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So yeah, since the year 2000 to present day who would be our All-Century Team? (Only count performances for the Ravens, not performances after or before playing for us)

 

QB: Joe Flacco
FB: Vonta Leach
RB: Jamal Lewis, Ray Rice
WR: Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith
TE: Todd Heap
LT: Jonathan Ogden
LG: Ben Grubbs
C: Mike Flynn
RG: Marshal Yanda
RT: Orlando Brown

DL: Haloti Ngata, Michael McCrary, Kelly Gregg
ILB: Ray Lewis, Bart Scott
OLB: Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Adalius Thomas

CB: Lardarius Webb, Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Dawan Landry

K: Matt Stover
P: Sam Koch

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So yeah, since the year 2000 to present day who would be our All-Century Team? (Only count performances for the Ravens, not performances after or before playing for us)

 

QB: Joe Flacco

FB: Vonta Leach

RB: Jamal Lewis, Ray Rice

WR: Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith

TE: Todd Heap

LT: Jonathan Ogden

LG: Ben Grubbs

C: Mike Flynn

RG: Marshal Yanda

RT: Orlando Brown

DL: Haloti Ngata, Michael McCrary, Kelly Gregg

ILB: Ray Lewis, Bart Scott

OLB: Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Adalius Thomas

CB: Lardarius Webb, Chris McAlister

FS: Ed Reed

SS: Dawan Landry

K: Matt Stover

P: Sam Koch

 

 

So guys like Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson don't count?

Are we talking Prime Time or the Roll player Deion we had.

Also, Rod Woodson is certainly the second best safety we've ever had.  

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So guys like Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson don't count?

 

They count, but only insofar as their performances as Ravens.

 

On that note...

SS: Ed Reed

FS: Rod Woodson

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Are we talking Prime Time or the Roll player Deion we had.

Also, Rod Woodson is certainly the second best safety we've ever had.

I think I might have misunderstood what meant because there's no way you leave Prime Time out, but I think he meant just during their times as a Raven, now that I look at it
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How many more seasons like the past two before Tucker gets considered? 3? 5? He's awesome, but I know Stover was the man for a long time.

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Boldin ahead of Mason.

 

No way man.

 

Boldin had his moments, but Mason holds that special place in the pantheon of Ravens recievers.

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So guys like Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson don't count?

Deion sanders was way past his prime w/ ravens

Rod woodson was a stud though

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Hard to argue with OP's list

 

Jamal and Ray are pretty close, Jamal's big advantage comiing in TDs but Ray has him beat on all-purpose yardage, I believe

 

Move Reed to SS and put Woodson in for FS

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Love Yanda but I'm gonna have to stick with Mulitalo as our best guard. Skill wise they are/were similar but Mulitalo was/is just an awesome guy with a big heart and a great attitude. He's done so many good things in Baltimore for the people and fans. Pure class.

 

Just brings back so many memories. I'll never forget the unique relationship these guys had. Him, Jon Ogden, Mike Flynn, Zeus, they were like brothers. Never seen a bond like that again in football. Mike Flynn talking on the sideline to Ogden about how he smacked Ted Washington's facemask and was afraid to go back (jokingly) on the field was just priceless. :D

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I have a few comments now that I am finally out of class.

First, I'd honestly do three receiver or two tight ends on this list because that's a full starting offense that way, or do both. You have backups for OLB and RB, so why not else where?

McCrary would likely be an outside linebacker in the 3-4, so you might want to shuffle that. And how could we pass up on either Sam Adams or Tony Siragusa. Those are the big bodies you need in the 3-4 to allow the linebackers to wreak havoc. Also, at left guard, I'd put Mulitalo.

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Justin tucker best kicker in NFL last two years. I pick him over m.stover who was always just above average

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Justin tucker best kicker in NFL last two years. I pick him over m.stover who was always just above average

And if Tucker is still as good 5-6 years from now, then yes, I would agree. Stover played 19 seasons, and is 12th most accurate kicker in history.     A strong arguement could be made for each.

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So yeah, since the year 2000 to present day who would be our All-Century Team? (Only count performances for the Ravens, not performances after or before playing for us)

 

FB: Vonta Leach

DL: Haloti Ngata, Michael McCrary, Kelly Gregg

 

Personally..I would put LeRon Mcclain over Leach at FB. We got some quality years out of Mcclain and I used to love those days of the "three headed monster" that we used to run...McGahee, Rice and Mcclain. Mcclain was a good blocker and he could tote the rock too...he put up almost a 1000 yards in 2008 with 11 TDs.

 

Leach was a better FB...but the fact that Mcclain was an in house guy and was still a good FB...I go with Mcclain.

 

And no Goose on the DL?...you gotta put Tony on there. 

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Personally..I would put LeRon Mcclain over Leach at FB. We got some quality years out of Mcclain and I used to love those days of the "three headed monster" that we used to run...McGahee, Rice and Mcclain. Mcclain was a good blocker and he could tote the rock too...he put up almost a 1000 yards in 2008 with 11 TDs.

 

Leach was a better FB...but the fact that Mcclain was an in house guy and was still a good FB...I go with Mcclain.

 

And no Goose on the DL?...you gotta put Tony on there. 

 

 

Although he played in Bmore for only a short time, Lorenzo Neal is by far the best fullback ever to wear a Ravens uniform. Since he wasn't here that long he probably doesn't make the "all century" team. 

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So yeah, since the year 2000 to present day who would be our All-Century Team? (Only count performances for the Ravens, not performances after or before playing for us)

 

QB: Joe Flacco

FB: Vonta Leach

RB: Jamal Lewis, Ray Rice

WR: Derrick Mason,Torrey Smith(Anquan Boldin)

TE: Todd Heap

LT: Jonathan Ogden

LG: Ben Grubbs

C: Mike Flynn(Matt Birk)

RG: Marshal Yanda

RT: Orlando Brown

DL: Haloti Ngata, Michael McCrary(Tony Siragusa), Kelly Gregg

ILB: Ray Lewis, Bart Scott

OLB: Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Adalius Thomas(Mike McCrary)

CB: Lardarius Webb, Chris McAlister

FS: Ed Reed

SS: Dawan Landry

K: Matt Stover

P: Sam Koch

My changes in parenthesis. Too bad you defined the Saf position. I think it should be Reed and R Woodson.

 

It killed me to leave Frank Walker off but you can't include everybody.

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Although he played in Bmore for only a short time, Lorenzo Neal is by far the best fullback ever to wear a Ravens uniform. Since he wasn't here that long he probably doesn't make the "all century" team.

I would still put Neal at full back.

Boldin not in the same conversation as mason. He was a major disappointment 90% of his time here. 3rd WR I would consider ismael. If you could count the 90's Jackson

Center I think birk.

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This line up makes more sense in a 34 with no backups.

DL: Haloti Ngata, Tony siragusa, Kelly Gregg

ILB: Ray Lewis, Peter boulware

OLB: Terrell Suggs, mike mccrary

CB: Sumari Rolle , Chris McAlister

SCB: lardarius Webb

FS: Rod woodson

SS: Ed reed

K: Matt Stover- no argument for tucker. He hasn't come close to the number of clutch kicks.

P: Sam Koch

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Ooooh I forgot about Goose.

How could you forget Goose? He's protecting your manhood!

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How could you forget Goose? He's protecting your manhood!

That commercial is embarrassing.

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So yeah, since the year 2000 to present day who would be our All-Century Team? (Only count performances for the Ravens, not performances after or before playing for us)

QB: Joe Flacco

FB: Vonta Leach

RB: Jamal Lewis, Ray Rice

WR: Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith

TE: Todd Heap

LT: Jonathan Ogden

LG: Ben Grubbs

C: Mike Flynn

RG: Marshal Yanda

RT: Orlando Brown

DL: Haloti Ngata, Michael McCrary, Kelly Gregg

ILB: Ray Lewis, Bart Scott

OLB: Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Adalius Thomas

CB: Lardarius Webb, Chris McAlister

FS: Ed Reed

SS: Dawan Landry

K: Matt Stover

P: Sam Koch

Who would be the Head Coach ? Lol ill say we keep John H. He had amazing success already

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Who would be the Head Coach ? Lol ill say we keep John H. He had amazing success already

No question on HC.

What about DC and OC?

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So yeah, since the year 2000 to present day who would be our All-Century Team? (Only count performances for the Ravens, not performances after or before playing for us)

 

QB: Joe Flacco

FB: Vonta Leach

RB: Jamal Lewis, Ray Rice

WR: Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith

TE: Todd Heap

LT: Jonathan Ogden

LG: Ben Grubbs

C: Mike Flynn

RG: Marshal Yanda

RT: Orlando Brown

DL: Haloti Ngata, Michael McCrary, Kelly Gregg

ILB: Ray Lewis, Bart Scott

OLB: Terrell Suggs, Peter Boulware, Adalius Thomas

CB: Lardarius Webb, Chris McAlister

FS: Ed Reed

SS: Dawan Landry

K: Matt Stover

P: Sam Koch

I would take Pollard over Landry as strong safety or Rod Woodson if eligible. I would like to see Tucker instead of Stover too frankly. Lastly Jimmy Smith gets my nod over Webby. Webby would be my 3rd CB. Where is my return man Jermaine Lewis??
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No question on HC.

What about DC and OC?

Dc- i go with Chuck Pagano

Oc- um jim cadwell lol super bowl win dont happen without him

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Dc- i go with Chuck Pagano

Oc- um jim cadwell lol super bowl win dont happen without him

DC is between Ryan and Lewis. No question.

OC hmm. Wow. I think it has to be Caldwell by default.

HC is a tough call to me. Billick everyone forgets changed the reputation left by the inept browns. He was handed a collection of junk at first. He also was able to navigate some strong personalities all around and battled the rep of being a hated team.

The day he was announced as picking Baltimore over Cleveland was the beginning of the change of reputation in Baltimore. I'll never forget hearing that announcement. I'm not sure some of the younger fans understand what it was like going from 96-00. As I could never fully appreciate what Johnny U was like.

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No question on HC.

What about DC and OC?

Rex and Kubiak haha
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DC is between Ryan and Lewis. No question.

OC hmm. Wow. I think it has to be Caldwell by default.

HC is a tough call to me. Billick everyone forgets changed the reputation left by the inept browns. He was handed a collection of junk at first. He also was able to navigate some strong personalities all around and battled the rep of being a hated team.

The day he was announced as picking Baltimore over Cleveland was the beginning of the change of reputation in Baltimore. I'll never forget hearing that announcement. I'm not sure some of the younger fans understand what it was like going from 96-00. As I could never fully appreciate what Johnny U was like.

As im only 23 im a younger fan but a true fan. I am still a fan of billick but john H success is hard to ignore.

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DC is between Ryan and Lewis. No question.

OC hmm. Wow. I think it has to be Caldwell by default.

HC is a tough call to me. Billick everyone forgets changed the reputation left by the inept browns. He was handed a collection of junk at first. He also was able to navigate some strong personalities all around and battled the rep of being a hated team.

The day he was announced as picking Baltimore over Cleveland was the beginning of the change of reputation in Baltimore. I'll never forget hearing that announcement. I'm not sure some of the younger fans understand what it was like going from 96-00. As I could never fully appreciate what Johnny U was like.

 

 

Billick actually replaced Marchibroda after the first three seasons and I'm not sure you could say that he was handed a "pile of junk".  The offense was pretty good until Vinnie left and was replaced by Jim Harbaugh.  It could be argued that it was much more Marvin Lewis' coaching that put us over the top rather than Billick. Brian's supposed "offensive genius" never came to light while he was with the Ravens.  

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Harbaugh over Billick, just based on how the team performed under him vs under Billick. Under Billick we had some "disastrous" (embarrassing) seasons. Under Harbaugh we have always been a contender.

 

Marvin over Rex. Lewis started this whole thing, and the guys after that just "took over" what was already in place for the most part. Mike Nolan was also very good.

 

Offensive Coordinator - Nobody deserves any "best" title to be honest. I'm sure after this year it will be Kubiak.

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I would still put Neal at full back.

Boldin not in the same conversation as mason. He was a major disappointment 90% of his time here. 3rd WR I would consider ismael. If you could count the 90's Jackson

Center I think birk.

I can't get over this sentence. How the heck was Boldin a major disappointment 90% of his time in Baltimore? The only time he disappointed me was that dropped TD pass vs the Steelers in the playoffs.

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I can't get over this sentence. How the heck was Boldin a major disappointment 90% of his time in Baltimore? The only time he disappointed me was that dropped TD pass vs the Steelers in the playoffs.

Well, you have to consider the expectations for him. When you look at the playoff run, that's what people expected of him. Now, we could argue that he wasn't being utilized in the right way, but he was still not consistently producing at a high level.

I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but I can double check if you want. I believe he had like two or three games of over 80 yards, but like 7 or 8 of under 50 in 2013. He had three games where he scored a touchdown. He just was invisible in the stat sheet and wasn't even consistently drawing the best corner from the opposing team.

He always seemed to disappear for long stretches at a time in the receiving game. Sure, he blocked and was physical, but he just wasn't the number one receiver we were looking for

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Although he played in Bmore for only a short time, Lorenzo Neal is by far the best fullback ever to wear a Ravens uniform. Since he wasn't here that long he probably doesn't make the "all century" team. 

Yea I loved him when he was paving the way for LT....but he was only here for 2008 im pretty sure.

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Well, you have to consider the expectations for him. When you look at the playoff run, that's what people expected of him. Now, we could argue that he wasn't being utilized in the right way, but he was still not consistently producing at a high level.

I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but I can double check if you want. I believe he had like two or three games of over 80 yards, but like 7 or 8 of under 50 in 2013. He had three games where he scored a touchdown. He just was invisible in the stat sheet and wasn't even consistently drawing the best corner from the opposing team.

He always seemed to disappear for long stretches at a time in the receiving game. Sure, he blocked and was physical, but he just wasn't the number one receiver we were looking for

28 catches 620 yards and 6 TDs through 8 playoff games with us...I'll take that over anything "he could have" or "should have been" in the regular season.

 

We wouldnt be super bowl champs without him....he may not have been a number 1 receiver in the regular season like you said...but he was a damn elite juggernaut beast who could not be stopped in the playoffs when everything was on the line.

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Billick actually replaced Marchibroda after the first three seasons and I'm not sure you could say that he was handed a "pile of junk". The offense was pretty good until Vinnie left and was replaced by Jim Harbaugh. It could be argued that it was much more Marvin Lewis' coaching that put us over the top rather than Billick. Brian's supposed "offensive genius" never came to light while he was with the Ravens.

I don't think you can put that on billick. Fact is it's damn hard to find a franchise QB. There is no science to if because so much of it is mental. He brought a lot of innovative ideas for the time nonetheless and yo his credit never forced a square peg in a round hole and based the team on a powerful running game and the nastiest defense of all time. The fans and media desire for that ravens team to be a high flying passing attack made no sense whatsoever. This was not a good defense like the Seahawks this year or the dungy bucs this was an all time rival the bears defense. Once in a lifetime. And while there were some frustrating games penalty wise for a while, I don't recall any emberrasing seasons. Billick kept the team together with Lewis offfield issues. Suggs was extremely Undisciplined early on. And everyone else in the country wanted this team to fail because of this perception of what happened with Cleveland. Everyone.

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I can't get over this sentence. How the heck was Boldin a major disappointment 90% of his time in Baltimore? The only time he disappointed me was that dropped TD pass vs the Steelers in the playoffs.

 

Me neither lol ... That's ridiculous. Boldin turned superhuman during the SB run and we don't win it without him. That alone puts him ahead of anything Mason ever did here (as much as I love Mase).

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Me neither lol ... That's ridiculous. Boldin turned superhuman during the SB run and we don't win it without him. That alone puts him ahead of anything Mason ever did here (as much as I love Mase).

You are going to overlook all of his less than stellar time here for... Not the whole playoff run even. 2 games. Yes he had a few good games otherwise. But he was a reason we lost to Pittsburgh. He never came close to being the go to clutch receiver mason was here. How can you say boldin was better than mason here because the team played better... Most notably flacco and the O-line raised their game to another level.

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I don't think you can put that on billick. Fact is it's damn hard to find a franchise QB. There is no science to if because so much of it is mental. He brought a lot of innovative ideas for the time nonetheless and yo his credit never forced a square peg in a round hole and based the team on a powerful running game and the nastiest defense of all time. The fans and media desire for that ravens team to be a high flying passing attack made no sense whatsoever. This was not a good defense like the Seahawks this year or the dungy bucs this was an all time rival the bears defense. Once in a lifetime. And while there were some frustrating games penalty wise for a while, I don't recall any emberrasing seasons. Billick kept the team together with Lewis offfield issues. Suggs was extremely Undisciplined early on. And everyone else in the country wanted this team to fail because of this perception of what happened with Cleveland. Everyone.

Agreed and I think you affirmed my point. I wasn't criticizing Billick, but I don't think he deserves the bulk of the credit for that early success either. It was Marvin Lewis that made that D one of the best ever and the Ravens would not have seen the SB if it were not for the D.

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Me neither lol ... That's ridiculous. Boldin turned superhuman during the SB run and we don't win it without him. That alone puts him ahead of anything Mason ever did here (as much as I love Mase).

Nope can't agree with that

http://youtu.be/V3vs6zlSN_o

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You are going to overlook all of his less than stellar time here for... Not the whole playoff run even. 2 games. Yes he had a few good games otherwise. But he was a reason we lost to Pittsburgh. He never came close to being the go to clutch receiver mason was here. How can you say boldin was better than mason here because the team played better... Most notably flacco and the O-line raised their game to another level.

 

I never considered any of Boldin's time here less than stellar or a disappointment. Consistent and durable as you would want in a WR. His toughness at the WR position is almost unmatched in the league. All I'm saying is given the choice, I take Boldin all day every day over Mason. Chalk it up to personal preference I suppose. 

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