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Is Eric Decker coming Baltimore?(ESPN Rumor)

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Jason Avant is not better than Decker.   That being said, both players are in a completely different ballgame.   Decker is young and ripe for a fat check in FA.  Avant is in his 30's and mired w/ injuries.   Both had some series of success, but neither are really the answer to our passing woes.

 

He isn't a better player, but a better value in terms of what we can probably pay him and what he'll produce, compared to Decker.  Avant is a number 3 receiver who we can pay like a number 3.  Decker is at best a number 2 receiver who will probably get number 1 receiver type money.  I think you're right on when you said Decker will get the fat check.  I think what Avant could give us though is some flexibility in terms of drafting.  As it stands now we should be looking at drafting a receiver capable of taking over the number 2 spot and flipping Marlon to number 3.  Avant may not bring that, but he brings enough stability that if we were to draft somewhat of a project that shouldn't be starting right away, we could probably get away with it.

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He does? Really? That's not what I saw in the Super Bowl

 

In all honesty, he doesn't beat press man and is quite soft. It's why the Broncos use lots of pick routes to keep cornerbacks off their receivers.

 

 

Soft is such an exaggeration. Plenty of film out there where he's outmuscleing DBs and beating them. Look at what he did to KC.

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Soft is such an exaggeration. Plenty of film out there where he's outmuscleing DBs and beating them. Look at what he did to KC.

And look at what Seattle did to him.

 

I went ahead and watched his big highlight film from week 13 and the Broncos used a lot of bunch formations to ensure free releases at the line of scrimmage. He also was wide open on several of those throws because he could just outrun the opposing quarterback and get a perfect pass from Manning. It's also worth noting most of his damage was done against Marcus Cooper (rookie drafted in the 7th round), who was also abused by Demaryius Thomas, with the exception of a long catch against Brandon Flowers.

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I just heard on ESPN that the Ravens are wanting to bring Eric Decker on board. Can anyone confirm this rumor?

Better worrie about a LT, C , RT......

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I have the answer -and it is Marquise Lee at #17

 

Oh man. I love that kid. He's better than Evans but wasn't the buzz at the combine b/c Evans impressed greatly w/ his stature. I'd be verrrry happy taking Lee at #17 and avoiding a big ticket WR like Decker. 

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Jason Avant is not better than Decker.   That being said, both players are in a completely different ballgame.   Decker is young and ripe for a fat check in FA.  Avant is in his 30's and mired w/ injuries.   Both had some series of success, but neither are really the answer to our passing woes.

 

Then who?  I hear this term "not the answer" being thrown around in here quite a bit when it comes to certain players and their positions.  So, I am just wondering "WHO" is this mythical "answer" that we need at a few positions?

 

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Then who?  I hear this term "not the answer" being thrown around in here quite a bit when it comes to certain players and their positions.  So, I am just wondering "WHO" is this mythical "answer" that we need at a few positions?

 

#Mili

Haven't you realized when it comes to these fans, there is no answer? 

 

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I vote NO to us bringing in any FA receivers, unless the price is just right.  Guys like Nicks, Jones, Decker and Edelman all have their different question marks, which is why I wouldn't spend big money on any of them.

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And look at what Seattle did to him.

 

I went ahead and watched his big highlight film from week 13 and the Broncos used a lot of bunch formations to ensure free releases at the line of scrimmage. He also was wide open on several of those throws because he could just outrun the opposing quarterback and get a perfect pass from Manning. It's also worth noting most of his damage was done against Marcus Cooper (rookie drafted in the 7th round), who was also abused by Demaryius Thomas, with the exception of a long catch against Brandon Flowers.

 

What would Seattle do to our current receivers? My original point was he's better at beating press man than any receiver we currently have. Who on our roster is better than him at that? Like I said hes a good #2, I don't see him coming here so the point is moot. 

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Nah, we have M.Brown filling those shoes already

This is what I was thinking. I thought brown is a real gem who can do great things for us, at a great price no less, but he seems to be continuously overlooked in this discussion.

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One guy who I think(depending on how high his asking price is) that is being over looked in the FA WR pool is James Jones, I'm no GM but I think he's worth looking at, could be a nice fit.

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Unlike many here I would not immediately reject the idea of bringing in Decker. I would like for the Ravens to give him or any agent he may have a call, but to be willing to back out if it is clear that it will cost too much. At the same time, we have plenty of open cap space, therefore we do not have to be as careful now as we have in recent years.

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Kurt Warner speculated that Decker would be a good fit in Baltimore.  But everything is speculation.  I would not say no to Decker but he's probably too expensive for us.

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Decker is a jerk too, nasty attitude. His stats nearly doubled Tebow's last year to Mannings first year. (I know that is the complete opposite of the spectrum for QBs, but still.)

 

Product of Manning, overrated, wants too much, bad personality. Stay away please!

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I like how you say we should stop until he proves he's not a product of Manning, but use his best two year stretch under Manning as a reason why he could be good.

Yes, but the other two years were his first two in the NFL and he improved drastically from his rookie season to his second year. Plus let's not forget his quarterback before Manning was Tebow. Flacco is definitely closer to Manning than to Tebow, with a strong arm who likes to throw and can find his guys open when given time. I don't think he's an elite receiver, but he's a really good one and would for sure make our offense better and would make the plays we need guys to make next season.

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There is an article on ESPN that says Decker is overrated and will be over paid in the offseason... But no mention of us.

A much better FA would be Jason Avant. He was cut by Philly, so he wouldn't affect our comp picks next year. Thrives on 3rd down as a reliable possession receiver with good hands. Would be a great value, one right up Ozzies alley.

Jason Avant?  Really

 

Though have to agree, this is the type of player Oz is likely to sign.

 

Only 30 years old and Cheap!

 

Way down Alabama was the town of Daupheen

Way out in the woods among the evergreens

There stood a log cabin made of earth and wood

There lived a country boy name of Ozzie B Goode

He never did learn to read or write so well

But he could pick a football player jus like ringing a bell

Go, Go...Go ozzie go....go go.......

Ozzie B. Goode

 

Decker is a much better albeit more expensive option.  That said, it might be a safer bet to take the Free Agent rather than rely upon Oz's receiver drafting history.

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Jason Avant?  Really

 

Though have to agree, this is the type of player Oz is likely to sign.

 

Only 30 years old and Cheap!

 

Way down Alabama was the town of Daupheen

Way out in the woods among the evergreens

There stood a log cabin made of earth and wood

There lived a country boy name of Ozzie B Goode

He never did learn to read or write so well

But he could pick a football player jus like ringing a bell

Go, Go...Go ozzie go....go go.......

Ozzie B. Goode

 

Decker is a much better albeit more expensive option.  That said, it might be a safer bet to take the Free Agent rather than rely upon Oz's receiver drafting history.

 

Poes...you are hilarious brah!  lol!

 

#Mili

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Just saw where Kurt Warner mentioned that the Ravens would be a good fit for Decker because of Torrey and Jacoby being our burners on the outside to stretch the field and Decker could be that intermediate tough receiver. 

 

I think that Brown could be a tough intermediate receiver for us as well.

 

#Mili

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You could say Peyton Manning has made him look better, but if you go back and watch footage of him, he has made some spectacular catches with some nice yards after the catch. I think it's possible that Manning has helped him improve as a receiver. I wouldn't mind having him on the Ravens, but he's probably gonna cost more than they are willing to pay.

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always liked eric decker, and i think he is exactly the type of guy we need, big, strong, solid athleticism, very dependable hands, toughness to go over the middle, and well rounded enough to run the whole route tree and make catches anywhere on the field, though he is looking for superstar type money, which he is just not worth. id say if he wants to come along for 4-5m a year, then im on board, assuming we can resign monroe, if he wants more then forget about it, also if we cant resign monroe, then scrap the idea altogether and use the cap space for a LT and address receiver by double dipping in the first 3 rounds.

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This is what I was thinking. I thought brown is a real gem who can do great things for us, at a great price no less, but he seems to be continuously overlooked in this discussion.

i think many peoples problem with brown is that he is still an unkown. he disappeared quite often at times last year, and struggled between the 20's and seemed to show up only in the redzone, obviously he had his moments in the open field, just not consistently. i like marlon as much as the next guy, but i wouldnt be ready to put all the eggs in that basket, because he may have hit his ceiling already, durability is a concern, and his lack of body control on back shoulders throws is a head scratcher, because for a guy with his frame and skill set you would think back shoulder throws are his specialty, but he struggles heavily to locate deep balls sometimes. i want the guy on our roster for years to come and want him to get a ton of reps to perfect his craft, but we dont know if he hits a sophomore slump, or if he struggles to develop further.

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i think many peoples problem with brown is that he is still an unkown. he disappeared quite often at times last year, and struggled between the 20's and seemed to show up only in the redzone, obviously he had his moments in the open field, just not consistently. i like marlon as much as the next guy, but i wouldnt be ready to put all the eggs in that basket, because he may have hit his ceiling already, durability is a concern, and his lack of body control on back shoulders throws is a head scratcher, because for a guy with his frame and skill set you would think back shoulder throws are his specialty, but he struggles heavily to locate deep balls sometimes. i want the guy on our roster for years to come and want him to get a ton of reps to perfect his craft, but we dont know if he hits a sophomore slump, or if he struggles to develop further.

 

I can see your point, but I also raise one. With experience, Brown can become lethal at those back shoulder throws. His problem is, he is a very raw player. With game experience, the guy can become the beast that people always thought he could be.

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I can see your point, but I also raise one. With experience, Brown can become lethal at those back shoulder throws. His problem is, he is a very raw player. With game experience, the guy can become the beast that people always thought he could be.

and this is exactly why we all love the guy so much, his potential is unlike anything we've ever seen on this team. we have seen receivers with size, speed, athleticism, and tons of potential, just come and go on a regular basis, because they never had the character or work ethic to make their way on the field and prove anything, and when they did get on the field, the lack of work ethic was obvious. marlon is different, and he could develop into a #1 type receiver, but he isnt there yet, and he was a UDFA last year because of a bad knee injury, im just pointing out that him hitting a ceiling of mediocrity is very plausible. i dont expect that to happen, but it DOES happen in the nfl.

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