[News] 2014 Ravens Free Agency Rumor Mill

[Ravens07]

guys if the guy goes and have a great year or two, what the chances of that lasting another two years.. i mean not that he couldnt, but him actually wanting to be play. hes not 31 32, his prime has pasted . the most he could do is offer wisdom, but other than that be honest man. how long will this last, if he signs a two year deal, and only get 62 catches 745 yards and 3 tds he'll be released guaranteed.. bc we have wrs that do that here now, but we'll see. and im hoping he has a great last few years but it isnt something thatll last. we need to try build a team of chemistry, pitta 5yrs, monroe 5yrs, jones, 4yrs. build around that

 

If nothing else, Smith offers fierce offensive leadership. His passion is off the charts. He is still good for 800 yards.  A two year contract is something that would greatly benefit the team.  At this stage, he knows and has admitted he isn't a #1 receiver, but he also said he would exceed any expectations in whatever role he is given. That's our kind of guy.

[DarthRaven85]

Alex Mack!!!

[marshal941]

@stone4 pitta and monroe have nothing to do with are WR's. Jones is not a great receiver and in my opinion never will be. Outside of Smith, we have no proven WR's. I love Marlon Brown but he is still not a proven reliable receiver yet. I don't think we should gamble a whole season on him or a rookie to be a leading receiver. We have no veteran leadership in our WR group other than Smith and he isn't really a "veteran". I think we should draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd and sign Steve Smith.

[stone4]

I think you are the one who needs to wake up because Dallas Clark played well last year outside of a few drops while Pitta was gone. I don't understand why Deion Sanders was brought into this discussion and Stokely was a good signing for the price. No one could predict him getting hurt. That being said, I see you complaining how Marlon Brown will some how be phased out of the offense if Steve signs here as if there is no such thing as 3 and 4 WR sets. And who ever said Steve Smith would take Marlon Browns spot as the #2 receiver.

friend dallas caught 31 passes last playing most the season, hell are you talking about. and stokely? really buddy, love the guy but really was he signing ? what part , oh the one where he caught 13 passes. oh the fact he retired where he started? right.  great. and smith is coming to play the slot more than anything else thats known, and no im not saying marlon would be phased, im saying he played alot of slot last year and caught 7 tds why move him? but bc the name smith looks great on paper youre doing cart wheels.. again WAKE UP SON!!!!

[stone4]

Boldin was with us for three years. It wasn't long-lived. Would you say it was worth it?

i believe, boldin was 29 when we picked him up ... and he was given a chance to build here for years to come if the ravens wanted to do so. and got a ring out of it..hell yeah it was worth it

[Ravens07]

friend dallas caught 31 passes last playing most the season, hell are you talking about. and stokely? really buddy, love the guy but really was he signing ? what part , oh the one where he caught 13 passes. oh the fact he retired where he started? right.  great. and smith is coming to play the slot more than anything else thats known, and no im not saying marlon would be phased, im saying he played alot of slot last year and caught 7 tds why move him? but bc the name smith looks great on paper youre doing cart wheels.. again WAKE UP SON!!!!

 

Actually, Clark played in only 12 games and started 0, yet still finished with 31 rec, 343 yards, and 3 TDs. Let me ask, was signing Shannon Sharpe "past his prime" a bad move?

[stone4]

@stone4 pitta and monroe have nothing to do with are WR's. Jones is not a great receiver and in my opinion never will be. Outside of Smith, we have no proven WR's. I love Marlon Brown but he is still not a proven reliable receiver yet. I don't think we should gamble a whole season on him or a rookie to be a leading receiver. We have no veteran leadership in our WR group other than Smith and he isn't really a "veteran". I think we should draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd and sign Steve Smith.

youre absolutely right. so why not push for nicks, james jones, hell .. even sanders. thats my point, someone who we can look forward to having around, not renting a player

[jrledee]

Ozzie needs to sign center Dietrich-Smith, Evan. He is young and a top center in the league

and no one has talked about him

[Ravens07]

i believe, boldin was 29 when we picked him up ... and he was given a chance to build here for years to come if the ravens wanted to do so. and got a ring out of it..hell yeah it was worth it

 

I referred to Boldin in response to short-lived arrangements with players, not age.

[plantsman]

IMHO another vet receiver for the slot would be nice and all but as always I say fix the line first. So if we sign Smith I hope it is on the cheap and we can still go after a top notch FA center.

[balfan23]

friend dallas caught 31 passes last playing most the season, hell are you talking about. and stokely? really buddy, love the guy but really was he signing ? what part , oh the one where he caught 13 passes. oh the fact he retired where he started? right.  great. and smith is coming to play the slot more than anything else thats known, and no im not saying marlon would be phased, im saying he played alot of slot last year and caught 7 tds why move him? but bc the name smith looks great on paper youre doing cart wheels.. again WAKE UP SON!!!!

Well, if you really feel like bringing Smith in is going to be an epic failure, it is not RavensManiac you need to yell at to wake up, you need to do it to the FO, because it seems like they are aggressively pursing this signing. 

 

Please - you are really bringing up Stokley as a comparison? I really think Smith has something left in the tank and he plays like a Raven. We need a guy who is willing to float across the middle, get blasted in the chops, hold onto the ball and say, thank you sir, may I have another. 

 

He's a bridge to the future and we're a good enough team to warrant having a guy that adds that much needed toughness and experience to this group. He's not going to put up jaw dropping numbers, but he's going to contribute in a significant positive way.... that is, of course, if we land him. Which is apparently something we're very interested in doing. 

[stone4]

If nothing else, Smith offers fierce offensive leadership. His passion is off the charts. He is still good for 800 yards.  A two year contract is something that would greatly benefit the team.  At this stage, he knows and has admitted he isn't a #1 receiver, but he also said he would exceed any expectations in whatever role he is given. That's our kind of guy.

but for TWO years tops .. really think about it, again  love smith. but are you telling me youd rather get smith for two years than go after nicks for 4 or 5 who also had great years, and once his contract is up we could still re sign for 3 or 4 more years. come on man, be real about. im speaking logic

[RavenManiac20]

friend dallas caught 31 passes last playing most the season, hell are you talking about. and stokely? really buddy, love the guy but really was he signing ? what part , oh the one where he caught 13 passes. oh the fact he retired where he started? right.  great. and smith is coming to play the slot more than anything else thats known, and no im not saying marlon would be phased, im saying he played alot of slot last year and caught 7 tds why move him? but bc the name smith looks great on paper youre doing cart wheels.. again WAKE UP SON!!!!

Hey friend... Clark played well considering he was signed for the vet minimum and was a band aid because we were screwed when Pitta when down. And read what I said before you speak. I said Stokely would have been a good signing but no one could predict he would get hurt. And cool if Smith comes to play the slot, Marlon is on the outside. Who cares? They are all on the field at the same time. I think you're the one who needs to WAKE UP SON!!!! because you sound like a Steeler fan right now. When Steve Smith balls out for us this year you will see. That's all I am saying. 2 years removed from 80 catches and 1400 yards. Half of that production plus his leadership and passion and he is a hell of a pick up.

[RavenManiac20]

but for TWO years tops .. really think about it, again  love smith. but are you telling me youd rather get smith for two years than go after nicks for 4 or 5 who also had great years, and once his contract is up we could still re sign for 3 or 4 more years. come on man, be real about. im speaking logic

Obviously everyone would take Nicks over Smith... the problem is the FO doesn't seem interested in Nicks. Probably will get too much of a big contract for us to afford at this point. And the 2 years of production COULD lead to another super bowl so don't discount it. That's all I am saying.

[marshal941]

@stone4 Because Nicks is injury prone. I don't think James Jones is good. In my opinion he is a very average player that benefited from Aaron Rodgers. His stats were never even that good even with Rodgers. And Sanders? Don't even know where to begin on him. He is not even CLOSE to Steve Smith. His best season was 740 yds with 6 TDs. This was last year when the Steelers had almost nobody to through to. Plus none of these guys have the veteran leadership that Steve Smith does. I think Steve Smith would be an infinitely better signing than any of the available FA WR's.

[Ravens07]

but for TWO years tops .. really think about it, again  love smith. but are you telling me youd rather get smith for two years than go after nicks for 4 or 5 who also had great years, and once his contract is up we could still re sign for 3 or 4 more years. come on man, be real about. im speaking logic

 

If we win a Super Bowl with him, is it worth it? Nicks comes with a hefty price tag, and he doesn't have the Ravens mentality that Smith does. You don't come across extremely passionate football players everyday, which is why the Ravens are so anxious to snag him.

[stone4]

Actually, Clark played in only 12 games and started 0, yet still finished with 31 rec, 343 yards, and 3 TDs. Let me ask, was signing Shannon Sharpe "past his prime" a bad move?

ibelieve sharpe was 31 and only here 2 years ... there a difference my friend, and uh.. im not sure smith is a sharpe .. 

[Ravens07]

ibelieve sharpe was 31 and only here 2 years ... there a difference my friend, and uh.. im not sure smith is a sharpe .. 

 

Like I said, he was past his prime. Yet, greatly contributed to the Ravens.

[stone4]

Hey friend... Clark played well considering he was signed for the vet minimum and was a band aid because we were screwed when Pitta when down. And read what I said before you speak. I said Stokely would have been a good signing but no one could predict he would get hurt. And cool if Smith comes to play the slot, Marlon is on the outside. Who cares? They are all on the field at the same time. I think you're the one who needs to WAKE UP SON!!!! because you sound like a Steeler fan right now. When Steve Smith balls out for us this year you will see. That's all I am saying. 2 years removed from 80 catches and 1400 yards. Half of that production plus his leadership and passion and he is a hell of a pick up.

ok.  i saw squeeler fan in your reply, im going to even reading the rest. think we're done here  .. how dare you, very disappointed in your choice of words buddy

[stone4]

Like I said, he was past his prime. Yet, greatly contributed to the Ravens.

youre really comparing 31 to 35 ? come on, lets really use logic here my man

[Bandit666]

Smith would be an upgrade over last year. He brings leadership, skill and guts. He also has a chip on his shoulders and has purple in his blood. He is a Ravens type player.

[ravensnj]

@ravensnj We drafted B williams last year. He has a lot of potential. I think signing Wilfork would be great for ngata. He could play limited snaps at D end during running downs with Wilfork at N tackle. That would keep him fresh for playing passing downs. I think this would make our pass rush almost unstoppable with suggs and dumerville at olb and canty and Deanglo Tyson or Lewis-Moore or Williams or whoever else we decide to replace Art with. Then a fresh and rested Ngata at N tackle. This is just my opinion though. I love debating football with others though, so please let me know your opinions.

You know, I forgot about Williams. He's the guy that can walk on his hands! We also,had a QB that could throw the ball threw the goal posts from one knee at 65 yds. Hopefully , Williams will pan out, I saw very little of him last year.

  I love the guy's story though, as he worked hard for everything in his life. Now, he needs to push himself, as the training wheels are off and it's time to become a true Raven.

[respecttheRaven]

Steve Smith # 19 in receiving yards......Sharpe # 40  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_yds_career.htm

[stone4]

If we win a Super Bowl with him, is it worth it? Nicks comes with a hefty price tag, and he doesn't have the Ravens mentality that Smith does. You don't come across extremely passionate football players everyday, which is why the Ravens are so anxious to snag him.

you know the old saying, get what you pay for.. and that IF isnt worth not going for a younger receiver. i totally agree with you on passion, but how long does it last is my point. cant think short term, because we dont get that money back after to think how we can build but thats just me man.. whatever we'll

[marshal941]

@ravensnj Yeah I don't think he played much last year. If I'm not mistaken, i think he was injured. Not positive though. Hopefully he pans out though cause he seems like a great guy. Im really interested to see what Kapron Lewis-Moore can do after sitting out his rookie year with a torn ACL. He could be a very nice surprise next year.

[Ravens07]

youre really comparing 31 to 35 ? come on, lets really use logic here my man

 

Jerry Rice retired at 42; Barry Sanders retired at 30. What's your point?

[stone4]

@stone4 Because Nicks is injury prone. I don't think James Jones is good. In my opinion he is a very average player that benefited from Aaron Rodgers. His stats were never even that good even with Rodgers. And Sanders? Don't even know where to begin on him. He is not even CLOSE to Steve Smith. His best season was 740 yds with 6 TDs. This was last year when the Steelers had almost nobody to through to. Plus none of these guys have the veteran leadership that Steve Smith does. I think Steve Smith would be an infinitely better signing than any of the available FA WR's.

you made the best points so out of every won im going back in fourth with.. youre right injury is a concern, jones is better than average but nothing too special.. but he solid, as well as sander. erase him out he was an example. my point is building chemistry for years to come.. thats all, bc we dont get refunds if he doesnt do well and retires next year.. but again we''l see

[stone4]

Steve Smith # 19 in receiving yards......Sharpe # 40  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_yds_career.htm

you win that argument and more catches and tds

[marshal941]

@Stone4, We don't really need anymore young receivers though. Torrey is young, Marlon is young, and we will probably take a rookie in either the 1st or 2nd. We are missing the Veteran receiver to help guide our young receivers. You have to have a balance of youth and veterans. Its pointless to go after young players that are average just because they are young. Everything in the NFL is an "IF". Its all one big gamble.

[ravensnj]

Jerry Rice retired at 42; Barry Sanders retired at 30. What's your point?

It all depends on the shape you are in. Steve smith appears to be in great shape. 31: Welker& Roddy White'''lol I'll take them over a 24 yr old.