Ravens sign TE Owen Daniels

[shaneomatic]

Looking back a few years, did the Falcons need to trade for a WR with Roddy White in his prime?  Surely they had bigger needs, but packaged a ton and got to number 4 I think it was to snag Julio Jones.  Talents like him and Watkins aren't there every year.

 

Also looking if we did get Watkins, we would have him for 4-5 years, Torrey for 4-6 years(assuming he's resigned), Marlon for 3-4 more years, Steve Smith for 2-3 years, Jacoby for 4 years, Pitta for 5 years.  That is incredible in terms of continuity and Joe building that trust.

 

Then when it is time to pay Watkins, Torrey will be 5 years older than he is now, and his contract will be expiring so we can then use big money on Watkins and hopefully get Torrey cheap, and we won't have two big cap numbers for WRs.

[codizzle]

Looking back a few years, did the Falcons need to trade for a WR with Roddy White in his prime? Surely they had bigger needs, but packaged a ton and got to number 4 I think it was to snag Julio Jones. Talents like him and Watkins aren't there every year.

Also looking if we did get Watkins, we would have him for 4-5 years, Torrey for 4-6 years(assuming he's resigned), Marlon for 3-4 more years, Steve Smith for 2-3 years, Jacoby for 4 years, Pitta for 5 years. That is incredible in terms of continuity and Joe building that trust.

Then when it is time to pay Watkins, Torrey will be 5 years older than he is now, and his contract will be expiring so we can then use big money on Watkins and hopefully get Torrey cheap, and we won't have two big cap numbers for WRs.

Yes and that's part of the main reason the falcons have little to almost no talent on their team outside of WR

[Militant X 1]

I didn't neg it, but I do think his post was a bit overstating.  Joe's more mobile and can make throws under pressure on the run, but I don't want this to turn into a Flacco thread.

 

Good signing.  One year, prove it deal to a guy who knows Kubiaks system.

 

See, that's just it!  1/28/01 wasn't trying to make this thread about Joe.  He simply commented about "when" Joe has time to throw...he's awesome!  And "when" he doesn't....he's awful!  That's truth!  It was in reference to Joe having all of these new weapons now (i.e. Pitta's back, Jacoby's back, Steve Smith, Marlon Brown and now Owen Daniels).  We should see more productivity!

 

#Mili

[rmw10]

Looking back a few years, did the Falcons need to trade for a WR with Roddy White in his prime?  Surely they had bigger needs, but packaged a ton and got to number 4 I think it was to snag Julio Jones.  Talents like him and Watkins aren't there every year.

 

Also looking if we did get Watkins, we would have him for 4-5 years, Torrey for 4-6 years(assuming he's resigned), Marlon for 3-4 more years, Steve Smith for 2-3 years, Jacoby for 4 years, Pitta for 5 years.  That is incredible in terms of continuity and Joe building that trust.

 

Then when it is time to pay Watkins, Torrey will be 5 years older than he is now, and his contract will be expiring so we can then use big money on Watkins and hopefully get Torrey cheap, and we won't have two big cap numbers for WRs.

 

They had the right idea, but they picked a poor time to do it.  Teams can afford to make a move like that when they are one piece away from a serious championship run.  The Falcons weren't there yet when they made that move.  If they had bided their time a bit and used those picks to fill out the rest of the roster and they had made a trade like that for Watkins this year, they'd really be a team to worry about.

 

With that being said, I'm not sure the Ravens are in that position yet.  We have too many holes to use that many high picks on 1 player.  I don't see Watkins as the difference between us and the championship.  As much as I'd love to have him here, I don't think it's the best move right now.

[The Raven]

See, that's just it!  1/28/01 wasn't trying to make this thread about Joe.  He simply commented about "when" Joe has time to throw...he's awesome!  And "when" he doesn't....he's awful!  That's truth!  It was in reference to Joe having all of these new weapons now (i.e. Pitta's back, Jacoby's back, Steve Smith, Marlon Brown and now Owen Daniels).  We should see more productivity!

 

#Mili

 

You have a firm grasp of the obvious, good sir lol!

[shaneomatic]

They had the right idea, but they picked a poor time to do it.  Teams can afford to make a move like that when they are one piece away from a serious championship run.  The Falcons weren't there yet when they made that move.  If they had bided their time a bit and used those picks to fill out the rest of the roster and they had made a trade like that for Watkins this year, they'd really be a team to worry about.

 

With that being said, I'm not sure the Ravens are in that position yet.  We have too many holes to use that many high picks on 1 player.  I don't see Watkins as the difference between us and the championship.  As much as I'd love to have him here, I don't think it's the best move right now.

 

Very well said, I hadn't really thought of it from that angle.  

[Dr. Kelley]

Let go of anquan boldin to "get younger" on offense. Since then, sign brandin stokely, dallas clark, steve smith and owen daniels. Ummmm... ok whatever works there bud.

[ravensdfan]

Just so long as Flacco stays upright, has time and can progress through his reads. Not that this is anything new here. Give the dude time, wow. Have him flustered even a hair, yikes!

 

Actually I thought the horrible O line play forced Flacco to improve a lot in that area. He made a lot more plays with his legs and was much better extending plays moving away from pressure then in past seasons. If only his targets didn't drop so many.

 

This is a good signing. I guess Dickson should have jumped on the offer the Ravens sent him.

 

I'm excited for our offense already - and we still have the draft.

 

We still need an FS IMO.

[Dr. Kelley]

Wait wait I mispoke.... let go of boldin for cap room.... to sign.... michael huff and marcus spears!

[Militant X 1]

You have a firm grasp of the obvious, good sir lol!

 

Well, I try to do, what I do, when I can do it!

 

#Mili

[Gtown Purple]

Good backup and also allows us flexibility in formations. I see alot of multi TE sets in our future.

[BmoreBird22]

See, that's just it!  1/28/01 wasn't trying to make this thread about Joe.  He simply commented about "when" Joe has time to throw...he's awesome!  And "when" he doesn't....he's awful!  That's truth!  It was in reference to Joe having all of these new weapons now (i.e. Pitta's back, Jacoby's back, Steve Smith, Marlon Brown and now Owen Daniels).  We should see more productivity!

 

#Mili

Pretty sure that's just about every single quarterback, so I'm not sure why people would get upset

[Sami84]

Let go of anquan boldin to "get younger" on offense. Since then, sign brandin stokely, dallas clark, steve smith and owen daniels. Ummmm... ok whatever works there bud.

 

before the move happens, feel free to criticize. Once ozzie makes the move, the rule of this forum is simple. Homerism is not only tolerated, it's the only way

 

I see your point. A lot of stop gap options and older players and yet people here claiming we need to get younger.

[Hardbaugh]

Looks like a very solid move. Lots of weapons, a fantastic offensive minds. I have hope that Flacco will have his best season. (not a prediction)  If we witness no progression we should hear no excuses.

[1/28/01]

Looks like a very solid move. Lots of weapons, a fantastic offensive minds. I have hope that Flacco will have his best season. (not a prediction) If we witness no progression we should hear no excuses.

I feel gross saying this, but I agree. Ahhhhhh!!!!!

[RobFuseRaven]

Let go of anquan boldin to "get younger" on offense. Since then, sign brandin stokely, dallas clark, steve smith and owen daniels. Ummmm... ok whatever works there bud.

 

He wasn't let go to get younger. He was let go so they could afford to rebuild the defense. Albeit Huff and Spears weren't good signings, but they felt it was necessary.

[rmw10]

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora  1m

Ravens got Owen Daniels at a bargain price - $1M base salary with another $1M available in incentives. No guarantees

[Bravens292]

 

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora  1m

Ravens got Owen Daniels at a bargain price - $1M base salary with another $1M available in incentives. No guarantees

 

 

Ozzie and Pat are on a roll right now. sweet!

[flynismo]

Holy crap, so we signed him for nothing. This was highway robbery

[Ravenslifer]

Let go of anquan boldin to "get younger" on offense. Since then, sign brandin stokely, dallas clark, steve smith and owen daniels. Ummmm... ok whatever works there bud.

 

You know why we released Boldin - had nothing to do with age, and everything to do with money, just like this deal and Steve Smith, and those other guys.  We're bringing in vets on the cheap, plus it doesn't hurt that Daniels already knows Kubiak's system.  I may not agree with the philosophy completely, but it's clear we're bargain hunting.

[RavensNation14]

Excellent signing by Ozzie. Bring's in a veteran who has played for Kubiak his whole career and made two pro bowls with him. He's not going to be a #1 TE, but one of the best #2's in the league IMO. He has soft hands and knows how to move the chains. I still can't believe we signed him for $1M a year.... thats crazy. He's good for 40-50 catches and 2-3 touchdowns, but I think he can be a reliable 3rd down target though. 

[Guest RBates]

Solid player with very good hands. Lets go Ravens, now we have added another legitimate receiving threat.  

[Purple_ICE 81]

I think you and I have two very different opinions of ASJ. I don't think it makes sense to argue it further because I think our opinions are so far off we won't come to an agreement. Suffice to say I disagree with quite a bit of your comments in this post as well as your next post. I think ASJ is a fine blocker and better than Ebron in that regard. I don't see Ebron as an efficient blocker at all.

Yea ... I just watched some tape and highlights on the dude  a while back and he seems  a little overrated, and it seems that most analysts label blocking on ASJ's biggest need for improvement. He is big bodied and athletic but lacks the elite strength and skill to be a stout blocker from the start.Maybe a decent blocker but not a primary blocker like we need...everyone knows he is a pass catcher first. I also heard Mike Mayock and Todd Mcshay comment on his overall mechanics at the Huskies Proday (even though he didnt workout) and label them as "work in progress". Hell he might not even be asked to block all that often after all the times he was split wide in College...he might just have a Jimmy Graham type role as a primary receiver type duty.

 

Blocking is not a hot spot for ASJ, making him a questionable pickup for us due to the fact that we need a better blocker on our team....someone who is stronger and more consistent. Thats all I was getting at. This guy has some extra baggage with him too (DUI, Multiple Injuries). Im pretty much over all the ASJ hype.

[RavensAllTheWay]

Looks like a very solid move. Lots of weapons, a fantastic offensive minds. I have hope that Flacco will have his best season. (not a prediction) If we witness no progression we should hear no excuses.

Can't argue with that

[Alaska Alaska!]

LOL, I love this quote from Daniels!

 

Baltimore Ravens ‏@Ravens  2m

Owen Daniels on Houston: "I think we’re playing down there this year, so what Steve Smith said about playing in Carolina." #BloodAndGuts

[Ravenseconbeast]

You know why we released Boldin - had nothing to do with age, and everything to do with money, just like this deal and Steve Smith, and those other guys. We're bringing in vets on the cheap, plus it doesn't hurt that Daniels already knows Kubiak's system. I may not agree with the philosophy completely, but it's clear we're bargain hunting.

Not bargain hunting. These are quality players. We just happen to be the right organization for these players to settle on a low price.

Almost every player we took from this off season are taken below market. Just one of the perk being a long winning organization.

[ravensdfan]

I feel gross saying this, but I agree. Ahhhhhh!!!!!

Weird off season hahahaha

 

It IS the most sensible thing he's ever posted here though!

[Militant X 1]

Looks like a very solid move. Lots of weapons, a fantastic offensive minds. I have hope that Flacco will have his best season. (not a prediction)  If we witness no progression we should hear no excuses.

 

But you know the excuses will fly regardless!  They always do! 

 

#Mili

[Ravenslifer]

Not bargain hunting. These are quality players. We just happen to be the right organization for these players to settle on a low price.

Almost every player we took from this off season are taken below market. Just one of the perk being a long winning organization.

 

I'm just saying, 2-3 years ago, you don't get these guys for this kind of deal.  Suddenly they're "too old" for most teams to throw coins at.  Nobody's going to sign them to a long-term big deal, and we can offer them something most teams can't - a stable organization with a clear direction, and a team that has enjoyed a lot of recent post-season success.  We jettisoned Boldin because we didn't like his cap number, and whether that was the right decision or not, we now have Steve Smith and Owen Daniels for less than what Boldin would have made last year.  That's what I mean - quality players at an affordable price.

[Gordo52]

But you know the excuses will fly regardless! They always do!

#Mili

I think I see what you did there lol... But I agree with Hardbaugh's post. There will always be excuses, but there's also a lot of legitimate reasons that deserve being accounted for. Hard to decipher the line between them sometimes.