game won that SB. Strongly disagree that Joe can never be an elite QB. Look at Joe's season compared to Brady's, Bree's, rodger's, and Manning's first couple years. 

Brady is the most overrated QB of all time

 

Peyton

Unitas

Montana

Marino(who changed the game so the lack of rings is ignored)

Elway

Aikman

 

Were all better. Brady, like Flacco, needs great talent around him in some way to succeed. When he won the SBs, that talent was on the defense. Brees got going once he got into Sean Payton's system. Both are great, but Peyton is one of those players who makes everyone around him better, Rodgers is too. Brady for years had Welker(best slot WR in the NFL for a long time, and still holds that title), Moss(Future HOF). Then he had Gronk/Hernandez/Welker. He had great weapons when he set those records. When he won the SB he had great defenses. He played adequately enough but those defenses helped him big time. But he never made his weapons look great. Brees is in a genius system, and while he has proven he can be great, he's in a pass happy offense with the likes of Colston, Graham, in the past Shockey, Sproles, Moore. Guys who've proven they can excel. 

 

Manning made his guys. Sure, Harrison was great, so was Wayne. I doubt they'd be hall of famers without Peyton. Thomas while a physical freak is one of the more overrated WRs in the NFL. Manning makes him a lot better.Clark looked like crap when he went away, I'm pretty sure Julius Thomas wouldn't be that good without him. You can pretty much stick anyone with actual hands around Peyton and he'd succeed.

 

Same goes for Rodgers too. He can make any WR look good. Don't believe me. Look at Jarret Boykin. 

 

Brady has never done that. Branch was a pretty decent WR in his own right and a SB MVP, Welker and Moss are/were great, Gronk and Hernandez and Watson were all good TEs.

 

Elite means that they make everyone around them better. Brady proved this season that he doesn't do that. Brees didn't do that until he was put into Payton's system. 

 

Are they still great? Yes, they're still better than Flacco, but that System and them can coexist to work. Peyton and Rodgers aren't system based. They're such students of the game that with a small matter of time they could probably make any system(except the Pistol) work. Brady can't, Brees can't. 

[flynismo]

As much as I hate a certain Ugg wearing QB, to say IMO the 3/4th best Qb of all time (Unitas, Montana, Peyton/Brady) is a "system based QB" is basically saying every QB ever was a "system based QB". Brady also had the second best passing season ever and has won 3 out of 5 SBs. Brees and Brady are elite Qbs. Wilson is like the 8-9th best QB as well. the D and running game won that SB. Strongly disagree that Joe can never be an elite QB. Look at Joe's season compared to Brady's, Bree's, rodger's, and Manning's first couple years. 

 

Well, every QB is a system QB. Peyton wouldn't last a month over in Philly (exaggeration, yes, but you catch my drift). No QB will fulfill his potential if he isn't in a system that brings the best out of him

[SecretAgentMan]

I would probably take Luck over RG3.

 

But my personal rule of thumb is, no QB can be even considered in the same breath with guys like Manning or Brees, etc, until they have played a bare minimum of 5 years, but preferably 7 or 8.

I respect that rule and typically I agree with, but Luck is a lot better than a typical sophomore should've been. He's an exception to the rule. He at times plays like a long time NFL vet. 

Only reason why I say potentially is that in 2-3 years I think he can get there. Not NOW.

[flynismo]

Brady, like Flacco, needs great talent around him in some way to succeed.

 

Manning made his guys. Sure, Harrison was great, so was Wayne. I doubt they'd be hall of famers without Peyton. Thomas while a physical freak is one of the more overrated WRs in the NFL. Manning makes him a lot better.Clark looked like crap when he went away, I'm pretty sure Julius Thomas wouldn't be that good without him. You can pretty much stick anyone with actual hands around Peyton and he'd succeed.

Harrison and Wayne were 1st round picks for a reason. I dont buy for a second that Peyton 'made' them. Peyton is like everyone else; if you don't put quality talent around him, you wont get the best out of him

[ravensnick]

Brady is the most overrated QB of all time

 

Peyton

Unitas

Montana

Marino(who changed the game so the lack of rings is ignored)

Elway

Aikman

 

Were all better. Brady, like Flacco, needs great talent around him in some way to succeed. When he won the SBs, that talent was on the defense. Brees got going once he got into Sean Payton's system. Both are great, but Peyton is one of those players who makes everyone around him better, Rodgers is too. Brady for years had Welker(best slot WR in the NFL for a long time, and still holds that title), Moss(Future HOF). Then he had Gronk/Hernandez/Welker. He had great weapons when he set those records. When he won the SB he had great defenses. He played adequately enough but those defenses helped him big time. But he never made his weapons look great. Brees is in a genius system, and while he has proven he can be great, he's in a pass happy offense with the likes of Colston, Graham, in the past Shockey, Sproles, Moore. Guys who've proven they can excel. 

 

Manning made his guys. Sure, Harrison was great, so was Wayne. I doubt they'd be hall of famers without Peyton. Thomas while a physical freak is one of the more overrated WRs in the NFL. Manning makes him a lot better.Clark looked like crap when he went away, I'm pretty sure Julius Thomas wouldn't be that good without him. You can pretty much stick anyone with actual hands around Peyton and he'd succeed.

 

Same goes for Rodgers too. He can make any WR look good. Don't believe me. Look at Jarret Boykin. 

 

Brady has never done that. Branch was a pretty decent WR in his own right and a SB MVP, Welker and Moss are/were great, Gronk and Hernandez and Watson were all good TEs.

 

Elite means that they make everyone around them better. Brady proved this season that he doesn't do that. Brees didn't do that until he was put into Payton's system. 

 

Are they still great? Yes, they're still better than Flacco, but that System and them can coexist to work. Peyton and Rodgers aren't system based. They're such students of the game that with a small matter of time they could probably make any system(except the Pistol) work. Brady can't, Brees can't. 

peyton is a great QB, but he need a ring or two before I can call him the best of all time. Also, the brady argument works for Elway (TD did a lot of work for Elway during those runs), Aikman and Montana played for two of the best dynasties of all time would had severally HOFs on their teams. To say Brady need talent around him is a reason to doesn't make sense to me.  Aikman is just outside the top 10 IMO. Elway and Marino fall in between 6 and 10. 

 

And please, NEVER use the logic that certain QBS make their WRs. Its the furthest thing from the truth. Wayne and Harrison could have been HOFs without Peyton. Demariyuis is far from overrated, he would also be a legit threat. Please don't point with his previous number, they were with Tim "Groundball" Tebow. brady didn't have a good WR squad until Moss and Welker came onto his team. And Brady has won 3 super bowl (second most of all time) and has several record seasons. 

 

How can you say Peyton made his WR, then hypocritically say that not even equal level Wrs made Brady? That's just hypocritical 

 

What else does Brady have to prove that he is an elite QB? Does he have to pass for 10,000 yds and 100 tds in a season?

[SecretAgentMan]

Harrison and Wayne were 1st round picks for a reason. I dont buy for a second that Peyton 'made' them. Peyton is like everyone else; if you don't put quality talent around him, you wont get the best out of him

I highly doubt that they would be hall of famers without Manning. Never said they would've been bad, but they wouldn't have been as good without him. 

[Gordo52]

Luck is a special QB, there's no doubt about it. But the supporting cast around him is pretty special too.

Not taking anything from Luck, but Wayne,Hilton,Allen,Fleener,Brazil & Rogers are no joke.

[SecretAgentMan]

Luck is a special QB, there's no doubt about it. But the supporting cast around him is pretty special too.

Not taking anything from Luck, but Wayne,Hilton,Allen,Fleener,Brazil & Rogers are no joke.

You're forgetting Nicks but I wouldn't consider Brazil to be a great WR. Same goes with Rodgers. They did give him weapons, but I don't think Rodgers and Brazil would do well without him. 

 

peyton is a great QB, but he need a ring or two before I can call him the best of all time. Also, the brady argument works for Elway (TD did a lot of work for Elway during those runs), Aikman and Montana played for two of the best dynasties of all time would had severally HOFs on their teams. To say Brady need talent around him is a reason to doesn't make sense to me.  Aikman is just outside the top 10 IMO. Elway and Marino fall in between 6 and 10. 

 

And please, NEVER use the logic that certain QBS make their WRs. Its the furthest thing from the truth. Wayne and Harrison could have been HOFs without Peyton. Demariyuis is far from overrated, he would also be a legit threat. Please don't point with his previous number, they were with Tim "Groundball" Tebow. brady didn't have a good WR squad until Moss and Welker came onto his team. And Brady has won 3 super bowl (second most of all time) and has several record seasons. 

 

How can you say Peyton made his WR, then hypocritically say that not even equal level Wrs made Brady? That's just hypocritical 

 

What else does Brady have to prove that he is an elite QB? Does he have to pass for 10,000 yds and 100 tds in a season?

Um. No. They'd be very good, maybe great. But Manning had a lot to do with their success. Thomas is a stud athlete, but again Manning helps a ton. 

 

Brady has to be able to be as good as Manning/Rodgers are at reading defenses. Have their football IQ which is unparalleled by any QB other than Luck(potentially). Brady and Brees don't have that edge. And quite frankly, that amount of skill with reading defenses is rare. Not a lot of players have it.

 

Am I saying Brady isn't a hall of famer? No, he is, he's won 3 SBs. It's a rule of thumb, you win three you get into the HOF. And Branch was a SB MVP, so he did have SOMETHING. 

 

Brees is a great QB as well, but he's not as good as Manning and Rodgers are in reading defenses. 

 

My point here is that "elite" is overused. There's only two legit players(quarterbacks anyway) that are. The other ones are really good, but not as good as the other two. Rodgers and Peyton are clear cut better than Brees, Brady, Flacco, Luck, Ryan. Not many will argue with that. They have a combined skill set/IQ to prove it.

 

anywho, I'm out.. PEACE(Crowd Cheers!)

[ravensnick]

You're forgetting Nicks but I wouldn't consider Brazil to be a great WR. Same goes with Rodgers. They did give him weapons, but I don't think Rodgers and Brazil would do well without him. 

 

Um. No. They'd be very good, maybe great. But Manning had a lot to do with their success. Thomas is a stud athlete, but again Manning helps a ton. 

 

Brady has to be able to be as good as Manning/Rodgers are at reading defenses. Have their football IQ which is unparalleled by any QB other than Luck(potentially). Brady and Brees don't have that edge. And quite frankly, that amount of skill with reading defenses is rare. Not a lot of players have it.

 

Am I saying Brady isn't a hall of famer? No, he is, he's won 3 SBs. It's a rule of thumb, you win three you get into the HOF. And Branch was a SB MVP, so he did have SOMETHING. 

 

Brees is a great QB as well, but he's not as good as Manning and Rodgers are in reading defenses. 

 

My point here is that "elite" is overused. There's only two legit players that are. The other ones are really good, but not as good as the other two. Rodgers and Peyton are clear cut better than Brees, Brady, Flacco, Luck, Ryan. Not many will argue with that. They have a combined skill set/IQ to prove it.

Please tell me how you know for certain that Wayne and Harrison had NO chance of being HOFs without Manning. How is Brady not elite at reading defensive? He has the 2nd best passing season of all time and has a plethora of over amazing seasons. Branch was a decent receiver but he was nothing without Brady. Three Sb is the second most of all time, don't act like its a common accomplishment. Elite=HOF. Manning, Brady, Rogers=certain HOF. Brees, very good shot. manyw ill argue with you not calling Brady elite. How can you say "Well Brady's football IQ is lacking" with everything he has done in his career. What achievement is he lacking to you? What is the next step he has to take? Brady should be 5th on the all time passer's list after this season (with Brees at 4th). 

[Gordo52]

You're forgetting Nicks but I wouldn't consider Brazil to be a great WR. Same goes with Rodgers. They did give him weapons, but I don't think Rodgers and Brazil would do well without him.

Um. No. They'd be very good, maybe great. But Manning had a lot to do with their success. Thomas is a stud athlete, but again Manning helps a ton.

Brady has to be able to be as good as Manning/Rodgers are at reading defenses. Have their football IQ which is unparalleled by any QB other than Luck(potentially). Brady and Brees don't have that edge. And quite frankly, that amount of skill with reading defenses is rare. Not a lot of players have it.

Am I saying Brady isn't a hall of famer? No, he is, he's won 3 SBs. It's a rule of thumb, you win three you get into the HOF. And Branch was a SB MVP, so he did have SOMETHING.

Brees is a great QB as well, but he's not as good as Manning and Rodgers are in reading defenses.

My point here is that "elite" is overused. There's only two legit players(quarterbacks anyway) that are. The other ones are really good, but not as good as the other two. Rodgers and Peyton are clear cut better than Brees, Brady, Flacco, Luck, Ryan. Not many will argue with that. They have a combined skill set/IQ to prove it.

anywho, I'm out.. PEACE(Crowd Cheers!)

Didn't account for Nicks since he hasn't played with him yet. They're great weapons to have as your #3 & 4 WR's and 5th and 6th options.

[BmoreBird22]

I'm going by what the team eventually said the injury was... Coach said he was shocked he came back before the season ended... broken or dislocated toes ... Your choice

 

 

Im tapping out on this subject tho... Just had to say something...The thread is about Flacco getting his props.... And he should

I actually like Matt Ryan (mainly because my brother is a Falcons fan), but he needs to step up more in the playoffs. Who knows, maybe he'll be like Flacco and all of a sudden have that one game that just changes him

[BmoreBird22]

Luck is a special QB, there's no doubt about it. But the supporting cast around him is pretty special too.

Not taking anything from Luck, but Wayne,Hilton,Allen,Fleener,Brazil & Rogers are no joke.

You can even look at Peyton Manning who had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Dallas Clark in their primes. Then he goes to Denver and gets DT, Decker, Welker, and Julius Thomas.

Can a quarterback make his weapons better? Absolutely, but not to the point that they could do it alone

[SecretAgentMan]

You can even look at Peyton Manning who had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Dallas Clark in their primes. Then he goes to Denver and gets DT, Decker, Welker, and Julius Thomas.

Can a quarterback make his weapons better? Absolutely, but not to the point that they could do it alone

Actually that was more or less what I was going for. I couldn't figure out a way to phrase it better. 

[flynismo]

I highly doubt that they would be hall of famers without Manning. Never said they would've been bad, but they wouldn't have been as good without him. 

Why do you doubt that? Harrison was one of the best route runners in the game, very quick on the field and had the best hands of any WR in a generation that included Randy Moss, TO, Torry Holt, Steve Smith and quite a few other big time players.

Reggie Wayne's hands are probably just as good as Harrsion's were, and is a great route runner himself. And put up over 100 receptions and his second highest yardage total the year Peyton left.

[hawkprey]

You can even look at Peyton Manning who had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Dallas Clark in their primes. Then he goes to Denver and gets DT, Decker, Welker, and Julius Thomas.

Can a quarterback make his weapons better? Absolutely, but not to the point that they could do it alone

People don't believe me when I say we don't have a lot of talent at receiver. Look at any QB in this league - they all have good players to catch the ball. And while receivers don't make the quarterback, they do play a big part in passing stats, and most fans mistakenly equate passing stats with the quarterback.

 

Let's look at how public opinion has changed over the last few years.

 

Rivers was "over the hill" until they got him a new RT, OROY wide receiver and OC in 2013. Two years ago, Calvin Johnson balled out and Matt Stafford was "Top 5". And I'm pretty sure that at some point in 2012, everyone was on the Schaub bandwagon after that 500+ yard game (of which Andre Johnson had 250). Now, after Jamaal Charles and Alshon Jeffery had monster years, the Alex Smith and Josh McCown (seriously?) bandwagons are full steam ahead.

 

"Is Eli better than Peyton?" started up when Victor Cruz broke out, and "Matt Ryan is the next Peyton Manning" when Julio Jones had his first full season. Cam Newton went from rookie sensation to sophomore slacker when age and high expectations caught up to Steve Smith. And Nick Foles? Just look at Riley Cooper and Lesean McCoy's seasons.

 

No QB climbs the ladder of public affection without his receiver or other favorite outlet grabbing his wrist and plowing forward. 

[Inqui]

People don't believe me when I say we don't have a lot of talent at receiver. Look at any QB in this league - they all have good players to catch the ball. And while receivers don't make the quarterback, they do play a big part in passing stats, and most fans mistakenly equate passing stats with the quarterback.

 

Let's look at how public opinion has changed over the last few years.

 

Rivers was "over the hill" until they got him a new RT, OROY wide receiver and OC in 2013. Two years ago, Calvin Johnson balled out and Matt Stafford was "Top 5". And I'm pretty sure that at some point in 2012, everyone was on the Schaub bandwagon after that 500+ yard game (of which Andre Johnson had 250). Now, after Jamaal Charles and Alshon Jeffery had monster years, the Alex Smith and Josh McCown (seriously?) bandwagons are full steam ahead.

 

"Is Eli better than Peyton?" started up when Victor Cruz broke out, and "Matt Ryan is the next Peyton Manning" when Julio Jones had his first full season. Cam Newton went from rookie sensation to sophomore slacker when age and high expectations caught up to Steve Smith. And Nick Foles? Just look at Riley Cooper and Lesean McCoy's seasons.

 

No QB climbs the ladder of public affection without his receiver or other favorite outlet grabbing his wrist and plowing forward. 

Good post. I think the QB and receiver is one of the most symbiotic relationships in the game. No QB can do it alone, but some require different forms and degrees of help.

[beanfigger]

I would probably take Luck over RG3.

But my personal rule of thumb is, no QB can be even considered in the same breath with guys like Manning or Brees, etc, until they have played a bare minimum of 5 years, but preferably 7 or 8.

It's difficult to agree with a firm, hard and fast rule like that to apply to everyone. You have to go case by case. Andrew Luck is clearly special and belongs in discussions like this. Obviously the best QB drafted in the past five years (since Flacco and Ryan), and there is nothing I can see that will prevent his early success to continue.

[flynismo]

It's difficult to agree with a firm, hard and fast rule like that to apply to everyone. You have to go case by case. Andrew Luck is clearly special and belongs in discussions like this. Obviously the best QB drafted in the past five years (since Flacco and Ryan), and there is nothing I can see that will prevent his early success to continue.

I understand your point, but in my view, there wil never, ever be a situation where I compare a guy with two seasons under his belt to guys like Manning, in the context of putting him up there on that level.

Unless it's to say, "he reminds me of Manning in the way he _____".

[Malkavian Raven]

Its a figure of speech only...  nothing more.  don't read too much into it.

 

Mom, when did you become a Mod?

 

Have I been gone that long?

[The Mom Gene]

Mom, when did you become a Mod?

 

Have I been gone that long?

I've seen you on since I became a moderator....  It's been almost a year.

 

(Wow, doesn't seem like that long ago)

 

... and yes, I still feel like Flacco is not getting enough love......

[jimmypowder]

I actually like Matt Ryan (mainly because my brother is a Falcons fan), but he needs to step up more in the playoffs. Who knows, maybe he'll be like Flacco and all of a sudden have that one game that just changes him

Matty Ice showed would he could do with no weapons. Nothing!

[Ravenslifer]

You're forgetting Nicks but I wouldn't consider Brazil to be a great WR. Same goes with Rodgers. They did give him weapons, but I don't think Rodgers and Brazil would do well without him. 

 

 

 

Disagree with Rodgers - dude was a definite first round talent, only reason he went undrafted is because of a string of off the field incidents that got him booted from Tennessee, then he quit on his new team.

[Malkavian Raven]

I've seen you on since I became a moderator....  It's been almost a year.

 

(Wow, doesn't seem like that long ago)

 

... and yes, I still feel like Flacco is not getting enough love......

 

I haven't really been on the forums in a year, more in the PM realm.  Congratulations on the promotion!

 

I'm very leery of any respect that Flacco is given, always seems like a ploy to bring up the "I'd love him if he'd just be consistent" statement.

[1/28/01]

I haven't really been on the forums in a year, more in the PM realm. Congratulations on the promotion!

I'm very leery of any respect that Flacco is given, always seems like a ploy to bring up the "I'd love him if he'd just be consistent" statement.

I'd love him if he'd just be consistent!

[flynismo]

Well, it's official.

 

I would have bet a large sum of money that either Flacco did not make the top 100 players list, or barely crack it if he did (90 -100 range).

 

But even after a disastorous 2013 season, he still got a very impressive ranking of #58 overall. Sure, he dropped 40 spots in one year, and deservedly so, but I thought for sure he'd get snubbed.

 

Looking forward to a top 10 ranking next year after collecting his second SB MVP

[PolishRifle]

Well, it's official.

 

I would have bet a large sum of money that either Flacco did not make the top 100 players list, or barely crack it if he did (90 -100 range).

 

But even after a disastorous 2013 season, he still got a very impressive ranking of #58 overall. Sure, he dropped 40 spots in one year, and deservedly so, but I thought for sure he'd get snubbed.

 

Looking forward to a top 10 ranking next year after collecting his second SB MVP

That's not getting respect from the media, though. That list is made by the players. The media immediatelly started to complain about it.

[ratedr]

Honestly really shocked Flacco made the list. Players are smarter than the media, but still.