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Ravens releasing Jameel McClain and Vonta Leach

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Sad but expected. Love the leadership and hard-nose play both of them bring/brought.

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Sad but expected. Love the leadership and hard-nose play both of them bring/brought.

Agreed. Very sad but that's business.
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Also, this saves $4.95M.  For 2 guys that aren't long term pieces, this is the move to make.

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Sounds like McClain could be back at a reduced price, but Leach is most likely gone for good.

 

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Thanks for the memories #Ravenation http://twitpic.com/dwu58c  http://twitpic.com/dwu58h

 

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Ryan: Jameel McClain said the news is fresh to him, but he said the team wants him back. Said "the story's not finished."

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Considering the timing, I would expect this move is to free up money for Monroe or Pitta before they hit the open market.

 

In some games last year Leach was only used in a couple of snaps, so it doesn't make sense to keep him.

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so they have 25 million in cap with this move as of now.

You sure it's not $27 million? John Clayton said the cap should be at least $132 million, if not more (could get up to, but will not exceed $135).

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You sure it's not $27 million? John Clayton said the cap should be at least $132 million, if not more (could get up to, but will not exceed $135).

 

well i wasn't adding the extra yet but yeah its up there but right now where at 25 million in cap.

also update on Pitta and Monroe!

 

Aaron Wilson RavensInsider 3 hrs

Ravens in active talks with Eugene Monroe and Dennis Pitta. No deals imminent. Have work to do on both to get something done, per sources

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It's a good move, I feel bad for Vonta though. This is the second time in two years we have cut him, and he really is a great player, but was just not being used enough for the price tag. Also a shame, we could not reunite him with Kubiak as I feel he would have been excited for. 

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Ravens are currently at $106.4M on the cap with these moves.  We can't really project cap space as no one know what the cap is, but it's at least ~$20M or so based on the low number of $126.3M.

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well i wasn't adding the extra yet but yeah its up there but right now where at 25 million in cap.

also update on Pitta and Monroe!

 

Aaron WilsonRavensInsider 3 hrs

Ravens in active talks with Eugene Monroe and Dennis Pitta. No deals imminent. Have work to do on both to get something done, per sources

Imagine if it did hit $135 million. Could you imagine Ozzie with $30 million in cap space to play with?

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I do wonder what number we're looking to pay McClain since we want him back.  I'd be more than happy to give him the vet minimum.  I respect the guy a ton for working hard and coming back from a severe injury, but I'm not sure his value is much more than the minimum.

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Imagine if it did hit $135 million. Could you imagine Ozzie with $30 million in cap space to play with?

 

The Market would be a lot higher.  Usually ozzie just lets everyone else waste their money and plunges in.  With this type of market players will get their value.

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It's a good move, I feel bad for Vonta though. This is the second time in two years we have cut him, and he really is a great player, but was just not being used enough for the price tag. Also a shame, we could not reunite him with Kubiak as I feel he would have been excited for. 

 

Don't feel bad for him he collected his money and did next to nothing. I am glad we finally got rid of him.

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I wish Jameel gets another chance somewhere else.   He had a really promising start @2011  and things just didn't pan out like we expected.   

 

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It's a good move, I feel bad for Vonta though. This is the second time in two years we have cut him, and he really is a great player, but was just not being used enough for the price tag. Also a shame, we could not reunite him with Kubiak as I feel he would have been excited for. 

 

Yeah but the only reason we have cut him twice is because when we did cut him last year, there was no market for him. He had no choice but to re-sign with us. I can actually see us re-signing him later on the down again because I expect no market for him this year either.

 

Guess we are going to go for the trifecta and get Smith, Monroe and Pitta done and keep all three which may be plausible with how much the cap may be now.

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I wish Jameel gets another chance somewhere else.   He had a really promising start @2011  and things just didn't pan out like we expected.   

 

 

I would like to keep Jameel but we got Art and there really isn't any playing time if we end up re-signing Smith. 

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Don't feel bad for him he collected his money and did next to nothing. I am glad we finally got rid of him.

 

I don't think he had a whole lot of value last year to the team, as we barely used him. So I agree, but still, Vota is a hard player, a good leader, and seems like a good guy to have on your team. I won't be glad to see him gone, but agree with the decision.

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Yeah but the only reason we have cut him twice is because when we did cut him last year, there was no market for him. He had no choice but to re-sign with us. I can actually see us re-signing him later on the down again because I expect no market for him this year either.

 

Guess we are going to go for the trifecta and get Smith, Monroe and Pitta done and keep all three which may be plausible with how much the cap may be now.

That's a freaking dream if we landed Smith, Monroe, and Pitta and had a little cash left over. However, I don't see us re signing him again. In reality we probably didn't need him last year, and he took up an active roster spot. I love Leach for how he plays the game, but there was no real need to have 2 FB's on the roster last year, and especially now.

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Not really surprised by these releases.  Thanks for the memories guys and good luck to you the rest of your careers!

 

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Sam Koch is next.   

 

His been in serious decline since 2012

Do you think we will release him without a replacement? Unless we plan on bringing in a vet, we better hang on to him until we know we have someone to take his job. Even with his decline he still is a solid punter.

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Do you think we will release him without a replacement? Unless we plan on bringing in a vet, we better hang on to him until we know we have someone to take his job. Even with his decline he still is a solid punter.

Basically every college punter becomes a UDFA. If we keep Koch it won't be because we're afraid of not being able to find a replacement.

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I'll remember both of their play against the 49ers on Thanksgiving and their contributes to our Super Bowl run. I wish them the best and hope they find good teams for next year.

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Basically every college punter becomes a UDFA. If we keep Koch it won't be because we're afraid of not being able to find a replacement.

 

True, but I would think we wouldn't want to do anything until we felt we had someone capable of replacing him. I think there are several punters that will be that possibility, but I could see us having a competition at it possibly. I just don't think you want to leave the punter position open until you feel you have a solid replacement. A few bad punts here and there can totally change a game.

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I'll remember both of their play against the 49ers on Thanksgiving and their contributes to our Super Bowl run. I wish them the best and hope they find good teams for next year.

Yea, smashing heads with Willis, and Ray Rice tweeting the picture of Lech's busted helmet after the game. 

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Do you think we will release him without a replacement? Unless we plan on bringing in a vet, we better hang on to him until we know we have someone to take his job. Even with his decline he still is a solid punter.

March 3 is the FA.  

 

Sam Koch's number's are below average: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/netAvgPuntYards

 

If it means getting our priority players back in Ravens uniform, i wouldn't be surprised if koch gets out before a 'try out' in TC

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March 3 is the FA.  

 

Sam Koch's number's are below average: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/netAvgPuntYards

 

If it means getting our priority players back in Ravens uniform, i wouldn't be surprised if koch gets out before a 'try out' in TC

That's true, and I think his cap hit is something like 2.5 million. I guess I feel like we would have lumped him in with Mcclain and Leach if we were going to cut him for certain.

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Sad that Leach and McClain had to go, we needed some cap space though.

 

Time for Juice to step up! I expect him to finally have a starting position, get some experience under his belt. He's a flexible fullback who has sticky gloves and good legs, hopefully we can make something outta him.

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Score 1 for EVERY mock offseason on these boards hahaha except I guess we will be keeping Sam Koch.

Thank God!  Koch is an average punter but you cannot forget the importance of a solid holder for FGs and Koch is one of the best!

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Score 1 for EVERY mock offseason on these boards hahaha except I guess we will be keeping Sam Koch.

 

Not necessarily. They might wait until after June 1st.

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Though this had to be done, thanks Vonte for all you contributed to the Ravens. The position of fullback seems to be becoming a thing of the past, much like TE is evolving into a WR type( Graham, Pitta). The game will always change, just wanted to say thanks for your contributions to the team, good luck!

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Good move. I enjoyed having both on the team (especially McClain, who was here when I first started watching football back in 2008), yet they are easily expendable.

McClain was an average LB, and we can get that same kind of production in 2014 from a guy with a lot more upside. Josh Bynes is a good example of a guy who is currently on the team who can do that.

I have doubts about Juice being as good as Leach, but we really didn't have much of a choice in the matter when releasing Leach.

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Thank God! Koch is an average punter but you cannot forget the importance of a solid holder for FGs and Koch is one of the best!

That's a very good point.

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Thank God!  Koch is an average punter but you cannot forget the importance of a solid holder for FGs and Koch is one of the best!

 

You can be sure Tony Romo will never forget it.  It's one of those jobs everyone thinks is a waste of roster space until the guy holding the ball screws up, and I agree, having experienced our own share of kicking woes in Baltimore over the past few seasons, having a solid group of guys working together is important.

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