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The 2013 Seahawks Defense

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In my humble opinion there was a way that the Seahawks Defense of 2013 could have gotten beaten. They had a special defensive year and I won't discount that by any means! They have proven to stop the best passing game in NFL history (Manning and Co.)

 

How do you guys think they would have done against a potent power Running attack?

 

Not to mention we also had an elite O- line that year in J.O. Edwin Mulitalo, and Mike Flynn.

 

Do you think our own power runner Jamal Lewis in his prime in 2003 (2000+ rushing yards) Plus an elite O-line (Ogden, Multialo, and Flynn) would be able to run over that Defense?

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In my humble opinion there was a way that the Seahawks Defense of 2013 could have gotten beaten. They had a special defensive year and I won't discount that by any means! They have proven to stop the best passing game in NFL history (Manning and Co.)

 

How do you guys think they would have done against a potent power Running attack?

 

Not to mention we also had an elite O- line that year in J.O. Edwin Mulitalo, and Mike Flynn.

 

Do you think our own power runner Jamal Lewis in his prime in 2003 (2000+ rushing yards) Plus an elite O-line (Ogden, Multialo, and Flynn) would be able to run over that Defense?

 

I actually think running the ball straight at the Seahawks is the best way to beat that team. They have an elite secondary, so why keep trying to do something that obviously will not work?? The Broncos were killed because, even though they had an elite offense, they were definitely one dimensional. When that dimension was taken away, we all see what the results were. 43-8

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Its hard to run the ball against a team that will stack the box on you and shutdown your run game. The best way to counter that is to gamble with big throws and playaction plays and try and beat their single coverage...thats how I would do it and I'm pretty sure thats how the Cardinals beat them week 16...PA bomb to Michael Floyd for a score. You also have to play mistake free football too, as much as anyone can against the best defense.

 

To me I feel like Peyton would have came back and made the proper adjustments in the second half to get the Broncos back on track...but the Percy Harvin kick return TD was like a shot of nyquil and put the Broncos and all their aggressiveness to sleep. The Seahawks are just built like a team thats is really tough to beat because they have every possible piece in place- elite running game, elite defense, elite special teams, and a passing game that is  good enough to make things click on offense.

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Running right at them to draw them up and play action to go over their heads. If you able to run the ball on just about any defense, you have the upper hand. 

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I actually think running the ball straight at the Seahawks is the best way to beat that team. They have an elite secondary, so why keep trying to do something that obviously will not work?? The Broncos were killed because, even though they had an elite offense, they were definitely one dimensional. When that dimension was taken away, we all see what the results were. 43-8

That's what 40whiners did and almost won the game if Kaper[profanity deleted]dn't turnover 3 times in the game....lol

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I actually think running the ball straight at the Seahawks is the best way to beat that team. They have an elite secondary, so why keep trying to do something that obviously will not work?? The Broncos were killed because, even though they had an elite offense, they were definitely one dimensional. When that dimension was taken away, we all see what the results were. 43-8

Interesting point too, I think it was Sherman who said that if the Broncos would have called some double moves, they could have gotten lit up because they were sitting on all the short stuff.

The Seahawks d last year was very good, but the best ever? Not close.

Aside from us, the Steelers, Cowboys, Vikings, Raiders, Bears all might have a little something to say about that.

The Seahawks are now the junior members of that club...that's it, nothing more.

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Sharing some thoughts on Seattle since I got to see them a lot this year. Many of the comments above are right on. 

 

What they do well. Seattle's secondary are great route jumpers, they pride themselves on studying tendencies and trying to make picks. Paired with pressure, its tough to beat. The year before, before they added Avril and Bennett, their pass rush was average and so their defense could be taken advantage of more.

 

They actually play zone a lot more than people think. They sit back and drop LBS, QBs panic, are afraid to throw deep and try to dump short passes, but then they swarm and lay a big hit for a 2 yard gain, which gets them fired up and they start yapping. 

 

As commented above, Sherman admitted they could've been had by double moves in the Super Bowl, but Broncos did not use them. 

 

Front 7 swarms exceptionally with great speed but the line is not huge and can be moved especially w/ Bryant out of there. They can be susceptible to the run at times, especially cut back runs. 

 

The things that work best against them.

 

  • Line up in big formations and be patient with it. Try to cut back on them to take advantage of their aggressiveness. You cannot ask your QB to throw 40+ times on them. Because its a secondary led defense, they actually prefer to play pass d, which is unusual. 
  • Catch Earl Thomas out of position on PA and double moves. He flies to the ball, but oftentimes too aggressively and can be had on high throws to taller receivers/TEs.
  • Take repeated shots down the field, away from Sherman. Cannot dink and dunk your way down the field on them. Have to get chunk plays and PI which they are prone to do because they grab a lot. 
  • Try and get Sherman on the occasional back shoulder throw, and make him (and Thomas) tackle because he's thin and his "physicality is overrated." He's not a "tough" enforcer guy, he's actually a skinny, intellectual guy who yaps a lot. The media overrates his ability to press coverage, that's not why he's great. He has rediculous length, plays the ball in the air exceptionally, studies and competes hard.. He is too good on over the top throws, don't even try it, unless its a double move. 

 

Teams that did the best job against them last year

  • Texans - put up 500 yards of offense on them last year. 350 passing, 150 running. Gives us hope that Kubiak's ZBS and PA can work against them.
  • 49ers - In the game they beat the Seahawks, Anquan and Crabtree were effective on back shoulder throws, and Gore got broke free at the end of the game for a long run when he cut back and juked Earl Thomas.
  • TB - were up 21-0 on the seahawks in seattle. Mike James ran for 158 on them, a lot of gashing runs
  • Rams - Zac Stacy ran for 134 on them in STL in a game that went down to the wire. Like James, a lot of gashing runs. 
  • Colts - Andrew Luck burned them by moving in the pocket and taking his deep shots with TY Hilton. 
  • Cardinals - When Arizona beat the Seahawks in Seattle, they took many shots down the field. Drew a lot of PI and got a big contested catch from Floyd away from Sherman to win the game in 1 on 1 coverage. Its a myth that Earl Thomas is everywhere all the time. 
  • New Orleans - in the playoff game, they were surprisingly able to line up big and run the ball effectively.
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I like the hawks D. They put down one of the best offensive campaigns ever... on the biggest stage possible. Their not perfect, but a big game defense will get you Super Bowls. A big game offense... so so...

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