Ravens re-sign WR Jacoby Jones - 4 years

[Ravenslifer]

while you understand that it appesrs some people believe Jacoby is a viable every snap receiving threat, he's clearly not, as evidenced last year towards the end when he was asked to run more complex routes etc and looked out of place.

 

I'm not sure who thinks he's a starter, but that's actually the worst position for him - he's a return guy, and A) you don't want your starter gassed by having to return kicks, and B. his injury risk is much higher than most players because of his dual role, so you don't want to count on a guy like that.  It's actually the way I feel about a lot of those players like Patrick Peterson and Corradarrelle Patterson - yeah it's nice to have a guy who can make impacts on offense and special teams, but it also makes him twice as likely to get hurt, then you're down a starter.  Jacoby was at his best in 2012 when he was the number 3, and that's where he's probably going to stay in Baltimore.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Plus his deal probably isn't what it looks like. His cap hit this year will probably only be like $1.8 mill and next year will be like $2.5 mill tops.

Then he gets cut. It's a good deal.

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't know about that. If we sign Steve Smith, we have Jones, Smith, Smith, Marlon, and Mallette. If we do draft a WR, I doubt it would be high. He would be the 6th receiver on the depth chart. I would like to see us focus on our other needs, other then WR in FA.

so explain to me what makes it a better move to address our other holes in the draft, when those positions are all very weak in this draft? and no, a WR drafted in the first 2 rounds would not be the 6th on the depth chart, what gives you that idea? mellette has literally shown nothing besides a few 2nd half catches in the preseason, we have no idea if marlin brown continues to develop, he could very easily hit a sophomore slump, and jacoby jones has proven time and time again he is a excellent 4th option, and a viable 3rd option, but nothing more than that outside of a return man. even with steve smith, a 1st or 2nd rounder at WR in this draft is almost a lock to be at the very least the 4th option, and by the regular season, if we draft a pro ready guy like marquise lee or jordan matthews, they're probably our 3rd WR by the start of the season.

i understand us ravens fans like torrey and marlon brown and have high hopes for mellette, but to go into this season expecting them to be a top notch well rounded group, is just irresponsible on our FO's part. and with all the awesome talent at WR in this draft, why would we ever just ignore that position completely because we have "other needs"? especially when those needs are not as dire as WR. center is a big need, FS is a big need, but with a LT and a 120million$ QB with only 1 sure handed target, we need to give the guy some weapons, and not people that drop the balls and can only run posts and streaks.

FS, and C can all be addressed in FA, resign daryl smith, let rolando come back and give him a good look to see if he's ready to play again, draft late for depth, and double dip at a weapon for joe in rounds 1-3 getting a WR and big body TE.

[display name]

Lol, you are delusional. That's one of those plays that I was talking about. Cool that you remember that one. Good job.

Ed Reed says you're wrong too.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/videos/videos/NFLN-Jacoby-Jones-66-Yard-Touchdown-Catch/9c5de35e-492a-47f8-b5b3-56ad4ee146a5

[chsbasebalplayer]

Ian RapoportVerified account‏@RapSheet

Thought Jacoby Jones visiting the Giants today was a leverage play. Turns out, he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Baltimore

[Moderator 3]

Ian RapoportVerified account‏@RapSheet

Thought Jacoby Jones visiting the Giants today was a leverage play. Turns out, he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Baltimore

So apparently Ozzie did not go above Jacoby's market value.

[Ravenslifer]

 

Ian RapoportVerified account‏@RapSheet

Thought Jacoby Jones visiting the Giants today was a leverage play. Turns out, he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Baltimore

 

 

In my head it played out like this:

 

Jacoby: Eli, throw me a deep pass.

Eli: Okay.

Jacoby: No, not a mid-range pass, I mean a long bomb.  Haven't you seen me with Joe Flacco the last 2 years?

Eli: That's as far as I can throw.

Jacoby:  Oh... see ya.

[Willbacker]

Glad to see him back. Gives us a playmaking deep threat and keeps our return team strong aka field position. Still would take a WR in the 1st 2 rds.

[Willbacker]

In my head it played out like this:

 

Jacoby: Eli, throw me a deep pass.

Eli: Okay.

Jacoby: No, not a mid-range pass, I mean a long bomb.  Haven't you seen me with Joe Flacco the last 2 years?

Eli: That's as far as I can throw.

Jacoby:  Oh... see ya.

Lol.

[RavensNation14]

I think if we get Steve Smith we will take a WR in the 3rd round. We have a lot of undeveloped talent at WR right now and with Pitta back it will make our offense way better. Torrey and Steve will be our #1 and #2 while Brown/Jacoby/whoever we draft will rotate in that role. I think we take BPA for our first round pick and then go lineman if that wasn't the first round pick. We might even take Clinton-Dix/Pryor if we don't address FS soon enough which I'm not to sure about, but Ozzie knows his stuff. 

[Puntit]

I think if we get Steve Smith we will take a WR in the 3rd round. We have a lot of undeveloped talent at WR right now and with Pitta back it will make our offense way better. Torrey and Steve will be our #1 and #2 while Brown/Jacoby/whoever we draft will rotate in that role. I think we take BPA for our first round pick and then go lineman if that wasn't the first round pick. We might even take Clinton-Dix/Pryor if we don't address FS soon enough which I'm not to sure about, but Ozzie knows his stuff.

It's too early to speculate who we will need to draft and when. Right now we might be short a WR, TE, RT, C, MLB, nickel corner, FS. Knowing Ozzie, he still might pick up a nose tackle if that's who he regards as the BPA. My bet is he fills some of these spots before the draft, or guys like Asa Jackson, Wagner, Jensen, Juice, and Omar get "promoted" to doing more.

[K-Dog]

I am SO surprised.

I got just a little giddy when I herd the news.

 

I am very glad for this signing.

[jaege]

Yes, and the offense transformed when Jacoby and Pitta came back. And Rice got healthier. Leaves us kind of thin don't you think? The offense was in shambles and absolutely pathetic all year. Some because of injuries. But mostly because of talent. And if you don't see that, then you simply are blind.

 

 

I don't think anyone expects 4000 yards out of the guy. But a solid 500 or 600 would be fine, along with giving us good field position on returns, and a few highlight reel run backs. Its not like they are paying him Joe Flacco money.

 

Part of the reason that fans are excited about him staying is because he is a fan favorite, and we have lost a lot of fan favorites over the last few years. Its understandable why, but that doesn't make it any more a reason for celebration. Remember how much it sucked that Reed left for the Texans.People would have rather seen him retire a Raven.

 

Sure we had better spruce up the WR corp with more than just the same guys from last year. I am reasonably certain that the FO is well aware of our needs in that department. So don't get all bunched up, until the FA and the draft are over. Enjoy the little things when you can. Keeping a fan favorite is one of those enjoyable little things.

[Puntit]

I don't think anyone expects 4000 yards out of the guy. But a solid 500 or 600 would be fine, along with giving us good field position on returns, and a few highlight reel run backs. Its not like they are paying him Joe Flacco money.

 

Part of the reason that fans are excited about him staying is because he is a fan favorite, and we have lost a lot of fan favorites over the last few years. Its understandable why, but that doesn't make it any more a reason for celebration. Remember how much it sucked that Reed left for the Texans.People would have rather seen him retire a Raven.

 

Sure we had better spruce up the WR corp with more than just the same guys from last year. I am reasonably certain that the FO is well aware of our needs in that department. So don't get all bunched up, until the FA and the draft are over. Enjoy the little things when you can. Keeping a fan favorite is one of those enjoyable little things.

I like Jacoby, and I like the idea of building around a core that will be here for four more years (Flacco, Pitta, Jacoby, Monroe). That being said we were a weak 8-8 team last year and we aren't going to do that much better with the same personnel minus Arthur Jones, Graham, Leach, McLain, Doss, and probably Smith and Oher. While I love retaining the bright spot in our lineup, I'm still waiting for the signing that does more than maintain the status quo.

[rmw10]

I like Jacoby, and I like the idea of building around a core that will be here for four more years (Flacco, Pitta, Jacoby, Monroe). That being said we were a weak 8-8 team last year and we aren't going to do that much better with the same personnel minus Arthur Jones, Graham, Leach, McLain, Doss, and probably Smith and Oher. While I love retaining the bright spot in our lineup, I'm still waiting for the signing that does more than maintain the status quo.

 

Patience.  We're only 29.5 hours into free agency.  There's still plenty of time.

[jaege]

Ignoring the personal attacks, lets not act like Jacoby is a great receiver. He's a decent option for 20 or so snaps a game, open it up a bit, but his value is 95 percent in the return game.

We paid him to be the best return man in the league, that offers a little something as a pass catcher. Lets not let nostalgia get the better of us here

 

 

I agree. And that is what he is being paid as. He isnt getting top WR pay, or even 2nd or 3rd WR pay.

[jaege]

I like Jacoby, and I like the idea of building around a core that will be here for four more years (Flacco, Pitta, Jacoby, Monroe). That being said we were a weak 8-8 team last year and we aren't going to do that much better with the same personnel minus Arthur Jones, Graham, Leach, McLain, Doss, and probably Smith and Oher. While I love retaining the bright spot in our lineup, I'm still waiting for the signing that does more than maintain the status quo.

 

 

There has been a day of FA so far. Ozzie isn't one to jump in as soon as the gates open. He likes to observe the idiots eat each other, then he goes in for some bargain shopping. We have all seen this over and over, right? I assume this is not your first year of following this team. This happens every year during FA. Although this year we may actually grab a guy or three.

 

Although it can be frustrating.

[Poes Crows]

Well dip me in poop and roll me in corn meal!  Yesssssssssss!!!!!!!!! The Dragonfly returns!

 

Now on to Daryl Smith.

 

Excellent

 

Noted some of the fans here are recognizing that Jacoby was catching the ball with his hands more.  The view here in regard to receiving skills is that he is still improving.

 

But the key to resigning Dragonfly was that if the Raven's hope to get anywhere close to their playoff level two years ago, Jacoby is an essential element in that pursuit.  We must have the diversified Receiver Corps we had in 2012 to have the slightest prayer to be in position for a playoff spot at the end of the year.  If we can get in, it is very likely to come down to one game and one big play.  Jacoby is uniquely qualified to be that difference maker. The Raven's have very few players that can win that must have game on their own. 

 

Eugene Monroe certainly can't win that game and to this eye signing Jacoby offsets the mistake of signing Monroe instead of Veldheer, who was there for us. Mistake, but the Ozmobile has generally been losing horsepower for a number of years now. The signing of Jacoby at least closes that barn door to keep one of the big horses.

 

Lets face it, Flacco didn't have a running game to use the play action pass and he didn't have time to let them rip downfield as effectively as 2012.  Monroe was a part of that problem. At least with Jacoby we retain the ability to pull a game out we have no right of winning. Maybe a game Monroe plays like the 3rd rater he is.

[jazz1988]

Excellent

 

Noted some of the fans here are recognizing that Jacoby was catching the ball with his hands more.  The view here in regard to receiving skills is that he is still improving.

 

But the key to resigning Dragonfly was that if the Raven's hope to get anywhere close to their playoff level two years ago, Jacoby is an essential element in that pursuit.  We must have the diversified Receiver Corps we had in 2012 to have the slightest prayer to be in position for a playoff spot at the end of the year.  If we can get in, it is very likely to come down to one game and one big play.  Jacoby is uniquely qualified to be that difference maker. The Raven's have very few players that can win that must have game on their own. 

 

Eugene Monroe certainly can't win that game and to this eye signing Jacoby offsets the mistake of signing Monroe instead of Veldheer, who was there for us. Mistake, but the Ozmobile has generally been losing horsepower for a number of years now. The signing of Jacoby at least closes that barn door to keep one of the big horses.

 

Lets face it, Flacco didn't have a running game to use the play action pass and he didn't have time to let them rip downfield as effectively as 2012.  Monroe was a part of that problem. At least with Jacoby we retain the ability to pull a game out we have no right of winning. Maybe a game Monroe plays like the 3rd rater he is.

 

Monroe fits Gary Kubiak  zone blocking scheme   alot better than Veldheer. The last time Oakland used a zone blocking scheme it didn't work out well for their offensive line or  Veldheer. It wouldn't have made sense to sign a offensive linemen(Veldheer) whom better fits a power blocking scheme more than anything  but any way glad Jacoby Jones is re-signed as well as Monroe.

[gooftroop]

Having an excellent return man seems important if you can't sustain drives. I'm glad JJ's back.

[GrimCoconut]

I am glad Jacoby is back but I have mixed feelings. I like Jones and especially his personality and I'm very excited to see how Kubiak uses him but I can't forget he's an older KR specialist and those guys tend to have the wheels fall off quick, Perhaps he can continue it, I really don't know. 

 

I'm not mad we re-signed him but I'm also not joyous over it. I'm rather neutral on this one. The deal isn't expensive so I guess it's not a bad deal in all honesty. He likely eliminates Doss from returning unless he returns as a tryout. I think Doss gave us something as a KR but if JJ is back, then it's irrelevant. 

[Grapple Raven]

Ed Reed says you're wrong too.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/videos/videos/NFLN-Jacoby-Jones-66-Yard-Touchdown-Catch/9c5de35e-492a-47f8-b5b3-56ad4ee146a5

Good one display! 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Wow! 4 for 4 this off-season so far. I predicted Suggs, Pitta, Monroe and Jacoby would work-out deals and BAM! Feeling real good about this upcoming season!

[The Raven]

Little over what I would have thought, but it's low guaranteed. I can dig it. I hate his inconsistency but I guess I underrate his ability to blow a game open with his play making ability. 

[GrimCoconut]

Little over what I would have thought, but it's low guaranteed. I can dig it. I hate his inconsistency but I guess I underrate his ability to blow a game open with his play making ability. 

Yeah, ditto, but we didn't give him a lot of guaranteed so he could be easily cut without hurting us. I'm not fond of giving big deals to kick returners. The wheels fall off fast at 30yo. 

[gabefergy]

I would have rather seen this money going towards resigning Art. Letting him go was a mistake because we have the cap to sign him.

That said, Jacoby is a valuable player and the contract isnt terrible. Little guaranteed money and its doubtful he hits those incentives. If he stops producing he can be cut in 2 years.

[Puntit]

I would have rather seen this money going towards resigning Art. Letting him go was a mistake because we have the cap to sign him.

That said, Jacoby is a valuable player and the contract isnt terrible. Little guaranteed money and its doubtful he hits those incentives. If he stops producing he can be cut in 2 years.

Art got 10 mill guaranteed. We wouldn't match that even though the entire contract wasn't that unreasonable. Plus we have other understudy players at that position that aren't terrible.

That being said, we are gradually going through cap money and haven't made much of a splash in free agency. Hoping that changes later in the week when Ozzie decides the suckers (Cleveland and Miami) burned through all their mad money. While I like our players we resigned, they were still only an 8-8 team even with Art and Graham. As of this moment we aren't a better team than we were in December. We are setting ourself up to get a few compensatory picks in a year.

[PurpleCityLights]

Great sign, have no idea why people are trolling Jones tho......

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Guys who are worrying about our cap space: we still have way more money that we had at this point last year, when we were about to sign Dumervil, Canty, Daryl etc etc.  Plenty of wiggle room for Ozzie to fill the gaps in our team.

[CorvusCorax]

Great re-signing! He's a game changer, especially in our Super Bowl run. We will have to see what happens next in FA.