Report: LT Eugene Monroe one of Ravens' priorities

[BloodRaven]

Funny how most of the board thought he'd sign for under 7 million.

[Tank 92]

Players hate the tag because it has no benefits for injury or long term assurance. They're not motivated to play hard because they could risk injury, and that money is all guaranteed. It's not like a regular contract with incentives where they have to earn it.

 

 

I agree with the first part in normal circumstances, but Monroe has no tenure here. It seems getting tagged would be more of a calculated gamble by him than an instance where he holds all the cards. 

 

Not motivated to play hard? I doubt that's the case. Fact is an injury is more likely to happen if a player isn't playing hard. And Monroe has nothing to gain by half stepping, and in the long run, everything to lose.

[Tank 92]

Funny how most of the board thought he'd sign for under 7 million.

 

They didn't know the market value of a top 10 LT, especially one that is 26 and healthy.

 

Monroe will be a Raven in 2014 and he'll be making top $.

[GrimCoconut]

We need to get this done ASAP.

[T3hRaven]

Funny how most of the board thought he'd sign for under 7 million.

 

Based on the contracts last off-season, it seemed logical.

[izvoodoo]

Exactly, not to mention Gaither.

It's a fair point, but I don't think anyone thinks Monroe will play under the tag, they'll just use it to extend the negotiations.

[T3hRaven]

Exactly, not to mention Gaither.

 

For a guy who wasn't motivated, Gaither's natural ability still made him a top 10 LT when he was on the field.

[Moderator 3]

i understand the dislike of it as the player for the lack of security a long term contract offers. Lets say they play terrible all year to "avoid" injury who is going to pay them the following free agency for a poor season? pretty sure most players are known to perform better on their last year of a contract.  tagging wont make Monroe play worse is all im saying.

Probably not, but it usually makes the player hold out of training camp. With a whole new offense going in this year, we need our players in camp.

[52520Andrew]

Based on the contracts last off-season, it seemed logical.

 

Clady got paid 57.5 over 5 years for Denver last year so trust me, someone will pay for Monroe if it isn't us. Even last year he would have gotten paid by someone. Frankly, I could see Monroe get 10 mil per, the question is going to be if we are willing to pay him that or is someone else going to? And I see us paying him because he is going to be that important to us unless someone pays an insane amount like the Dolphins might.

[lgcs27288]

The Dolphins have already said they are going to jump all over Monroe if given the chance. We need to not let that happen.

[JO_75]

Franchise Tag numbers are set and the Tag for all OL is $11.654M.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/28/franchise-tag-numbers-for-2014-are-set/

 

Way more than I expected, we better get a deal done.

[52520Andrew]

Franchise Tag numbers are set and the Tag for all OL is $11.654M.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/28/franchise-tag-numbers-for-2014-are-set/

 

Way more than I expected, we better get a deal done.

 

I would still put that tag on him in a heartbeat. I have confidence that we could get it done with the tag in place. I think both sides want to get the deal done and I think with the tag in place both sides would hammer it out. It would be ideal to get it done before the tag deadline but if we don't tag him, we will probably lose him. 

[Bruce_Almty]

If we can't do a deal with Monroe we will have lots of $$$ to make a run at Alex Mack C in Cleveland. Although I hope we get Monroe re-signed AND go after Mack.

[izvoodoo]

If we can't do a deal with Monroe we will have lots of $$$ to make a run at Alex Mack C in Cleveland. Although I hope we get Monroe re-signed AND go after Mack.

That'd be incredibly unlikely.  Mack will command a lot of money.  So will Monroe.

 

Franchise Tag numbers are set and the Tag for all OL is $11.654M.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/28/franchise-tag-numbers-for-2014-are-set/

 

Way more than I expected, we better get a deal done.

I still feel like we should tag him.  LTs are impossible to find and ALWAYS expensive.

[Tank 92]

If we can't do a deal with Monroe we will have lots of $$$ to make a run at Alex Mack C in Cleveland. Although I hope we get Monroe re-signed AND go after Mack.

 

 

I'd rather see this happen than going after a big $ WR or S.  The O line needs to be priority 1 now that Pitta is signed.

[Bruce_Almty]

That's my thinking also Tank-- take care of the O-line, take care of Joe, take care of the offense.

[HoldingCall]

Hopefully they reach a deal with Monroe but if he hits the market will the team may go after LT Brandon Albert of Kansas City? He's older at 29 and may be cheaper but is he worth the difference in savings? 

 

LT ranking from January 2013 list Albert 13th and Monroe 8th among top tackles.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444308-br-nfl-1000-top-35-left-tackles/page/29

 

A franchise tag will not be unreasonable for Monroe but will require more contract work next season. 

[rmw10]

Hopefully they reach a deal with Monroe but if he hits the market will the team may go after LT Brandon Albert of Kansas City? He's older at 29 and may be cheaper but is he worth the difference in savings? 

 

LT ranking from January 2013 list Albert 13th and Monroe 8th among top tackles.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444308-br-nfl-1000-top-35-left-tackles/page/29

 

A franchise tag will not be unreasonable for Monroe but will require more contract work next season.

 

That doesn't necessarily have to be true.  I think most of us are operating under the assumption that the tag would be a placeholder until we can reach a deal a little bit later this offseason.  The goal is to keep him off of the market.  If we think we can get him to a deal sometime in the first few days of FA, the tag is a real possibility.  If they decide that their differences are too much and we aren't going to get something done long term, I don't see the tag happening.

[izvoodoo]

That doesn't necessarily have to be true.  I think most of us are operating under the assumption that the tag would be a placeholder until we can reach a deal a little bit later this offseason.  The goal is to keep him off of the market.  If we think we can get him to a deal sometime in the first few days of FA, the tag is a real possibility.  If they decide that their differences are too much and we aren't going to get something done long term, I don't see the tag happening.

That's what I'm thinking.  We'll miss 14 days of free agency, but we have to keep monroe.  

[BloodRaven]

Based on the contracts last off-season, it seemed logical.

 

More like wishful thinking, far worse blindside tackles were signing for more last offseason.

[CapoRocky]

I would give Monroe in the neighborhood of $55 M for 5 years because of his age, durability, and the simple fact that he's one of the best LTs available.

[izvoodoo]

I would give Monroe in the neighborhood of $55 M for 5 years because of his age, durability, and the simple fact that he's one of the best LTs available.

That's higher than we're hoping, I'm sure.  I think we want him under 50, I think he gets 45.

[GrimCoconut]

I'd give him 10M because of how much the cap has increased. 10m annually is now equivalent to 7m last year due to the massive increase in cap space

[Yatagarasu]

We gave Ngata $12 million per year, but he was the best NT of that time.

[mg90]

I'd give him 10M because of how much the cap has increased. 10m annually is now equivalent to 7m last year due to the massive increase in cap space

7/126 \= 10/132 but if they're coming out and saying the cap will keep rising it kinda feels like we can treat it like those proportions.

[Dnyce215]

That's higher than we're hoping, I'm sure. I think we want him under 50, I think he gets 45.

Let me be real here...... it is not gonna happen, remember Miami is waiting to pay him. Pay the man give him a contract that is cap friendly

[Poes Crows]

Hopefully they reach a deal with Monroe but if he hits the market will the team may go after LT Brandon Albert of Kansas City? He's older at 29 and may be cheaper but is he worth the difference in savings? 

 

LT ranking from January 2013 list Albert 13th and Monroe 8th among top tackles.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444308-br-nfl-1000-top-35-left-tackles/page/29

 

A franchise tag will not be unreasonable for Monroe but will require more contract work next season. 

 

This "report" was "compiled" before the 2013 season.  It's dated. If they really are "evaluating" these players the ranking needs adjustment.  There are guys on the list that were despised and cut by their teams.  There's other guys that are clearly ranked far too low. 

 

Anyone that believes Monroe is top 8 could make these lists for Bleacher Report!

[HoldingCall]

That doesn't necessarily have to be true.  I think most of us are operating under the assumption that the tag would be a placeholder until we can reach a deal a little bit later this offseason.  The goal is to keep him off of the market.  If we think we can get him to a deal sometime in the first few days of FA, the tag is a real possibility.  If they decide that their differences are too much and we aren't going to get something done long term, I don't see the tag happening.

Agreed! A tag would not make sense in that instance. If an agreement is likely then a tag could happen, or they can let him test the market.

[HoldingCall]

That's higher than we're hoping, I'm sure.  I think we want him under 50, I think he gets 45.

Considering the tag for LT is 11m, I see 45 for 5 yrs (9m) as too low, unless he's rated above his true worth and is not as good as given credit for.

[Dnyce215]

Agreed! A tag would not make sense in that instance. If an agreement is likely then a tag could happen, or they can let him test the market.

We gonna waste a Draft pick and get one In Return for him leaving? Nope we working to get the best dollar for both sides to work with, going to have Joe getting hit on more than a pretty women in a club, without Monroe on the blind side