Ravens sign TE Owen Daniels

[TDubbs]

 

 

I honestly hope not. He looked to be on the decline with both Arizona and Kansas City. People also complain about Oher having lots of penalties, but over the past three years, Winston had more.

 

 

That legitimately frightens me ... I truly cannot handle another Offensive Lineman with false start issues, it's too much! 

[GrimCoconut]

I would love it if we drafted ASJ in the draft. Perfect addition behind Pitta and Daniels. Perfect.

[Purple_ICE 81]

I would love it if we drafted ASJ in the draft. Perfect addition behind Pitta and Daniels. Perfect.

We need a blocker...not a 3rd pass catcher.

[GrimCoconut]

We need a blocker...not a 3rd pass catcher.

Uh, he can block.

[RavensAllTheWay]

And of course someone negged you for this statement against the golden boy but I got you covered with the +1.  Keep speaking truth!

 

#Mili

 

I didn't neg it, but I do think his post was a bit overstating.  Joe's more mobile and can make throws under pressure on the run, but I don't want this to turn into a Flacco thread.

 

Good signing.  One year, prove it deal to a guy who knows Kubiaks system.

[RaineV1]

Wr really are the Texans east. Pollard, Jacoby, Leach, Daniels, their old HC. No complaints though. See this offense making bigs moves this year. I think Pierce and Pitta will be some of the biggest beneficiaries.

Funny thing is, Texans players seem to play better for the Ravens than they did the Texans. I hope they trend continues with the coaches that came over.

[Free Agent]

Nah, our DBs have pretty soft hands. I think there's hope that somebody will sign Dickson and keep us at the maximum for comp picks, otherwise he probably gets to come to camp and compete for a spot. We are going to carry three TEs if we plan to use two TE sets.

 

We may sign him to compete for a spot, but I guarantee you Dickson will not be one of the three. He cannot block, plain and simple, and our 3rd TE will have to be a blocking TE.

[K-Dog]

Feed has a nice ring to it. Makes a big third-down catch: FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD.

Right. I am a fan of Juice, I was referring to the other guy who I will now refer to as Feed.

Thanks for the help.

[Tenacious Faulker]

We may sign him to compete for a spot, but I guarantee you Dickson will not be one of the three. He cannot block, plain and simple, and our 3rd TE will have to be a blocking TE.

He won;t get resigned and not just for poor blocking.  I heard that the Ravens made Dickson an offer but he could accept it because he kept dropping the calls...

[Ravenslifer]

We could trade this years number one, next years number one (I am saying this under the assumption that we finish with a bottom 5-6 pick) and our third round pick thats tradeable to move into the top 5 to get Watkins.  The value is there, and with us having a comp pick in the 3rd, I think that would be a brilliant move.

 

IDK if they've changed their minds, but several years ago Eric DeCosta was asked about this, and he said the only way they'd ever entertain trading a future first round pick was to move up for a quarterback, like they did for Boller.

[Ravenslifer]

We need a blocker...not a 3rd pass catcher.

 

ASJ is probably the best blocker out of him, Amaro, and Ebron.  Washington ran the ball a lot with Price under center, and ASJ was a huge part of their success.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm not sure why people feel the need to label Amaro a receiving-only TE. Just because Texas tech didn't have him blocking didn't mean he can't.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Uh, he can block.

But its most definitely a weak spot for him...he is not a blocking TE, he is a move TE who excels catching the ball. He has average strength, and average overall skill at blocking. He might be a good pass catcher off the bat...but a work in progress as a blocker which is exactly what we lack in a TE.

[lgcs27288]

IDK if they've changed their minds, but several years ago Eric DeCosta was asked about this, and he said the only way they'd ever entertain trading a future first round pick was to move up for a quarterback, like they did for Boller.

Technically if we traded up for a top tier wide receiver, wouldnt that "be for a qb?" I mean not in the literal sense, but it does give him a tool necessary to succeed. 

[Purple_ICE 81]

ASJ is probably the best blocker out of him, Amaro, and Ebron.  Washington ran the ball a lot with Price under center, and ASJ was a huge part of their success

Not really ...ASJ was used split out wide a lot  and when he was inline he struggled at times...needs to get stronger physically and not just rely on his big 270lb frame.

 

All 3 will take some time to develop into good blockers as most young TEs do...but Id say Ebron is a little better than ASJ  at blocking and is stronger. And there are other guys later on in the draft who we could take who are better blockers than all 3.

[Gordo52]

I'm thinking he'll be a big weapon to have in the redzone. Him & Pitta are going to put up huge stats together. I could see them combining for 10+ TD's and 1,000 yards. I just love him as our #2, it's perfect. Not too worried about not having a true blocking TE, it's adjusting and I'm confident our staff will do so, or the front office supplying one.

Hopeful for no injuries and good chemistry! No more exuses for Flacco not having weapons to throw to. Steve,Torrey,Pitta,Daniels Jacoby and Brown... Maybe another impact player coming from the the draft, and we're all set. On paper it's probably the best looking group of receivers we've ever had.

My expectations for Daniels are probably too high, but It's hard not to be excited over this move. Just can't wait to see what Joe does with a legit #2 TE who can run routes and catch. Daniels is getting up there but playing as the #2 could help relieve it.

[MrDelDante]

Solid player.

 

Draft in CJ now in round 4 and our TE group will be sorted. Pitta, Daniels, CJ Fiedorowicz, Furstenburg (Juice).

 

Frees up the earlier rounds for WR/FS now too.

[Bullrush]

Nice pickup. I really like the way our offense looks right now in terms of the passing game, with Monroe also back. Joe has a decent amount of weapons now. Torrey, Steve, Dennis, Owen, Ray, Jacoby, Marlon, upgrade at center with Zuttah. You add in the draft...I really like our offense on paper so far.

[PolishRifle]

With the Steve Smith and Owen Daniels signings our WR and TE positions got better, but also older. WR and TE remain big needs, just not immediate ones.

[Bullrush]

With the Steve Smith and Owen Daniels signings our WR and TE positions got better, but also older. WR and TE remain big needs, just not immediate ones.

 

I think it's a good thing actually, we need older guys, we have way too many young kids especially at WR/TE.

[RobFuseRaven]

I love this signing. And it's only a year, so if the Ravens did draft a tight end high, it would be nice to have class guys like Pitta and Daniels to learn from.

[Ravenslifer]

Not really ...ASJ was used split out wide a lot  and when he was inline he struggled at times...needs to get stronger physically and not just rely on his big 270lb frame.

 

All 3 will take some time to develop into good blockers as most young TEs do...but Id say Ebron is a little better than ASJ  at blocking and is stronger. And there are other guys later on in the draft who we could take who are better blockers than all 3.

 

That's true - I personally really like the Georgia tight end Lynch

[PolishRifle]

I think it's a good thing actually, we need older guys, we have way too many young kids especially at WR/TE.

 

Yes, but old guys tend to retire/get hurt. Some tend to do that earlier than expected. I think, the Ravens still HAVE to take a WR in this draft and need to look into the TE position as well. The only luxury those recent signings give the Ravens FO is, that the coaches won't have to use that young player immediatelly making someone raw like Kelvin Benjamin a better fit for example. But, that's pretty much it.

 

I think this TE class might be underrated and a very good TE prospect can be found as late as the 3rd round. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised, if WR will start flying off the draft board fast. There are alot of WR needy teams out there and the Ravens are just one of many.

[HoldingCall]

My first impression was "Why?"  Last year the FO reunited Caldwell and Dallas Clark, now it's Kubiak and Owen Daniels. Just not sure I agree with this but admit, I don't know why.

[Bruce_Almty]

... Landry would be good also but we're in need of more Z WR compliment to Torrey.

 

I read that Landry crawled his way to a 4.77 40 and is ranked in the mid-teens of WRs. He falls into the 3rd round comp pick range. Hopefully, imo, we have already drafted our WR b4 then.

[Bruce_Almty]

Nice pickup. I really like the way our offense looks right now in terms of the passing game, with Monroe also back. Joe has a decent amount of weapons now. Torrey, Steve, Dennis, Owen, Ray, Jacoby, Marlon, upgrade at center with Zuttah. You add in the draft...I really like our offense on paper so far.

 

If Ozzie was serious about getting bigger and better up front, add Taylor Lewan and a backup G/T (5th rnd comp pick) and our O-line would be strong.

[GrimCoconut]

But its most definitely a weak spot for him...he is not a blocking TE, he is a move TE who excels catching the ball. He has average strength, and average overall skill at blocking. He might be a good pass catcher off the bat...but a work in progress as a blocker which is exactly what we lack in a TE.

I think you and I have two very different opinions of ASJ. I don't think it makes sense to argue it further because I think our opinions are so far off we won't come to an agreement. Suffice to say I disagree with quite a bit of your comments in this post as well as your next post. I think ASJ is a fine blocker and better than Ebron in that regard. I don't see Ebron as an efficient blocker at all.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Not really ...ASJ was used split out wide a lot and when he was inline he struggled at times...needs to get stronger physically and not just rely on his big 270lb frame.

All 3 will take some time to develop into good blockers as most young TEs do...but Id say Ebron is a little better than ASJ at blocking and is stronger. And there are other guys later on in the draft who we could take who are better blockers than all 3.

Both ebron and asj doesn't block. The coaches at their respective college just stopped trying. They'd be a complete nonfactor when they get to NFL in blocking.

This class in general is a very weak TE/FS class. With Dennis/Owens, its best we avoid FS/TE altogether or add UDFA TE that specializes only in blocking.

[BmoreBird22]

I think you and I have two very different opinions of ASJ. I don't think it makes sense to argue it further because I think our opinions are so far off we won't come to an agreement. Suffice to say I disagree with quite a bit of your comments in this post as well as your next post. I think ASJ is a fine blocker and better than Ebron in that regard. I don't see Ebron as an efficient blocker at all.

Yeah, I don't know what he sees that he's not a blocker. He's a fine inline blocker and doesn't get pushed around nearly as much as Ebron. I actually saw a list that categorized the tight ends and ASJ fell under the blocking tight end category. Amaro was under the all around and Ebron under the joker

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah, I don't know what he sees that he's not a blocker. He's a fine inline blocker and doesn't get pushed around nearly as much as Ebron. I actually saw a list that categorized the tight ends and ASJ fell under the blocking tight end category. Amaro was under the all around and Ebron under the joker

I'd agree with that. I think Amaro is definitely an all around talent. Just because he never blocked doesn't mean he can't