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LT Eugene Monroe or TE Dennis Pitta?

If the Ravens can only re-sign one, who is it?   119 votes

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Just curious who everyone thinks is more important to the team if only one can be re-signed.  I personally feel a lineman is more essential due to his effect on the run on pass game and adding some stability to the o line.  The upcoming draft is also deep at TE and WR.  A LT will who can perform at Monroes level at his age will difficult to find as well.  I'm not sure if the team would be able to afford both and think Pitta is out for a payday, which I feel he deserves.

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Pitta is easily one of my favorite Ravens. Love the guy! But we have a better chance of winning with Monroe and not Pitta than we do with Pitta and not Monroe.

 

It's gotta be Monroe.

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...uh...Monroe. It's a no-brainer. I like Pitta a lot but Monroe's protecting Joe. If Monroe isn't there Pitta won't be able to get open and even if he does he won't be able to get the ball. 

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Pitta is clutch but Monroe actively improves the ground game as well as nullifying the blindside rusher.

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LT will always be the more important position. Owen Daniels was an amazing TE under Kubiak. How do we compare Daniels and Pitta? They are completely different types of TE.

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Pitta is a decent TE, that's about it. Not sure why people even consider using the tag on him and pay him 5-10 mil. per year. Let him walk, we'll be fine with most other options we have at TE. Dickson is ok and has looked way better than Pitta early on, then he hit the wall. And who knows what we have in Furstenburg, give him a shot.

 

Monroe it is. Lock him up.

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Pitta is a decent TE, that's about it. Not sure why people even consider using the tag on him and pay him 5-10 mil. per year. Let him walk, we'll be fine with most other options we have at TE. Dickson is ok and has looked way better than Pitta early on, then he hit the wall. And who knows what we have in Furstenburg, give him a shot.

 

Monroe it is. Lock him up.

 

Monroe, or a LT signing is more important.

 

I agree about Furstenburg, but historically speaking the Ravens haven't advanced many players from the practice squad so I see his chance as very slim. The rare advancement from practice squad has caused me to wonder about the quality of practice squads around the league and how the quality of ours may rank.

 

I know it would be just another meaningless column or article but I'd be interested in reading where analyst ranked the quality of team's Practice Squads, maybe twice or quarterly during the season.

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Just curious who everyone thinks is more important to the team if only one can be re-signed.  I personally feel a lineman is more essential due to his effect on the run on pass game and adding some stability to the o line.  The upcoming draft is also deep at TE and WR.  A LT will who can perform at Monroes level at his age will difficult to find as well.  I'm not sure if the team would be able to afford both and think Pitta is out for a payday, which I feel he deserves.

Absolutely by far Eugene Monroe is the more important player. We traded a 4th and 5th round pick to get him and LT is a far more vital position and Dennis Pitta could more easily be replaced.

 

It seems that we are more concentrated on getting Dennis Pitta resigned though...he may in fact be a higher priority than Monroe...or it sure seems that way. Keep hearing talks of using the franchise tag on Pitta if a long term deal cannot be reached before the deadline, while the Monroe talks have been slow at best.

 

Hopefully we could keep both of them but if one must go it has to be Dennis Pitta if not we are going to have a gaping black hole of an o-line.

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Easy choice. LT 2nd most important position on O after QB. Plenty of receiving options in the draft. Only 3 stud LTs in the draft and they'll probally be gone.

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Who actually voted for pitta, show your face?

In was wondering that too. Probably Joe, Dennis and someone who hit the wrong button.

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I do not think we should break the bank for Monroe.. He is a slightly above average LT...

 

I would offer him around 7 million a year and not a penny more

 

Pitta

 

I would offer 5 million and not a penny more..

 

 

Both are replaceable.... I don't see pereniall pro bowl in either one of their futures.

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I do not think we should break the bank for Monroe.. He is a slightly above average LT...

I would offer him around 7 million a year and not a penny more

Pitta

I would offer 5 million and not a penny more..

Both are replaceable.... I don't see pereniall pro bowl in either one of their futures.

Ebron or Amaro would be able to match Pitta IMO.

Good luck on finding someone to replace a top 10 LT with pick 17. This debate is so one sided that it should be locked.

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I do not think we should break the bank for Monroe.. He is a slightly above average LT...

I would offer him around 7 million a year and not a penny more

Pitta

I would offer 5 million and not a penny more..

Both are replaceable.... I don't see pereniall pro bowl in either one of their futures.

I agree that both are replaceable but the LT position is a huge risk because it is truly hit or miss. It's a lot like QB. Granted every position is hit or miss but I feel like LT is especially so. So many LT taken in the first round to ultimately bust.
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I want to keep both of Monroe and Pitta. Monroe is the priority though. An experienced LT in the prime of his career who is considered a top 10 LT. I love Pitta, he's a favourite of mine. But there are many TE's that look pretty good at this combine .. 

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I really think most of you guys are underestimating Pitta. The one time he was at the top of our depth chart for a full season, he was top 10 among TEs in catches, top 6 or 7 in TDs and top 11 in yards.  He's above average at worst, and even last season, he caught 20 passes in 4 games, on pace for 80 in a season.  If we let him go, it just becomes yet another need for this offense, and if we keep him, I'm certain he'll be one of the top producing TEs next year.  Of course I'd rather he not be tagged as a slot WR, but I'm almost compelled to tag him anyway if that does happen.

 

I do think Monroe is a bigger priority though because LT is harder to replace and more important a position.   

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I think a better thread could be Art Jones vs Pitta.

I don't think so. Both are about equally valuable to the team, but Jones will likely get overpaid elsewhere.

 

Pitta is a decent TE, that's about it. Not sure why people even consider using the tag on him and pay him 5-10 mil. per year. Let him walk, we'll be fine with most other options we have at TE. Dickson is ok and has looked way better than Pitta early on, then he hit the wall. And who knows what we have in Furstenburg, give him a shot.

 

Monroe it is. Lock him up.

I agree. I'd like to keep Pitta, but we have guys who can replace him. The same cannot be said for Monroe. As for Dickson, I don't think there's anybody here who seriously thinks he will be back.

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Monroe, we have already seen Joe can't throw off his back. Love Pitta but trust Ozzie. Our O-line needs help bad. Run game needs rejuvenated to and with Ray facing a probable suspension we need it even more.

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I dont know, do you guys think Pitta is overrated a bit just because he's a safety valve and the ravens receivers can't get open often?  I know he has decent hands, but I wouldn't put him in the elite tight end category in the league...I think he's just a guy benefiting from the system/personnel in place.   Am I off here?

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I dont know, do you guys think Pitta is overrated a bit just because he's a safety valve and the ravens receivers can't get open often? I know he has decent hands, but I wouldn't put him in the elite tight end category in the league...I think he's just a guy benefiting from the system/personnel in place. Am I off here?

I don't think he's overrated but he isn't Gronk or Graham either. He's a very good route runner with excellent hands and great chemistry with Joe. Underrated athleticism too.

He is an important piece in our offense and if we can't resign him I'll be disappointed. Monroe is clearly the more important player though.

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I don't think so. Both are about equally valuable to the team, but Jones will likely get overpaid elsewhere.

I agree. I'd like to keep Pitta, but we have guys who can replace him. The same cannot be said for Monroe. As for Dickson, I don't think there's anybody here who seriously thinks he will be back.

That's what I'm saying. It would make for a better debate. Choosing between Monroe & Pitta is a no brainer for me and the poll is lopsided in Monroe's favor.

It's really hard for me to decide between Jones & Pitta. I'd favor Jones I guess but that's tough.

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Just curious who everyone thinks is more important to the team if only one can be re-signed.  I personally feel a lineman is more essential due to his effect on the run on pass game and adding some stability to the o line.  The upcoming draft is also deep at TE and WR.  A LT will who can perform at Monroes level at his age will difficult to find as well.  I'm not sure if the team would be able to afford both and think Pitta is out for a payday, which I feel he deserves.

 

If we're talking fair value for both players, it has to be Monroe.  Obviously if one guy is about to be grossly overpaid by another team than it doesn't matter, but just look at how many tight ends have been coming into the league from almost every round in the last few years and making an impact, and then look at how long we took after JO retired to get a guy even at Monroe's level.

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That's what I'm saying. It would make for a better debate. Choosing between Monroe & Pitta is a no brainer for me and the poll is lopsided in Monroe's favor.

It's really hard for me to decide between Jones & Pitta. I'd favor Jones I guess but that's tough.

 

Yeah the same for me.  I kind of look at it this way - if I'm talking fair value for any of these guys, I'll take the left tackle and the game-changing return guy, but the fact is the one guy we should get back easily is Daryl, and the hardest guy to replace is Monroe.  So then it may come down to either overpaying a starting tight end vs. overpaying a 3rd receiver/return man, and just how much we'd have to overpay for either.

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Yeah the same for me. I kind of look at it this way - if I'm talking fair value for any of these guys, I'll take the left tackle and the game-changing return guy, but the fact is the one guy we should get back easily is Daryl, and the hardest guy to replace is Monroe. So then it may come down to either overpaying a starting tight end vs. overpaying a 3rd receiver/return man, and just how much we'd have to overpay for either.

Meant Art vs Dennis
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That's what I'm saying. It would make for a better debate. Choosing between Monroe & Pitta is a no brainer for me and the poll is lopsided in Monroe's favor.

It's really hard for me to decide between Jones & Pitta. I'd favor Jones I guess but that's tough.

JJ or Art Jones? I would also take JJ over Pitta, just because I think such an explosive returner would be more difficult to replace.

Art Jones is probably gone. Somebody will overpay him

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I dont know, do you guys think Pitta is overrated a bit just because he's a safety valve and the ravens receivers can't get open often?  I know he has decent hands, but I wouldn't put him in the elite tight end category in the league...I think he's just a guy benefiting from the system/personnel in place.   Am I off here?

 

I would say he's overrated in the sense that certain people talk about him like he can't be replaced with some good drafting - the fact that he has been so vital to the offense in the past is more of a reflection on the lack of other quality targets than on Pitta's ability.  Really this season Joe had 2 known options - Torrey and Dennis when he got back.  Marlon is still learning the game, Clark and Stoke are done, Doss is a good ST player with some receiving ability but not great, Thompson is never healthy.  So when looking at it, Dennis is important because there really is nobody else, just like when Mase and Heap were here, they were so vital to Joe because he had nobody else to throw to - when he got some pieces in 2010, both of their reception totals dropped.  If we were to actually draft a few pieces to spread the ball out a bit more (in Joe's tenure we've spent exactly 1 second and 1 third round pick on a receiver and TE, that's 2/18 picks) I think the story would be different.

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Monroe for obvious reasons. But I think we find a way to keep both.

Maybe Joe can throw some money Pittas way to keep his buddy around. If not, I personally would let Pitta designate himself as a WR and then negotiate on the basis of his production as a WR. He'd essentially have the value of a Jacoby Jones without the return ability.

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Monroe no doubt. But I would also say that Daryl Smith ranks above Pitta. Daryl has been awesome in the middle of our defense. Then worry about Pitta.

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@jdynamite I don't feel we will be able to afford him.  I feel a team out bids us for him and I also think we have people to replace his as far Tyson and Lewis-Moore.  There are no replacements for Monroe or Pitta currently on the roster, though potential fill ins in the draft for Pitta.  LT is real hit or miss and not something you put blind faith in.  Also, the defense shouldn't take that big of a hit if Jones does leave, while if Pitta or Monroe aren't re-signed, that adds another hole that needs to be addresses on an already poor offense.

 

Even with Art on the list, I still think Monroe would dominate the vote.

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I am torn between the two.  Pitta is a top 5 TE and Monroe a top 10 LT.  I think Monroe could be that franchise LT, which is the second most important position on a team.  But Pitta is more than a TE.  He's that clutch guy for Flacco rely on.  Pitta can catch about anything thrown near him.

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I am torn between the two.  Pitta is a top 5 TE and Monroe a top 10 LT.  I think Monroe could be that franchise LT, which is the second most important position on a team.  But Pitta is more than a TE.  He's that clutch guy for Flacco rely on.  Pitta can catch about anything thrown near him.

Pitta is NOT a top 5 TE he can't block which take him way out of that range he a decent to good TE but he is no where near Great or top 5. monroe yes is a top 10 LT and LT is more important than a TE that can just catch and he coming of a serious injury and he going to be 29.

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I want to keep both of Monroe and Pitta. Monroe is the priority though. An experienced LT in the prime of his career who is considered a top 10 LT. I love Pitta, he's a favourite of mine. But there are many TE's that look pretty good at this combine .. 

 

Agreed.  With the Cap space they've created and if the rumors of the Cap going up to $130-132M, I don't see any reason that they can't keep both. 

 

That's not to say that they will, but if they can get Monroe done before March 11th and get Pitta tagged or signed, they should still have enough wiggle room to do other things.  Getting them both signed long term would be ideal.

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Agreed.  With the Cap space they've created and if the rumors of the Cap going up to $130-132M, I don't see any reason that they can't keep both. 

That's not to say that they will, but if they can get Monroe done before March 11th and get Pitta tagged or signed, they should still have enough wiggle room to do other things.  Getting them both signed long term would be ideal.

there's also word on the streets that we are trying to extend a couple more players Ngata and Yanda come to mind), even if initial conversations with players and/or their representatives didn't go well; i would be very surprised if anybody would accept the very first offer they get anyway, so we might get something done there to save even more towards the cap

Monroe's deal is pivotal for everything we do this year in FA; sign him and then we know the money left for other players; tag pitta if nothing gets done before the deadline; though i'm pretty sure we won't be losing any of the players we covet and are within reach - monroe, pitta and d smith; arthur jones might just be too pricey for what we can do, unfortunatelly

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Pitta is NOT a top 5 TE he can't block which take him way out of that range he a decent to good TE but he is no where near Great or top 5. monroe yes is a top 10 LT and LT is more important than a TE that can just catch and he coming of a serious injury and he going to be 29.

I'll agree that, overall, Pitta is not a top 5 TE, but he is a top 5 TE when it comes to the passing game.  You can't stick a LB on him in coverage, it just won't work.  Again the LT position is more important, so again I'm torn.

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Gotta agree with the majority here. The more valuable player, if we can only choose 1, is Monroe. Not to say Pitta is not valuable, because he is. But I also agree that breaking the bank to keep him would be foolish. If both guys are reasonable we should be able to keep both.

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