Salary cap raise? Sources says YES!

[ThePurpleWall]

with the seemingly raise in the salery cap coming or is already here, how much room will we have since Eugene Monroe says he wont give a discount, Michael other im not sure about a discount.

[Mt. Crushmore]

John Clayton just tweeted that a source told him the cap will be at $132 million.

 

https://twitter.com/ClaytonESPN/status/437287507110014976

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Isn't there suppose to big a jump in cap next season?

[mg90]

John Clayton just tweeted that a source told him the cap will be at $132 million.

https://twitter.com/ClaytonESPN/status/437287507110014976

Isn't that 2 million more now?

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

If the cap really is $132 million then that means we have $21,677,225 in cap space before we make any cuts.After the inevitable release of McClain we'll have 24,877,225 in cap.We can keep everybody we want to keep with that much cap space!!!

[RayRicefan2720]

If the cap really is $132 million then that means we have $21,677,225 in cap space before we make any cuts.After the inevitable release of McClain we'll have 24,877,225 in cap.We can keep everybody we want to keep with that much cap space!!!

 

If we would happen to cut Rice (not saying they would, just if it turned out he was in very deep trouble), is it true that I heard it would be 5,000,000 some against our cap? So would he just count against this years, or however long his contact is?

[mg90]

If we would happen to cut Rice (not saying they would, just if it turned out he was in very deep trouble), is it true that I heard it would be 5,000,000 some against our cap? So would he just count against this years, or however long his contact is?

We have dead money for however long we signed him as far as I know, if we cut him. But I've heard after this year, it could make a lot of sense to cut him if he doesn't perform well. I'm sure there is some amount of dead money associated with that too.

[TXRavensFan]

We have dead money for however long we signed him as far as I know, if we cut him. But I've heard after this year, it could make a lot of sense to cut him if he doesn't perform well. I'm sure there is some amount of dead money associated with that too.

A players signing bonus is spread evenly over the length of the contract. So, if that player is cut before the end of the contract, while the team wouldn't have to pay the yearly salary, the remainder of the bonus becomes due.

As a very simplistic example, a $10m signing bonus on a 5 year contract would count $2m against the cap each year of the contract in addition to base salary. So if that player was cut after the 2nd year of the contract ($4m of the bonus already "paid for"), the remaining $6m of the bonus would be counted against the next year's cap.

That's just a basic example to give the gist of what happens.

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With the money resign Monroe and try to sign Smith.  If you sign Smith cut McClain.  Depending on how much cap is left, franchise Pitta if at the TE rate.  I personally feel cap space is more valuable than draft picks in certain situations, this is one.  I'd draft a TE and move up from the 2nd to get a receiver.  If a deal is worked out for Pitta, cool, if not try to trade him.  My goal as a GM would be to reach fair contracts with players if I'm able while not over paying.  If Monroe and Pitta both cost too much, accept it and move on.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

If we would happen to cut Rice (not saying they would, just if it turned out he was in very deep trouble), is it true that I heard it would be 5,000,0

00 some against our cap? So would he just count against this years, or however long his contact is?

 

 

If we cut Rice we would have $14,250,000 in dead money against our cap this year.Not a smart move at all....

[BmoreBird22]

 

If we cut Rice we would have $14,250,000 in dead money against our cap this year.Not a smart move at all....

We'd have $5.5 since you subtract dead money by cap hit, but it still means we'd be paying for a player not on our team.

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We'd have $5.5 since you subtract dead money by cap hit, but it still means we'd be paying for a player not on our team.

 

But think of the savings down the line.  If you think about it, if he's cut, McClain and Koch, doesn't that put us about right were the team thought they would be anyway cap space wise, before the cap was pushed back?

[BmoreBird22]

 

But think of the savings down the line.  If you think about it, if he's cut, McClain and Koch, doesn't that put us about right were the team thought they would be anyway cap space wise, before the cap was pushed back?

That's a dumb idea since Rice is a veteran, wouldn't save money and would only cost us (so you'd suggest cutting two more players for a total of three just to mitigate the cap hit of one? Glad you aren't a GM), and would cost us a player who was generally really great.

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That's a dumb idea since Rice is a veteran, wouldn't save money and would only cost us (so you'd suggest cutting two more players for a total of three just to mitigate the cap hit of one? Glad you aren't a GM), and would cost us a player who was generally really great.

 

First, never said I would, I said think about it.  It's not worth it cause we're now a down player that would need to be addressed through draft of FA and the amount it would take to do it.  I'm opposed to it, this year at least.  Also, I think McClain and Koch are potential casualties anyway, due to cutting them saves more money than it costs and a punter can be replaced quite easily.  My only point was, the team is able to take the hit now and would possibly improve the cap for later years.

[GrimCoconut]

There's a lot of talk about cutting Leach, Koch & Jameel McClain. We seem to cut players when they're either viewed as irrelevant, upgraded, have declining performances or have bad attitudes. That seems to be our MO as evidenced by the cuts we've made in the past. I feel we may have an upgrade on McClain in Brown, as we also have Bynes as well. McClain's play wasn't that great, either, so there's a strong case for him to be cut. We could use that money to re-sign Smith if that's our wish. I'm still not sure if that's what we will do here. I'm sure it's what we hope happens, but I feel like Ozzie & Co believe they can replace Smith if he walks. 

 

As for Leach, his fate is tied directly to a Kubiak, Juszczyk and our draft. If we believe we can mitigate the loss we'll cut him again just like we did last year. Leach was irrelevant last year, so he does fit the MO. Kubiak and him do, however, have familiarity so there is a possibility he could remain on this team. 

 

Finally, Sam Koch. He's an anomaly of sorts as he could go either way. His performance has declined but he has had his good moments as well. Those moments could end up saving him, honestly. I'm not convinced he'll get cut. I don't see the evidence yet. As I said, the reasons mentioned as why players get cut here and outside of occasional declined performances I'm not sold on the prospect of him getting cut. 

 

Granted, everything is about money and that runs it all but Ozzie doesn't seem to cut players just because they cost a lot. That would be stupid because we'd be cutting a ton of guys. No, we cut players who fit one or more of those four criteria.

[rmw10]

Looks like it could be even higher:

 

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk  11m

Source: Salary cap will exceed $132 million this year, possibly by a few million http://wp.me/p14QSB-9q44 

[Yatagarasu]

Hurry up and lock up Monroe and Pitta because there's a lot of teams with money to burn for quality players. However, if both of those players are looking for money instead of winning, then I say let them walk and use the money to get quality players elsewhere. 

[Yatagarasu]

Good thing we locked up Flacco for a while because I wouldn't doubt a team would throw $25 million for a starting QB these days.

[BBoogieMan]

ALEX MACK!!!

[izvoodoo]

this certainly opens up the tag for monroe.

[Bravens292]

Lets say we are at 132 mil just to use an exact # (might be higher soon), where does that leave us not including expected cuts like Koch and McClain?

[Purple_ICE 81]

So the salary cap will be at $135M now?...anyone know if that has been confirmed? Makes me wonder how many more of our guys if any will be cap casualties.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Lets say we are at 132 mil just to use an exact # (might be higher soon), where does that leave us not including expected cuts like Koch and McClain?

Pushing towards $25M in space Im pretty sure. The most we have had in a longtime

[Ravenskid52752]

So the salary cap will be at $135M now?...anyone know if that has been confirmed? Makes me wonder how many more of our guys if any will be cap casualties.

not comfirmed yet but the cap could go as far up as that 135 million. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/25/5446844/2014-nfl-salary-cap-132-million-report

[Purple_ICE 81]

not comfirmed yet but the cap could go as far up as that 135 million. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/25/5446844/2014-nfl-salary-cap-132-million-report

Kind of makes me want to get an Eric Decker avatar ready haha but not really

[Ravenskid52752]

Kind of makes me want to get an Eric Decker avatar ready haha but not really

but they also said there might be that many cap cas as many people might think. but we might have a a shot at Alex mack NOW (if he hits the market)

[Purple_ICE 81]

but they also said there might be that many cap cas as many people might think. but we might have a a shot at Alex mack NOW (if he hits the market)

Yea thats why I said in my original post that I wonder if we will cut Sam Koch, Jameel Mcclain, or Vonta Leach. I would think leach is a sure thing to be cut because it seems like we are set on using Juice as our Hback, maybe we are waiting on cutting Mcclain until after we see the fate of Daryl Smith. Im sure there will still be some notable cuts by other teams too, the Cowboys for example are 20M over the cap and will likely have to cut Damarcus Ware, Miles Austin and a few other players to get back into the positives.

[Ravenskid52752]

Yea thats why I said in my original post that I wonder if we will cut Sam Koch, Jameel Mcclain, or Vonta Leach. I would think leach is a sure thing to be cut because it seems like we are set on using Juice as our Hback, maybe we are waiting on cutting Mcclain until after we see the fate of Daryl Smith. Im sure there will still be some notable cuts by other teams too, the Cowboys for example are 20M over the cap and will likely have to cut Damarcus Ware, Miles Austin and a few other players to get back into the positives.

yeah tough break for Demarcus ware ,man great pass rusher hey would he want to come on a certain team that coulde use his service lol.

[Purple_ICE 81]

yeah tough break for Demarcus ware ,man great pass rusher hey would he want to come on a certain team that coulde use his service lol.

The NFL wouldn't let the Ravens have a Suggs/Dumervil/Ware combo. Too many sacks and QB injuries...so don't get any ideas haha.

[Ravenskid52752]

The NFL wouldn't let the Ravens have a Suggs/Dumervil/Ware combo. Too many sacks and QB injuries...so don't get any ideas haha.

OMG can you image ware, suggs and Doom all on the same team with ngata in the middle holy hell its injuryland all QB will be hurt..lol