Ravens re-sign WR Jacoby Jones - 4 years

[Purple_ICE 81]

All that is on my mind right now for some reason is Jacoby taking a big bite out of a Turkey drum stick ...hahaha that was a funny game last year.

[ooo sugahhh 52]

good signing.  people who are complaining, why are you ignoring the low guaranteed money and the speculated low cap hit?  in the end, your complaining about one million more against the cap that someone under the vet min would bring.  its not like we are tight to the cap we still have plenty of money to bring other players in or retain someone like daryl smith. 

 

jj is a gamechanger on special teams and has certainly improved as a reciever.  i thought that he was gonna take whatever we offered him because i believe he loves playing here.  houston fans ran him out of town with pitch forks and torches and he was vocally upset by this.  he is loved by most fans here and i'm sure he kept that in mind. 

 

congrats jj

[ooo sugahhh 52]

also, we would be 0-4 in our last 4 games against the steelers without him.  that alone is worth some money

[ravensdfan]

Holiday

 

In his 2 years in Baltimore (being out for 4 or 5 games one of those years) Jacoby put up the following numbers (returns only):

 

341/237 (punts) 1167/892 (kicks) Averages per: 9.2/12.5 (punts) 30.7/28.8

 

Holliday put up the following in the last 2 years:

 

481/271 (punts) 552/775 (kicks) averages per: 10/8.5 (punts) 26/27 (kicks)

 

TDs last 2 years : 

 

Holliday 4/ Jones 4

 

...and you think Holliday is better????

 

Then, you get to add what Jones brings on the WR side of the ball that Holliday does not:

 

406/455 with 3 TDs (averaging over 10 yds a reception)

 

Holliday

 

17 yards. That's it.

 

Get real man.

[HoldingCall]

Neither is Jacoby. If we had anyone on our roster who was decent other than Torrey, Jacoby would be bumped to third possibly 4th on the list easily. When we had Boldin he wasn't starting and given opportunity, he has shown nothing to prove he is capable of starting. He is a deep threat/return man and thats it. A purely situational player. 

Jacoby is a play-maker who helps improve chances and ways the team can score points, he's proven it multiple times.

[Ravenslifer]

Holiday

 

Trindon Holliday has a grand total of 2 receptions in his 4 year NFL career - he's a pure special teams returner.  Meanwhile Jacoby has at least 400 yards receiving in each of the last 5 seasons, including 450 in just 12 games this year.  Jacoby is a decent number 3 receiver, and if we were to make a move that brings in another starter and relegates Marlon to number 3 and Jacoby to number 4 on the depth chart, he'd be that much better - he'd be getting covered by some of the worst corners in the league.

[Gtown Purple]

People also seem to forget Holiday's propensity to fumble................

 

 

People seem to forget that he is actually a pretty good wide receiver. I've said this 100 times and I'll say it again. Whenever he has the ball in his hands, there is a legitimate chance for him to go all the way for a touchdown.

[Grapple Raven]

rmw10 is correct, his cap number is friendly.  Jacoby is a playmaker. You also have to consider that Jacoby brings a lot of fun and excitement to the game as well, as he is very popular with the fanbase. He has brought in a lot of new fans to the organization.  In light of all the negative press the Ravens have incurred this offseason his value there can't be overlooked either.

 

I am glad he is still a Raven...Raven's football just wouldn't have been the same without Jacoby!

[jaege]

The past is the past. 

 

 

If that is true then Trinden Holiday is an unknown quantity, as is every other player.The only thing we have to rate anyone or anything by is what we know, and that knowledge is ALWAYS base upon the past. Duh!

[RichieAsh]

Holiday is such a fumbler that the Broncos replaced him with Eric Decker on punt returns to finish the season.  

[Geving]

Bringing up receiving stats on Jacoby is completely irrelevant. Everybody is calling Jacoby a "playmaker". Lol. Jacoby is a terrible receiver and you wouldn't want him to be a part of your receiving core at all besides being a WR4 or 5 backup. Legitimate chance for him to go all the way for a touchdown every time he has the ball in his hands? Yes, on kickoffs. Not as a receiver. Come on people. People only remember a couple of plays. Not his overall play.You would actually want him to be our third again this year? 

That means Torrey#1, Marlon#2 and Jacoby#3. And everybody complained that the receiving core was abysmal and the passing attack was a nightmare last year. Logic, that would be the same core as last year. He can dance and run. That's it. Don't sugarcoat it.

I'm sure the FO makes more moves, so I'm not too worried. He won't be a #2 nor #3, X player from FA or the draft and Marlon should be in front of him on the depth chart anyways. So it's all good. People should just know that we are paying a returner only this money, not a receiver. And that returner could've been cheaper or found in the draft. This is money that could've been spent on Daryl, Clemons, Brian DLP or whoever. 

I'm out. 

[flynismo]

Holiday

The guy who fumbles more than he scores, and offers nothing as a reciever?

[FoxRox75]

Awesome to get JJ back, but I'm gonna miss Corey Graham. I'll always remember him for his two HUGE picks in the AFC Divisional Broncos game...

 

At least we'll have Jacoby to catch more bombs and make wicked returns!

[Purple_ICE 81]

Bringing up receiving stats on Jacoby is completely irrelevant. Everybody is calling Jacoby a "playmaker". Lol. Jacoby is a terrible receiver and you wouldn't want him to be a part of your receiving core at all besides being a WR4 or 5 backup. Legitimate chance for him to go all the way for a touchdown every time he has the ball in his hands? Yes, on kickoffs. Not as a receiver. Come on people. People only remember a couple of plays. Not his overall play.You would actually want him to be our third again this year? 

That means Torrey#1, Marlon#2 and Jacoby#3. And everybody complained that the receiving core was abysmal and the passing attack was a nightmare last year. Logic, that would be the same core as last year. He can dance and run. That's it. Don't sugarcoat it.

I'm sure the FO makes more moves, so I'm not too worried. He won't be a #2 nor #3, X player from FA or the draft and Marlon should be in front of him on the depth chart anyways. So it's all good. People should just know that we are paying a returner only this money, not a receiver. And that returner could've been cheaper or found in the draft. This is money that could've been spent on Daryl, Clemons, Brian DLP or whoever. 

I'm out. 

Don't worry he won't be our 3rd stringer anymore. He will be our special teams ace, and reserve deep threat WR where he always makes an impact in certain situations. We are currently looking at a few free agent WRs and of course the draft is full of young studs who we could take. 

 

We are definitely NOT done with WRs yet this offseason...once Steve Smith is cut by the Panthers he will be high on our bidding list. 

[display name]

Bringing up receiving stats on Jacoby is completely irrelevant. Everybody is calling Jacoby a "playmaker". Lol. Jacoby is a terrible receiver and you wouldn't want him to be a part of your receiving core at all besides being a WR4 or 5 backup. Legitimate chance for him to go all the way for a touchdown every time he has the ball in his hands? Yes, on kickoffs. Not as a receiver. Come on people. People only remember a couple of plays. Not his overall play.You would actually want him to be our third again this year? 

That means Torrey#1, Marlon#2 and Jacoby#3. And everybody complained that the receiving core was abysmal and the passing attack was a nightmare last year. Logic, that would be the same core as last year. He can dance and run. That's it. Don't sugarcoat it.

I'm sure the FO makes more moves, so I'm not too worried. He won't be a #2 nor #3, X player from FA or the draft and Marlon should be in front of him on the depth chart anyways. So it's all good. People should just know that we are paying a returner only this money, not a receiver. And that returner could've been cheaper or found in the draft. This is money that could've been spent on Daryl, Clemons, Brian DLP or whoever. 

I'm out. 

Rahim Moore says you're wrong.

[Ravenslifer]

Bringing up receiving stats on Jacoby is completely irrelevant. Everybody is calling Jacoby a "playmaker". Lol. Jacoby is a terrible receiver and you wouldn't want him to be a part of your receiving core at all besides being a WR4 or 5 backup. Legitimate chance for him to go all the way for a touchdown every time he has the ball in his hands? Yes, on kickoffs. Not as a receiver. Come on people. People only remember a couple of plays. Not his overall play.You would actually want him to be our third again this year? 

That means Torrey#1, Marlon#2 and Jacoby#3. And everybody complained that the receiving core was abysmal and the passing attack was a nightmare last year. Logic, that would be the same core as last year. He can dance and run. That's it. Don't sugarcoat it.

I'm sure the FO makes more moves, so I'm not too worried. He won't be a #2 nor #3, X player from FA or the draft and Marlon should be in front of him on the depth chart anyways. So it's all good. People should just know that we are paying a returner only this money, not a receiver. And that returner could've been cheaper or found in the draft. This is money that could've been spent on Daryl, Clemons, Brian DLP or whoever. 

I'm out. 

 

Um, you do recall that Jacoby missed 4 games last year, and this other guy, what was his name, Pitta or something, he missed 12 games, and I hear he's pretty good as well.  This is nowhere close to the same team as last year - after Torrey, the guy who played the most was Marlon Brown, a rookie, who played less than 70 percent of the snaps.  No other receiver or tight end even reached 60 percent of the offensive snaps last year, and Rice barely made it over 60 percent.  We were depleted at receiver, tight end, and running back.  Hardly the same team as last year, provided everyone is healthy.

[Geving]

Rahim Moore says you're wrong.

Lol, you are delusional. That's one of those plays that I was talking about. Cool that you remember that one. Good job.

[ravensdfan]

Bringing up receiving stats on Jacoby is completely irrelevant. Everybody is calling Jacoby a "playmaker". Lol. Jacoby is a terrible receiver and you wouldn't want him to be a part of your receiving core at all besides being a WR4 or 5 backup. Legitimate chance for him to go all the way for a touchdown every time he has the ball in his hands? Yes, on kickoffs. Not as a receiver. Come on people. People only remember a couple of plays. Not his overall play.You would actually want him to be our third again this year? 

That means Torrey#1, Marlon#2 and Jacoby#3. And everybody complained that the receiving core was abysmal and the passing attack was a nightmare last year. Logic, that would be the same core as last year. He can dance and run. That's it. Don't sugarcoat it.

I'm sure the FO makes more moves, so I'm not too worried. He won't be a #2 nor #3, X player from FA or the draft and Marlon should be in front of him on the depth chart anyways. So it's all good. People should just know that we are paying a returner only this money, not a receiver. And that returner could've been cheaper or found in the draft. This is money that could've been spent on Daryl, Clemons, Brian DLP or whoever. 

I'm out. 

 

Our receiving corps was abysmal, in large part, because Jones went down, Pitta went down, and we played around with Stokely and Clark (old & slow), did WR by committee, allowing no chemistry to develop.

 

Once Marlon got into a groove, he was pretty much the #2 guy, though when Jacoby came back they rotated in and out.

 

I'm acutally alright with Smith, Brown & Jacoby as the top 3. I'm tired of bringing in vets that are pretty much done who always let us down and don't play their contract worth.

[Cville-Raven]

Wow I was sure he would be a Giant

[Geving]

Um, you do recall that Jacoby missed 4 games last year, and this other guy, what was his name, Pitta or something, he missed 12 games, and I hear he's pretty good as well.  This is nowhere close to the same team as last year - after Torrey, the guy who played the most was Marlon Brown, a rookie, who played less than 70 percent of the snaps.  No other receiver or tight end even reached 60 percent of the offensive snaps last year, and Rice barely made it over 60 percent.  We were depleted at receiver, tight end, and running back.  Hardly the same team as last year, provided everyone is healthy.

Yes, and the offense transformed when Jacoby and Pitta came back. And Rice got healthier. Leaves us kind of thin don't you think? The offense was in shambles and absolutely pathetic all year. Some because of injuries. But mostly because of talent. And if you don't see that, then you simply are blind.

[rmw10]

Lol, you are delusional. That's one of those plays that I was talking about. Cool that you remember that one. Good job.

 

Jacoby's salary doesn't dictate that he's a star WR though.  It dictates that he's a star KR and a solid #3/4 option.  That's exactly what he is and this contract is right in line with what guys like that get.

[Geving]

Jacoby's salary doesn't dictate that he's a star WR though.  It dictates that he's a star KR and a solid #3/4 option.  That's exactly what he is and this contract is right in line with what guys like that get.

But he's not a solid #3. Far from it. I would've prefered to used the money elsewhere. That's all.

[Ravenslifer]

Yes, and the offense transformed when Jacoby and Pitta came back. And Rice got healthier. Leaves us kind of thin don't you think? The offense was in shambles and absolutely pathetic all year. Some because of injuries. But mostly because of talent. And if you don't see that, then you simply are blind.

 

So you're saying that with them we were thin, but by not bringing them back we'd be better off?  This gives us an opportunity to add to what we have.  Torrey is the only starting receiver on the roster.  We can sign someone, moving Marlon and Jacoby to better roles at number 3 and 4 receiver.  Pitta was the only quality starting tight end on the roster - Clark is done, and I think Dickson's mentality around here makes it unlikely he'll come back - he needs a fresh start somewhere else, and played like crap last year.  Now instead of having to REPLACE Pitta and Jacoby, we can ADD to them.  So please explain to me how this is BLIND, because it seems to me like you're saying replacing our players is better than adding to them.

[ravensdfan]

Yes, and the offense transformed when Jacoby and Pitta came back. And Rice got healthier. Leaves us kind of thin don't you think? The offense was in shambles and absolutely pathetic all year. Some because of injuries. But mostly because of talent. And if you don't see that, then you simply are blind.

 

The offense was in shambles because we brought in old & slow vets instead of giving playing time to the young WRs we already had like Mellete & Brown. Which is what you now want to do - bring in more washed up vets.

 

We'll draft a WR or 2 and hopefully, we'll actually give them some playing time. We'll keep Smith (of course) and hopefully Brown (though he'll probably have to compete at camp) and now Jacoby.

 

There is also something to be said for consistency & chemistry. Something we've not had in our receiving corps for quite some time. You'd have to go back to Mason & Heap to find it.

 

Pitta will be back this year as well.

[Yatagarasu]

We need more weapons!!!

[Cville-Raven]

Jacoby is definitely a solid #3

[rafahash]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  45s

Thought Jacoby Jones visiting the Giants today was a leverage play. Turns out, he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Baltimore

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[Geving]

So you're saying that with them we were thin, but by not bringing them back we'd be better off?  This gives us an opportunity to add to what we have.  Torrey is the only starting receiver on the roster.  We can sign someone, moving Marlon and Jacoby to better roles at number 3 and 4 receiver.  Pitta was the only quality starting tight end on the roster - Clark is done, and I think Dickson's mentality around here makes it unlikely he'll come back - he needs a fresh start somewhere else, and played like crap last year.  Now instead of having to REPLACE Pitta and Jacoby, we can ADD to them.  So please explain to me how this is BLIND, because it seems to me like you're saying replacing our players is better than adding to them.

Replacing is much better. I'd rather give guys like Mellette a chance as our #3/4. Go at Steve Smith, Edelman, draft one or two receivers. I've seen what Jacoby can do, and that's far from enough. I've never said anything about replacing Pitta. Pitta is great. Jacoby could've been shown the door, just like Dickson and Clark. Now replace the bums with someone that has potential.

[rmw10]

But he's not a solid #3. Far from it. I would've prefered to used the money elsewhere. That's all.

 

He even fits the salary range for a #4 WR/premier KR, so the point still stands.  He's not some worthless WR.  He's got talent.

[ravensdfan]

 

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  45s

Thought Jacoby Jones visiting the Giants today was a leverage play. Turns out, he turned down more money elsewhere to stay in Baltimore

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Well, gotta love that too.