Steve Smith a Raven!

[Raven07]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRfIjFOzGc

[Corvus]

Ok, what is up with this whole "Ice Up, Son" saying from him? Never been a fan of "catchphrases" or whatever you'd like to call them myself (even Sizzle's lines in the past) but you guys are going to wear it out before OTAs even start.

[BmoreBird22]

Ok, what is up with this whole "Ice Up, Son" saying from him? Never been a fan of "catchphrases" or whatever you'd like to call them myself (even Sizzle's lines in the past) but you guys are going to wear it out before OTAs even start.

Aqib Talib and him got into a fight and Steve Smith owned him for the rest of the game. At the end of the game, they asked Steve what happened and he said he he didn't know, but told Talib to, "Ice up, son."

[Raven07]

Ok, what is up with this whole "Ice Up, Son" saying from him? Never been a fan of "catchphrases" or whatever you'd like to call them myself (even Sizzle's lines in the past) but you guys are going to wear it out before OTAs even start.

ice up, meaning " better ice your wounds after i burn you"  or ice your body down cuz you down  you'll never stop me

 

 

basically he's saying no matter what you may do, you cant stop me , so ice up son, your gonna need it 

[berad]

Ok, what is up with this whole "Ice Up, Son" saying from him? Never been a fan of "catchphrases" or whatever you'd like to call them myself (even Sizzle's lines in the past) but you guys are going to wear it out before OTAs even start.

 

[Guest RBates]

Love the signing!  This lets us go into the draft and draft the best available player.  I would love to pick up a FS and a center.  But if not lets roll with what we have.  Someone will step up. 

[grantz]

In the late '90s and early 2000 Ozzie had the Lewis team (Ray, Jamal, Jermaine, and Marvin).   Now Ozzie has put together the Smith team -Torrey, Jimmy, Daryl, and now Steve.   Its the Smith Family Ravens!

[RobFuseRaven]

 

Well I'm glad Cary Williams is no longer on the team. I could see him provoking Steve in practice.

[Bravens292]

Well I'm glad Cary Williams is no longer on the team. I could see him provoking Steve in practice.

 

That would be a bad move. If Steve is as intense in practice as in games, he'd probably throw him down in practice too.

[Purple Nurple]

[Ravenseconbeast]

Our offense needs to be at top of their game.

I know steve smith will have the work ethics to show players how its done. I hope his intensity rubs off on people.

[Bravens292]

 

Can't wait to see him with a helmet and a football in his hands.

[GrimCoconut]

You know what's really getting on my nerves? People keep saying that because we signed a 35-yo WR named Steve Smith, suddenly we won't draft a WR in the first round. Do you guys even know how the Ravens work? I'm seriously frustrated by how often I've seen this notion thrown around that the Steve Smith signing eliminates us from drafting a WR. Let's actually see if this has merit: 

 

2013: We needed a FS after losing Ed Reed. We signed Michael Huff to a rather decent deal. We had Ihedigbo to replace Pollard. The FO believed in him at SS, which is why he never lost the job. Huff was meant to be the successor to Ed Reed. Huff confirmed this in his presser. Not replacement but successor. Elam was drafted in the first round with our first pick. So, you're telling me signing Huff indicated we wouldn't draft Elam? Because that's clearly nonsense. Unconvinced? Let's explore further!

 

2012: Ben Grubbs, Jarrett Johnson, Cory Redding lost. The biggest loss we had was Grubbs and Redding. What was our first pick? Upshaw to replace JJ. We didn't even a guard but we did draft one (KO) in the second. 

 

Just because we sign a player doesn't mean we'll automatically avoid a position. It just means we don't have to reach on a player. Get it straight. I don't think taking Lee, Beckham Jr, Evans or Watkins would be reaches at #17 overall. I'm not even a big fan of Evans but I would take him if he was there. 

[Purple_ICE 81]

You know what's really getting on my nerves? People keep saying that because we signed a 35-yo WR named Steve Smith, suddenly we won't draft a WR in the first round. Do you guys even know how the Ravens work? I'm seriously frustrated by how often I've seen this notion thrown around that the Steve Smith signing eliminates us from drafting a WR. Let's actually see if this has merit: 

 

2013: We needed a FS after losing Ed Reed. We signed Michael Huff to a rather decent deal. We had Ihedigbo to replace Pollard. The FO believed in him at SS, which is why he never lost the job. Huff was meant to be the successor to Ed Reed. Huff confirmed this in his presser. Not replacement but successor. Elam was drafted in the first round with our first pick. So, you're telling me signing Huff indicated we wouldn't draft Elam? Because that's clearly nonsense. Unconvinced? Let's explore further!

 

2012: Ben Grubbs, Jarrett Johnson, Cory Redding lost. The biggest loss we had was Grubbs and Redding. What was our first pick? Upshaw to replace JJ. We didn't even a guard but we did draft one (KO) in the second. 

 

Just because we sign a player doesn't mean we'll automatically avoid a position. It just means we don't have to reach on a player. Get it straight. I don't think taking Lee, Beckham Jr, Evans or Watkins would be reaches at #17 overall. I'm not even a big fan of Evans but I would take him if he was there. 

We have bigger needs now...why spend a 1st or 2nd on a player who will probably be 4th or maybe 3rd on the depth chart? Steve Smith and Torrey are locked in as 1 and 2...and Marlon has done nothing but create big plays for us...although he can improve on some things and Im sure our coaching staff can't wait to see when that happens.

 

We are not the Broncos...we wont be running 4/5 WR sets...most of the time we will probably be running 3 wide at the most.with 2 TEs...or 1 TE and a RB. We will continue to be a run heavy offense too.

 

Although I could care less what we do in the draft and would still love to see Marqise, Odell, Robinson or one of the talented wideouts on our team...Ozzie just never really over indulges at the position during the draft.

[Static]

I was iffy about Steve Smith but after hearing his attitude in articles and interviews , I'm all in. #IceUpSon

[GrimCoconut]

We have bigger needs now...why spend a 1st or 2nd on a player who will probably be 4th or maybe 3rd on the depth chart? Steve Smith and Torrey are locked in as 1 and 2...and Marlon has done nothing but create big plays for us...although he can improve on some things and Im sure our coaching staff can't wait to see when that happens.

 

We are not the Broncos...we wont be running 4/5 WR sets...most of the time we will probably be running 3 wide at the most.with 2 TEs...or 1 TE and a RB. We will continue to be a run heavy offense too.

 

Although I could care less what we do in the draft and would still love to see Marqise, Odell, Robinson or one of the talented wideouts on our team...Ozzie just never really over indulges at the position during the draft.

I still disagree. I think it's entirely possible. Steve Smith isn't exactly a long-term solution. We might have big needs but what are those? FS in a crappy FS class? I'm unimpressed by Dix or Pryor as a 1st round selection. DT? Hageman, Donald, Nix? I could name a number of reasons why I'd pass on those guys at 17. You want us to take an OL? Who? The ever-popular Martin? I don't think he's worth the 17th pick either. I wouldn't take any of the OL guys with the 17th pick unless it was Matthews or Robinson but that's not happening. I can see TE, but really only Amaro since we need a blocking TE as well and I don't see that tenacity in Ebron. Perhaps we could use a CB. I'll go with that over a WR. We sure as Hell won't take Mosley after signing Smith unless we want to run more 4-3 looks. I just don't see many positions that are worth more than WR unless someone ridiculously talented drops like a Clowney, Matthews, Robinson, or someone like that. 

[TDubbs]

 I just don't see many positions that are worth more than WR unless someone ridiculously talented drops like a Clowney, Matthews, Robinson, or someone like that. 

 

If Evans or Ebron are there at #17 I'd be shocked if we passed either up. I'd also love to grab my favourite player, Marqise Lee at #17. Point is, we need to develop a Blue Chip type WR prospect for once. I love Steve Smith, but he is no long-term answer. 

 

Steve Smith/Torrey Smith/Marlon/Jacoby is pretty solid .. But we need to add one of these first round WRs to really be set. 

[GrimCoconut]

If Evans or Ebron are there at #17 I'd be shocked if we passed either up. I'd also love to grab my favourite player, Marqise Lee at #17. Point is, we need to develop a Blue Chip type WR prospect for once. I love Steve Smith, but he is no long-term answer. 

 

Steve Smith/Torrey Smith/Marlon/Jacoby is pretty solid .. But we need to add one of these first round WRs to really be set. 

I agree. It's obvious that Pitta and Smith will play a lot. I believe we'll see quite a few formations with Pitta, T. Smith & S. Smith in there and another guy rotating in with Brown and a draft pick. I think Lee, Evans, Beckham could be that third WR in the formation. I know it's not popular but you can ease them in. It also fits our mold of draft strategy. We don't like to start guys immediately but we ease them into action. We could rotate Lee, Beckham, Evans or whoever in with Brown as the third WR and get them game reps to develop them. When Torrey or Steve needs a break, they can come into the game. With the amount of passing the league does now, you need to be deep at WR to rotate guys. That's why I feel like it's irrelevant that we signed Smith and Jones because we will still need to keep Torrey & Steve fresh and you do that through a solid rotation.

 

Imagine this kind of setup: 

 

Draft Lee/Evans/Beckham Jr/Whatever with the first pick. Draft Niklas/ASJ/Fiedorowicz with the 2nd/3rd pick. Then, just go and rotate them in with the starters. Our receivers and TE will be fresh and more effective.

[TDubbs]

I agree. It's obvious that Pitta and Smith will play a lot. I believe we'll see quite a few formations with Pitta, T. Smith & S. Smith in there and another guy rotating in with Brown and a draft pick. I think Lee, Evans, Beckham could be that third WR in the formation. I know it's not popular but you can ease them in. It also fits our mold of draft strategy. We don't like to start guys immediately but we ease them into action. We could rotate Lee, Beckham, Evans or whoever in with Brown as the third WR and get them game reps to develop them. When Torrey or Steve needs a break, they can come into the game. With the amount of passing the league does now, you need to be deep at WR to rotate guys. That's why I feel like it's irrelevant that we signed Smith and Jones because we will still need to keep Torrey & Steve fresh and you do that through a solid rotation.

 

 

Exactly. It's better when you can ease them in around other talent and try to keep a fresh, healthy rotation at WR. Torrey/Steve/Marlon/Jacoby isn't enough right now. If even one of them gets injured, we're hurting and Jacoby is a starter. But you add a 1st round stud WR in there, now we have some different looks to throw at teams. 

[Tank 92]

I can't wait for the first time Smitty plows a DB as a Raven and jumps up spitting nails!  Dude is a flat out beast!

[BMORE21]

not this upcoming season but maybe after we will be SB contenders. no way we have a shot at sb this season with all the personal

[BmoreBird22]

You know what's really getting on my nerves? People keep saying that because we signed a 35-yo WR named Steve Smith, suddenly we won't draft a WR in the first round. Do you guys even know how the Ravens work? I'm seriously frustrated by how often I've seen this notion thrown around that the Steve Smith signing eliminates us from drafting a WR. Let's actually see if this has merit: 

 

2013: We needed a FS after losing Ed Reed. We signed Michael Huff to a rather decent deal. We had Ihedigbo to replace Pollard. The FO believed in him at SS, which is why he never lost the job. Huff was meant to be the successor to Ed Reed. Huff confirmed this in his presser. Not replacement but successor. Elam was drafted in the first round with our first pick. So, you're telling me signing Huff indicated we wouldn't draft Elam? Because that's clearly nonsense. Unconvinced? Let's explore further!

 

2012: Ben Grubbs, Jarrett Johnson, Cory Redding lost. The biggest loss we had was Grubbs and Redding. What was our first pick? Upshaw to replace JJ. We didn't even a guard but we did draft one (KO) in the second. 

 

Just because we sign a player doesn't mean we'll automatically avoid a position. It just means we don't have to reach on a player. Get it straight. I don't think taking Lee, Beckham Jr, Evans or Watkins would be reaches at #17 overall. I'm not even a big fan of Evans but I would take him if he was there.

I agree that we draft a receiver in the first round if Lee or OBJ is there. There's nothing that would stop the Ravens from snagging one.

I don't think people realize that receivers take a few years to develop and there's a good chance the Ravens don't want to throw a rookie receiver right into the fire given their history.

We also have to consider that Steve Smith is a short term solution, there is zero guarantee Torrey is back (as much as people love to guarantee that), and Marlon still has a significant ways to go. People also love to hype up Aaron Mallette, but he's a seventh round rookie with zero regular season experience. There is nothing to suggest it'd be a bad idea to take a receiver

[GrimCoconut]

I agree that we draft a receiver in the first round if Lee or OBJ is there. There's nothing that would stop the Ravens from snagging one.

I don't think people realize that receivers take a few years to develop and there's a good chance the Ravens don't want to throw a rookie receiver right into the fire given their history.

We also have to consider that Steve Smith is a short term solution, there is zero guarantee Torrey is back (as much as people love to guarantee that), and Marlon still has a significant ways to go. People also love to hype up Aaron Mallette, but he's a seventh round rookie with zero regular season experience. There is nothing to suggest it'd be a bad idea to take a receiver

Also true. Smith could walk on us in FA, though I doubt it, it's still a possibility. A WR like Beckham or Lee or whoever could be our insurance in case negotiations fall through. He does have that leech of an agent, Drew Rosenhaus last I checked. 

[BmoreBird22]

Also true. Smith could walk on us in FA, though I doubt it, it's still a possibility. A WR like Beckham or Lee or whoever could be our insurance in case negotiations fall through. He does have that leech of an agent, Drew Rosenhaus last I checked.

Someone did point that out. I'd like to think that Torrey would stay since he was a Terp, fairly close to Maryland when he grew up, and is now a Raven. Seems like everything would work out, but as you said, Rosenhaus. I also think Kubiak will do great things for him, so he could really drive his price up

[Static]

Not saying Torrey would come cheap but I think Torrey would want to stay here.

[shaneomatic]

As mush as I want to keep Torrey here as a Raven, if Rosenhaus drives the price up way too high, and it is between Jimmy and Torrey, I am taking Jimmy everyday.

[allblackraven]

Sorry if this was posted already. Courtesy of nfl.com comments section (don't ask), great stat article on Steve Smith. Damn amazing, actually:

 

http://www.footballperspective.com/the-steve-smith-post/

[codizzle]

As mush as I want to keep Torrey here as a Raven, if Rosenhaus drives the price up way too high, and it is between Jimmy and Torrey, I am taking Jimmy everyday.

Can't choose that until I see this season..

Wanna see either/both take next step

[Militant X 1]

Maaan!  I love this move!  I've always liked Steve Smith and wished he were a Raven!  Now he is...wow!  Let's goooooo!

 

#Mili

[RLewis52]

Maaan!  I love this move!  I've always liked Steve Smith and wished he were a Raven!  Now he is...wow!  Let's goooooo!

 

#Mili

    I love Steve Smith too, but don't expect him to be amazing. Its a pretty nice pick up because its exactly what we needed(a WR), but i just don't see him at the end of his career being the Steve Smith he use to be. By that I mean all pro player. He will move the chains though, and that's good enough for me ha