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Browns release MLB D'Qwell Jackson

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As Ravens fans facing this guy we all know how good he is. Very shocked they released him. Thoughts on potential fit here/price range?

 

2011 - 16 games played 156 tackles

2012 - 16 games played 118 tackles

2013 - 16 games played 138 tackles 

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*is confused*. The Browns had a TON of cap space.. 

 

He may not fit the 4-3 but he's GOOD..

 

What the hell is wrong with them?

there stupid! plus he a great leader who i would love to have him back in baltimore former #terp

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He ranked in the bottom six of inside linebackers in run defense on the Browns last season according to PFF. So I assume he had a down season. 

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He ranked in the bottom six of inside linebackers in run defense on the Browns last season according to PFF. So I assume he had a down season. 

 

I've done quite a bit of research on the Browns being that I'm their GM in our fantasy mock on the boards, and most of Jackson's struggles came because the LB next to him, Craig Robertson, was such a liability in everything that he did.  D'Qwell couldn't handle the 3-4 without any help next to him.

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I'd actually consider bringing him in over Dayrl

 

So would I. D'Qwell is younger and a better player (as much as I like Daryl). D'Qwell would give us Pro Bowl level play, especially in our defense, and a strong leader in the middle. 

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D'Qwell is a beast. Always liked him since his days as a Terp. As long as he's not too pricey, I would take him in a heartbeat. A nice fall back option if Smith is asking too much.

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D'Qwell would be a nice fit if we lose Daryl Smith. He might be the best MLB in free agency now. What are the Browns thinking?

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So would I. D'Qwell is younger and a better player (as much as I like Daryl). D'Qwell would give us Pro Bowl level play, especially in our defense, and a strong leader in the middle. 

daryl is pro bowl level play without the pro bowl appearance. 

 

forget about age, ill take daryl over jackson any day, but if daryl isnt brought back for whatever reason, id love to see dqwell come in and take his place. 

 

just make sure arthur brown gets his reps, dont let a talent like that rot on the bench

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So would I. D'Qwell is younger and a better player (as much as I like Daryl). D'Qwell would give us Pro Bowl level play, especially in our defense, and a strong leader in the middle. 

 

 

 I like   Daryl Smith more  because he's a much better pass defender, He already knows our defensive system, he may not be that all up in your face type leader but he's a leader regardless, he has better height to cover tight ends and he overall in my opinion is a  better play maker.

 

Jackson is 30 and Smith is 31 neither of them are young whipper  snappers any more

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I'd actually consider bringing him in over Dayrl

 

 

Several factors involved here:

 

1.  Jackson is a year younger

 

2.  Jackson is the better run defender

 

3.  Smith is the better pass defender

 

4.  Smith will likely be cheaper

 

5.  Jackson, since he's been released, wouldn't cost a Comp pick to sign

 

6.  If Smith signs elsewhere, he'd garner a Comp pick for the Ravens (or at least a +1 on the lost column, pending other moves)

 

7.  At worst, it creates options for the Ravens and if they still prefer Smith, perhaps gives them a little more leverage to get something done with Smith sooner

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Several factors involved here:

 

1.  Jackson is a year younger

 

2.  Jackson is the better run defender

 

3.  Smith is the better pass defender

 

4.  Smith will likely be cheaper

 

5.  Jackson, since he's been released, wouldn't cost a Comp pick to sign

 

6.  If Smith signs elsewhere, he'd garner a Comp pick for the Ravens (or at least a +1 on the lost column, pending other moves)

 

7.  At worst, it creates options for the Ravens and if they still prefer Smith, perhaps gives them a little more leverage to get something done with Smith sooner

 

All very good points.  I'm still partial to Daryl due to familiarity, but Jackson would be a nice option as well.  I think it depends whether we view Arthur Brown as the starter this year or not.  I think Jackson would be a better option next to Brown since Smith is somewhat similar to Brown.

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We still have McClain. He is a good run stopper knows the defense and will be cheaper than all of them. Pairing him with Arthur Brown is not a bad option. If we can find a play making free safety that would help in coverage more than just resigning Smith.

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We still have McClain. He is a good run stopper knows the defense and will be cheaper than all of them. Pairing him with Arthur Brown is not a bad option. If we can find a play making free safety that would help in coverage more than just resigning Smith.

 

McClain is as good as gone.  He saves nearly $4M, so no, he's not cheaper.

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He ranked in the bottom six of inside linebackers in run defense on the Browns last season according to PFF. So I assume he had a down season. 

Not even close. In 2013 Jackson had 141 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and an INT. That's not a down season.

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All very good points.  I'm still partial to Daryl due to familiarity, but Jackson would be a nice option as well.  I think it depends whether we view Arthur Brown as the starter this year or not.  I think Jackson would be a better option next to Brown since Smith is somewhat similar to Brown.

 

Well regardless if Smith gets re-signed or we bring in Jackson, there is no question Brown will be the starter next to them in our 3-4. 

 

Knowing this... they will probably blow one of their first picks on C.J Mosley now.

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McClain is as good as gone.  He saves nearly $4M, so no, he's not cheaper.

 

I think we get McClain to restructure again and lower his base salary.  For 2013 we got him to come down from $3 million to $1.5 million.

 

His base salary for 2014 is $3.2 million which I think we can all agree is too high.  I would offer him the same $1.5 million which would result in cap savings of $1.7 million versus the full $3.2 million should we cut him.  At $1.5 million he's a solid vet who can contribute and make some plays. 

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We still have McClain. He is a good run stopper knows the defense and will be cheaper than all of them. Pairing him with Arthur Brown is not a bad option. If we can find a play making free safety that would help in coverage more than just resigning Smith.

McClain is cheaper than what Jackson's contract would have been, had he stayed with the Browns, but I'm not so sure about whether he's cheaper than what Jackson is going to get now that he's been released. 

 

McClain is set to get 4.4M this year and we'll save 3.2M if we release him. Now, can we get Jackson for less than that? I think so ... but how much less? We could replace McClain with Jackson only if we feel the savings is worth doing and if we still worry about McClain's long term viability, given his health status. 

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McClain is as good as gone. He saves nearly $4M, so no, he's not cheaper.

I don't think that we will be able to sign smith at less than 4 per year and he will want a signing bonus and guaranteed money. He has become a hot topic teams will be after him.

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Things that make you go Hmmm......

 

 

 

Jeff Darlington of NFL Network reports that Jackson already has a visited lined up for Thursday.  Jackson has declined to name the team, but he calls it a “great place.”

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/26/dqwell-jackson-quickly-lines-up-suitors/

 

Overall 7 teams have contacted him but what would be the "great place" he is speaking of...

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He's a pretty good player. Daryl was excellent last year, though. I think someone may pay more than we will/could.

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He would be a good player to add but the reality is that Daryl was a beast for us last season.  Keep Daryl!

 

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McClain has bad recognition skills, he still hits the wrong gap. Smith is a smart player but doesn't seem to like coming downhill. 

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