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Jimmy Smith really getting a long term extension?

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I loved the article about Torrey Smith and Jimmy Smith getting long terms extensions and the owner himself wants them to leave nowhere. I have confidence that Torrey Smith will get his long term deal done before the draft as stated and if not then before 2015 free agency no doubt, but what about Jimmy Smith? 

 

He will get the 5th. year option, but that is that a sign that Ravens just want to make sure he won't go anywhere or Ravens will let him play the next two years out. If thats the case and he improves steadly from the 2013 season then Jimmy can command a giant payday.

 

I just hope Torrey Smith and Jimmy Smith can be locked up before the draft or before training camp, they have the talent to be the next superstars on the Ravens roster.

 

what do you think?

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“We have no doubt that we’ll be investing the (5th year) option in Jimmy when the time comes,” Harbaugh said.

What's the significant point of Harbaugh saying that instead of Ozzie?

 

As for Torrey, I could be wrong but if they want to sign an extension before this year's draft, couldn't that mean the FO already decided not to draft a WR with their first pick? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, or maybe not. 

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“We have no doubt that we’ll be investing the (5th year) option in Jimmy when the time comes,” Harbaugh said.

What's the significant point of Harbaugh saying that instead of Ozzie?

 

As for Torrey, I could be wrong but if they want to sign an extension before this year's draft, couldn't that mean the FO already decided not to draft a WR with their first pick? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, or maybe not. 

I think you're reading too much into that. We still need another long-term WR for Joe to throw to. Even then, it's not like the FO would leak anything meaningful about their true intentions with the draft.

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If I'm Jimmy, I want to wait for at least another year and back my play to improve further. Like you say, he's in for a BIG payday if he can keep improving (especially if Webb's play drops off during the next year or two).

 

Be nice if we could extend him, but I'm personally not expecting anything until at least after next season. He'll be expensive for sure, but at least if we can extend Torrey before the draft we can focus on re-signing Jimmy when the time comes.

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I think you're reading too much into that. We still need another long-term WR for Joe to throw to. Even then, it's not like the FO would leak anything meaningful about their true intentions with the draft.

Probably right! They will likely draft the best player available regardless of position. However if Torrey is signed early, it makes things easier in the draft rather than drafting for immediate WR needs. Especially with Steve Smith on board. 

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I'm glad this topic was brought up, because I really think that the desire to extend the Smiths is more to do with our organization being happy with where we are with our team and wanting to use up the rest of this cap space. I think it is a sign of content, which is reassuring as a fan!

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As simple description about our FO's plan is that Only God Knows What Ozzie and his crews think.......

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“We have no doubt that we’ll be investing the (5th year) option in Jimmy when the time comes,” Harbaugh said.

What's the significant point of Harbaugh saying that instead of Ozzie?

 

As for Torrey, I could be wrong but if they want to sign an extension before this year's draft, couldn't that mean the FO already decided not to draft a WR with their first pick? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, or maybe not.

I think you're reading too much into it. The draft is late this year, almost into June. Usually teams will make tough decisions on better players post June 1st. I think the front office just wants their salary cap 100% in place before they try to make any moves
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This is a tough spot for Jimmy. At one point, he can build off of his performance and keep raising his price.

On the other hand, I'm sure he also knows the guy across from him got paid because he showed potential and had one great season. That's basically Jimmy, and right now, he could likely command $8-$10M, especially with the rising salary cap.

Given he's struggled with injuries, you'd have to believe Jimmy would rather sign an extension now than gamble for a few extra dollars

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If Jimmy continues his play from last year, they'll ensure that he'll remain a Raven. He's one of our young cornerstones of our defense and the salary cap increases will help in getting deals done with our young pieces. 

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I think you're reading too much into it. The draft is late this year, almost into June. Usually teams will make tough decisions on better players post June 1st. I think the front office just wants their salary cap 100% in place before they try to make any moves

Probably true! I think that due to the possibility that Torrey could have a banner year signing him now will put the FO in a better spot. While holding off on Jimmy Smith may ensure they haven't made a mistake in judging his ability. It's business!

 

Since the Steve Smith and Jacoby Jones signing I no longer see a wr as a top "must do" unless a top prospect falls to them.  

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If I was Jimmy I would bet on myself and the FA market, even if he gets hurt any GM looking for a big, young, shut-down corner would overlook that, we saw that this offseason with big contracts going to guys coming off injuries.

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Sign them both long-term. Jimmy is a beast. He is now one of the best CBs in the NFL. Lock him up.

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Wait, lock up jimmy long term? That guy is a bum! I'm pretty sure he's the guy that a few people on here tore me apart for when I suggested there was no way he should give his number to Matt Elam! Just kidding about the bum part, obviously. It's amazing what a year does, tho. Just goes to show that you can't always jump on the bust wagon.

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Jimmy's had one good season.  No reason not to wait on an extension with that 5th year option.

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Jimmy's had one good season.  No reason not to wait on an extension with that 5th year option.

 

He could continue improving and put himself in a position to get a huge contract after the option year.  We could also sign him now and he could regress back to his play of 2 years ago.  It's definitely a risk either way.  I can only assume that they believe that the Jimmy we saw last year is what we're going to get going forward and they want to get him locked up now.

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He could continue improving and put himself in a position to get a huge contract after the option year.  We could also sign him now and he could regress back to his play of 2 years ago.  It's definitely a risk either way.  I can only assume that they believe that the Jimmy we saw last year is what we're going to get going forward and they want to get him locked up now.

 

Drew is going to want big money regardless of when the extension gets done.

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I think this is going to be an interesting scenario. WE saw what happened when we did not bend to flacco in his contract the first time. Now it is going to be ridiculous. 

 

With Jimmy he is a lot like Flacco. He as not been a monster yet but we have seen glimpses. Now if he puts it together we may have another huge check to sign....if we can.

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I honestly hope we wait a good while before inking Torrey...his cap number will balloon up so hopefully we really look long and hard at every possible FA option before signing him to a big contract. 

 

I definitely think he is worth the money and we should be able to get him at a fair price...something along the lines of $35-42M over 5-6yrs.

 

I think Torrey is a great WR for us, is such an explosive  play maker,  and still has a ton of upside too. Considering his good work ethic and constant  positive attitude, he could be a beast for us in years to come and truly develop into even better wideout than he already is.

 

I think we will drop the 5th year option on Jimmy and see what he does for another year. I really think we need to ensure 2013 was not a fluke and that he can stay consistent in both his coverage, as well as staying healthy. If we were to resign him then see him get injured...it would be quite the disaster.

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He could continue improving and put himself in a position to get a huge contract after the option year.  We could also sign him now and he could regress back to his play of 2 years ago.  It's definitely a risk either way.  I can only assume that they believe that the Jimmy we saw last year is what we're going to get going forward and they want to get him locked up now.

I remember hearing in his first match how the FO feels like we can get with Jimmy what the Jets had with Revis (hopefully not TOO similar, mind....), so that suggests they've had a lot of faith in him all this time. No reason they wouldn't back him to keep getting better imo.

 

I still feel like Jimmy will want to back himself to keep improving and ask for a bigger contract when he can get it - just like Joe did. That's why I like the idea of extending Torrey this offseason if we can. Not to slight Torrey, but I don't think he'll end up with WR1 pay, so the sooner we lock him up the sooner we can look at Jimmy.

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“We have no doubt that we’ll be investing the (5th year) option in Jimmy when the time comes,” Harbaugh said.

What's the significant point of Harbaugh saying that instead of Ozzie?

 

 

your looking into that to much, maybe Ozzie was busy, doesn't really matter if him or John says it.

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If Jimmy continues his play from last year, they'll ensure that he'll remain a Raven. He's one of our young cornerstones of our defense and the salary cap increases will help in getting deals done with our young pieces. 

 

Jimmy is starting to really improve and up his game.  He'll be a great CB in this league.

 

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Unless he can't wait for the money or declines I think we can expect this contract negotiation to last all the way to Franchise Player tag.  He's is shaping up to be who we thought he might be and that means big bucks on the open market.  We can't afford another star contract unless we drop a different star contract.  If he agrees sooner his current low salary allows us to pay him more but keep his cap number lower by averaging in the remaining low salary years.  He should know that his best payday is on the open market after 1-year under the franchise tag, or possibly the transition tag.  Young talented corners seem to get big pay days out there.  

 

So...like I said, unless he wants to cash in early for security and avoid the risk of hitting the market injured or at the wrong times by signing an extension now, he and his agent will ask for a number higher than Moriarty will set, and we will play out the process.  Jimmy just seems like an ultra confident guy that would take the bet on himself.  

 

I hope I'm wrong and he signs a silly low deal for eternity but it seems unlikely.

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I remember hearing in his first match how the FO feels like we can get with Jimmy what the Jets had with Revis (hopefully not TOO similar, mind....), so that suggests they've had a lot of faith in him all this time. No reason they wouldn't back him to keep getting better imo.

 

I still feel like Jimmy will want to back himself to keep improving and ask for a bigger contract when he can get it - just like Joe did. That's why I like the idea of extending Torrey this offseason if we can. Not to slight Torrey, but I don't think he'll end up with WR1 pay, so the sooner we lock him up the sooner we can look at Jimmy.

Hopefully he doesn't get number 1 WR pay, he isn't a number 1 WR.

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Hopefully he doesn't get number 1 WR pay, he isn't a number 1 WR.

Hes still going to get paid well regardless.
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Hes still going to get paid well regardless.

True, I just hope we don't over pay him.

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I loved the article about Torrey Smith and Jimmy Smith getting long terms extensions and the owner himself wants them to leave nowhere. I have confidence that Torrey Smith will get his long term deal done before the draft as stated and if not then before 2015 free agency no doubt, but what about Jimmy Smith? 

 

He will get the 5th. year option, but that is that a sign that Ravens just want to make sure he won't go anywhere or Ravens will let him play the next two years out. If thats the case and he improves steadly from the 2013 season then Jimmy can command a giant payday.

 

I just hope Torrey Smith and Jimmy Smith can be locked up before the draft or before training camp, they have the talent to be the next superstars on the Ravens roster.

 

what do you think?

 

I think we are going to have to beat the hell out of their agents and threaten them to make sure they stay in Baltimore. We can not forgot what happened with Ben Grubbs and Dannell Ellerbe. Their agents forced them to sign elsewhere!

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I think we are going to have to beat the hell out of their agents and threaten them to make sure they stay in Baltimore. We can not forgot what happened with Ben Grubbs and Dannell Ellerbe. Their agents forced them to sign elsewhere!

It's the same guy for both.  Drew Rosenhaus

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