our history of draft picks 3rd round or later

[52N19]

i think Ozzie is one of the best GM''s and i feel our scouting team is very good but the reality is in the lifetime of the Ravens they have only picked two players in the 3rd round or lower that have become pro bowlers and only 3 who have become good starters.

 

pro bowlers

Yanda - 3rd rounder - 2007

 

Adlaius Thomas - 6th rounder - 2000

 

good starters

 

Pitta - 4th round - 2010

Webb - 3rd rounder - 2009

Pierce - 3rd rounder - 2012

 

i don't see where this is a great track record especially after seeing the low draft picks that excelled for the Seattle Seahawks last season. i know everyone can't be a tom brady 6th round pick but i don't see where we have done such a great job drafting in the later rounds.

 

the whole draft history is on the ravens website. for some reason i can't paste links to this board.

[Sami84]

i think Ozzie is one of the best GM''s and i feel our scouting team is very good but the reality is in the lifetime of the Ravens they have only picked two players in the 3rd round or lower that have become pro bowlers and only 3 who have become good starters.

 

pro bowlers

Yanda - 3rd rounder - 2007

 

Adlaius Thomas - 6th rounder - 2000

 

good starters

 

Pitta - 4th round - 2010

Webb - 3rd rounder - 2009

Pierce - 3rd rounder - 2012

 

i don't see where this is a great track record especially after seeing the low draft picks that excelled for the Seattle Seahawks last season. i know everyone can't be a tom brady 6th round pick but i don't see where we have done such a great job drafting in the later rounds.

 

the whole draft history is on the ravens website. for some reason i can't paste links to this board.

 

Where is the Adalius Thomas of the 2014 draft? anyone?

[Sami84]

i think Ozzie is one of the best GM''s and i feel our scouting team is very good but the reality is in the lifetime of the Ravens they have only picked two players in the 3rd round or lower that have become pro bowlers and only 3 who have become good starters.

 

pro bowlers

Yanda - 3rd rounder - 2007

 

Adlaius Thomas - 6th rounder - 2000

 

good starters

 

Pitta - 4th round - 2010

Webb - 3rd rounder - 2009

Pierce - 3rd rounder - 2012

 

i don't see where this is a great track record especially after seeing the low draft picks that excelled for the Seattle Seahawks last season. i know everyone can't be a tom brady 6th round pick but i don't see where we have done such a great job drafting in the later rounds.

 

the whole draft history is on the ravens website. for some reason i can't paste links to this board.

 

Ozzie is  overrated. However we end up putting a solid team together. You see ozzie was a master up until 2003. Since that draft hes been ok. nothing more nothing less

[bMore Heathen]

i think Ozzie is one of the best GM''s and i feel our scouting team is very good but the reality is in the lifetime of the Ravens they have only picked two players in the 3rd round or lower that have become pro bowlers and only 3 who have become good starters.

pro bowlers

Yanda - 3rd rounder - 2007

Adlaius Thomas - 6th rounder - 2000

good starters

Pitta - 4th round - 2010

Webb - 3rd rounder - 2009

Pierce - 3rd rounder - 2012

i don't see where this is a great track record especially after seeing the low draft picks that excelled for the Seattle Seahawks last season. i know everyone can't be a tom brady 6th round pick but i don't see where we have done such a great job drafting in the later rounds.

the whole draft history is on the ravens website. for some reason i can't paste links to this board.

There are a lot of others. Off the top of my head Art Jones was a 5th, Dwan Landry was a 6th, JJ was a 4th, Le'Ron McLain was a 4th, Aubrayo Franklin was a 6th (or 5th), so it's not like there's only 3 or 4.

[Sami84]

There are a lot of others. Off the top of my head Art Jones was a 5th, Dwan Landry was a 6th, JJ was a 4th, Le'Ron McLain was a 4th, Aubrayo Franklin was a 6th (or 5th), so it's not like there's only 3 or 4.

 

Bart Scott wasnt half bad too. Ozzie was king in the 90's and early 2000's and solid since. However his past 3-4 years have been below average,

[berad]

There are a lot of others. Off the top of my head Art Jones was a 5th, Dwan Landry was a 6th, JJ was a 4th, Le'Ron McLain was a 4th, Aubrayo Franklin was a 6th (or 5th), so it's not like there's only 3 or 4.

Thank you for pointing this out. McClain was a pro bowler too. When I'm not on my phone I'm interested to pull some other names.

[bMore Heathen]

Thank you for pointing this out. McClain was a pro bowler too. When I'm not on my phone I'm interested to pull some other names.

Here's a list of all of our drafts. Highlighted players are still active.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/draft.htm

Edit: in our last 5 drafts, there are only 2 players that aren't active in the NFL. That's pretty impressive. I think our drafts get overlooked because for so many years we had such a veteran team.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Here's a list of all of our drafts. Highlighted players are still active.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/draft.htm

Edit: in our last 5 drafts, there are only 2 players that aren't active in the NFL. That's pretty impressive. I think our drafts get overlooked because for so many years we had such a veteran team.

 

That is pretty impressive...a lot of our players we groomed starts producing at around 3rd or 4th year.   Then most likely than not they are picked up by another franchise for a lot of money.   

Not just players, but lower end coaches that rise through the ranks and become head coaches/ d coord./ o.coord. elsewhere.   

 

Ozzie knows talent.  

[codizzle]

i think Ozzie is one of the best GM''s and i feel our scouting team is very good but the reality is in the lifetime of the Ravens they have only picked two players in the 3rd round or lower that have become pro bowlers and only 3 who have become good starters.

pro bowlers

Yanda - 3rd rounder - 2007

Adlaius Thomas - 6th rounder - 2000

good starters

Pitta - 4th round - 2010

Webb - 3rd rounder - 2009

Pierce - 3rd rounder - 2012

i don't see where this is a great track record especially after seeing the low draft picks that excelled for the Seattle Seahawks last season. i know everyone can't be a tom brady 6th round pick but i don't see where we have done such a great job drafting in the later rounds.

the whole draft history is on the ravens website. for some reason i can't paste links to this board.

Hahaha

[rmw10]

Glad you took the time to do some research before posting. Only forgot like 10 important players it seems.

[izvoodoo]

Ozzie is  overrated. However we end up putting a solid team together. You see ozzie was a master up until 2003. Since that draft hes been ok. nothing more nothing less

You don't deserve this team if you think that.

[0_o]

You have to take into consideration us having to draft late in every round because we're always in the playoffs. The last time Ozzie had high picks to work with we drafted players like Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Jamal Lewis, Chris McAlister, Peter Boulware, Johnathon Ogden. 

 

This is the first time since 2008 that we're not drafting in the 20's. In fact, since 2000 every time we've drafted 18 or higher we've hit on a 10 year player. 

 

Just because every pick in every round isnt a pro bowler or goes on to have an all pro career, doesnt mean we're losing a step. If you compare our drafts to every team in the league over the last 10 years we're in the top 3. The majority of players drafted into the NFL for all teams, are replaced in 3-4 years. It's just the nature of the business. 

[berad]

Here's a list of all of our drafts. Highlighted players are still active.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/draft.htm

Edit: in our last 5 drafts, there are only 2 players that aren't active in the NFL. That's pretty impressive. I think our drafts get overlooked because for so many years we had such a veteran team.

Thank you for the link, PFR is even awesome enough to tell you when the players career stopped, just scrolling through...

Jeff Mitchell, Edwin Mulitalo, Brandon Stokley, AD, Casey Rabach, Ed Hartwell, Chester Taylor, Dave Zastudil + Sam Koch (if you want to count specialists), Jarret Johnson, Ovie Mughelli, Aubrayo Franklin, Tony Pashos, Jason Brown, Derek Anderson (did his best stuff away from us), Dawan Landry, LeRon McClain, Marshal Yanda, Lardarius Webb, etc, etc

That's not even mentioning UDFA players and we all know the gems we've gotten from that.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Ozzie is  overrated. However we end up putting a solid team together. You see ozzie was a master up until 2003. Since that draft hes been ok. nothing more nothing less

 

I guess that Super Bowl team Ozzie built in 2012 was just ok?

[Sami84]

I guess that Super Bowl team Ozzie built in 2012 was just ok?

 

It was ok. Not as good as the 2011 or 2010 team. Flacco got lucky and cashed in. Ozzie has always been a bargain hunter and hes got a great track record in the draft in general. However since 2009 hes not been that good. The 2012 team wasnt that talented but everyone played out of their minds in the playoffs.

 

The best ravens team Ive seen was the 2006 team. We just didnt catch lightening in the playoffs.

[OrganisedChaos2]

Ozzie is  overrated. However we end up putting a solid team together. You see ozzie was a master up until 2003. Since that draft hes been ok. nothing more nothing less

Well seeing as we're never big spenders in FA how do you explain why we're nearly always at the playoffs and have won a super bowl recently? I'll tell you why, we draft extremely solid players in the later rounds, the fact is, is that very few players in the 3rd round or later make the pro bowl.  This isn't even including the UDFA we've hit on like Tucker and Jameel Mcclain.  This is in addition to drafting very well in the first 2 rounds.  Ozzie misses rarely in the first 2 rounds whilst a lot of other teams do.  Only half the players in the first round of a draft make the pro bowl, and even then it's mostly only once.  

[PolishRifle]

It was ok. Not as good as the 2011 or 2010 team. Flacco got lucky and cashed in. Ozzie has always been a bargain hunter and hes got a great track record in the draft in general. However since 2009 hes not been that good. The 2012 team wasnt that talented but everyone played out of their minds in the playoffs.

 

The best ravens team Ive seen was the 2006 team. We just didnt catch lightening in the playoffs.

 

Ozzie is  overrated. However we end up putting a solid team together. You see ozzie was a master up until 2003. Since that draft hes been ok. nothing more nothing less

 Wuh?

[Sami84]

 Wuh?

 

Whats the problem? We havent drafted a superstar player since Ed Reed. 

[SecretAgentMan]

Whats the problem? We havent drafted a superstar player since Ed Reed. 

Suggs

Ngata

Rice

 

May be old now, but were all pros in their primes. 

[Sami84]

Suggs

Ngata

Rice

 

May be old now, but were all pros in their primes. 

none are hall of famers.

 

They are hall of very good

 

Rice not so much

[SecretAgentMan]

none are hall of famers.

 

They are hall of very good

 

Rice not so much

Hall of famers don't grow on trees. We've been lucky to get Ray(considered the GOAT at his position), Ogden(in the running of GOAT at his position) Ed(Also in the running),

Along with Suggs, who if he puts together 2 more good seasons will be there.......

 

I can agree with Ngata though.. He's not HOF material 

[Sami84]

Suggs for me had too many off-seasons in his prime years. He was crazy inconsistant. 1 year he would be epic, the next mediocre and such.

 

Ed is not in the running. He is first ballot sure fire HOF. Our 1996 was the best draft we ever had and a top 5 draft of all time for any team.

 

since 1997, we haven't produced 1 offensive player with HOF potential.

 

Thats bad.

[rayrayven]

Ravens lead NFL in "compensation draft" pics awarded. SInce those are awarded to a team after losing players (that a team drafted and developed) to free agency - it means the Ravens are good at drafting

 

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Wizard-Of-Compensatory-Picks/d6638cb2-c63f-4ea2-a0c2-ac360bfb176c

[redrum52]

Suggs for me had too many off-seasons in his prime years. He was crazy inconsistant. 1 year he would be epic, the next mediocre and such.

Ed is not in the running. He is first ballot sure fire HOF. Our 1996 was the best draft we ever had and a top 5 draft of all time for any team.

since 1997, we haven't produced 1 offensive player with HOF potential.

Thats bad.

I have to disagree. If not for last season, Rice had potential, but I get your point. The offensive side of these ball hasn't looked too good.

[JO_75]

Hall of famers don't grow on trees. We've been lucky to get Ray(considered the GOAT at his position), Ogden(in the running of GOAT at his position) Ed(Also in the running),

Along with Suggs, who if he puts together 2 more good seasons will be there.......

 

I can agree with Ngata though.. He's not HOF material 

 

Just stop feeding the troll. Sami is just a troll as she has been negative about everything(believe me, with Elam going back to his natural SS position, if he turns it around Sami won't give him any credit). This thread is trolling too.

 

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[0_o]

Some people will never be happy and will always find the negatives in life to overshadow the positives. If you're a Ravens fan on a Ravens forum board complaining about draft picks then you might as well give up on football altogether because drafting doesn't get much better than it does here.

 

Oh, by the way, the Cleveland Browns are looking for new whiny fans if you're interested. Heard they enjoy helping each other wipe the tears out of their eyes...

[BloodRaven]

Some people will never be happy and will always find the negatives in life to overshadow the positives. If you're a Ravens fan on a Ravens forum board complaining about draft picks then you might as well give up on football altogether because drafting doesn't get much better than it does here.

 

Oh, by the way, the Cleveland Browns are looking for new whiny fans if you're interested. Heard they enjoy helping each other wipe the tears out of their eyes...

 

No need to be condescending, who are you to judge? theres nothing wrong with saying a bad draft was a bad draft. 

[Tru11]

1996 5th round jermaine lewis- key player on our 1st SB team also pro bowler as a returner

1999 4th brandon stokley and 4th round mulitalo both key players and quality starters.

2000 6th round adalius thomas no explaining needed

2001 4th round ed hartwell good MLB who got paid by atlanta

2002 6th round chester taylor who was a solid back up and had a solid 1st season signed by the vikings

2003 4th round JJ no need to explain

2003 4th round ovie mughlelli pro bowl FB 2010 when signed away by atlanta.

2003 5th round tony pashos decend starter who also played with the browns and jags

2005 4th round jason brown was a solid C with the ravens for 1 season and got paid big my ST Lois where he also was good

2006 5th round dawan landry solid starter got paid by jags

2006 6th round sam koch still on the team and has been 1 of the better punters in the nfl

2007 4th round antwan barnes was a good situational pass rusher who got traded to chargers and had a 11 sack season

2007 4th round leron mclain 2 time pro bowler with the ravens

2007 5th round supplemental draft jared gaither who was good when he wanted to.

2010 4th round dennis pitta nothing to explain

2010 5th round arthur jones nothing to explain

2011 5th round pernell mcphee showed alot of promise but injuries

2011 5th round chykie brown jury still out but has been decend so far.

2012 asa jackson , deanglo tyson, gino  jury still out on these guys

 

there are also alot of undrafted rookies who made the ravens and became quality starters here or somewhere else....

 

only 4th round and later btw.

[52N19]

Some people will never be happy and will always find the negatives in life to overshadow the positives. If you're a Ravens fan on a Ravens forum board complaining about draft picks then you might as well give up on football altogether because drafting doesn't get much better than it does here.

 

Oh, by the way, the Cleveland Browns are looking for new whiny fans if you're interested. Heard they enjoy helping each other wipe the tears out of their eyes...

The question is, can you be objective and take constructive criticism or see the world through purple glasses. iin 17 years of drafting i don't see many stars from the 3rd round down. the ravens have lost some serviceable players but other than priest holmes who was a UDFA thye haven't been stars in teh league. heck, i didn;t even review the second round picks which have been down right busts in a lot of cases.

i agree with the poster who said ozzie and compny has hit on a lot of UDFA's, the latest neing marlon brown.

[0_o]

No need to be condescending, who are you to judge? theres nothing wrong with saying a bad draft was a bad draft. 

 

How dare you judge me for judging others, what kind of standard are we trying to set here? I for one will not ride my high horse and be spoken down to!

 

Before you get offended remember sarcasm tends to have that affect on people who don't get it...