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2014 Forum Mock: Announcement Thread

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Hey Br.Com Forum Users, it's that time of year again. Draft game season.

We have two games this year. The Br.Com mock offseason, which is a typical mock offseason where you take on one of 32 teams, and do a full free agency, and draft. You can also trade certain players, picks, etc, etc.

The Second Game is the Forum Draft, where you can take up a team and draft 26 players to make your own team....

The First Game we play is the mock offseason. This starts shortly after the SB I will post the signup thread on Monday, Feb 3rd.

As soon as this game is finished, and the draft is complete, we will play the Forum Draft game(which will be towards the end of April).


Both of these games have commissioners that includes myself
gabefergy
-Truth-
Mt. Crushmore
Berad
Ed_Reed20
arnie_uk

So If you have any questions hit us up with a PM.......

The rules have not changed much since last year....


Rules (Work In Progress)


- The 2014 Mock Draft Salary Cap shall be set at 
132.5 stars. (1 Star = 1 Million)

- You cannot restructure contracts. You cannot borrow from future cap space or trade future picks
- Everything is rounded to the nearest Half Star (0.5 Star = ½ Million)


Draft value:
You have to leave 5.5 stars for the normal draft, which is 1 pick in every round 1 through 7. You add or subtract stars based on whether you have more or less picks than the normal draft allocation. The values of the stars you add or subtract based on your picks are:

§ 1st round = 2 stars

§ 2nd round = 1 stars

§ 3rd round through 7th round = 0.5 stars each


This lets you know many stars you need to leave for your Rookie class…You cannot gain stars by trading away your picks.


TENDERING

Franchise Tag costs:

  • QB - 14.5 stars
  • RB - 8 stars
  • WR - 10.5 stars
  • TE - 6 stars
  • OL - 9.5 stars
  • DE - 11 stars
  • DT - 8.5 stars
  • LB -9.5 stars
  • CB - 11 stars
  • S - 7 stars
  • K/P - 3 stars

Based on NFL.com LINK

Restricted Free Agents
You place a tender on all your RFA you want to keep. There are three levels of tender depending on how much you value and want to keep your player. The tenders are:


§ 1st round tender = 3 stars

§ 2nd round tender = 2 stars

§ Original round tender = 1.5 stars


Based on Albert Breer Twitter

Another team can bid on a RFA. You bid on the RFA by offering up a contract of X Stars. The players’ current team then can decide to match the contract which means he stays on his current team but with a salary that was the bid. The team that tried to bid for him cannot counter offer. You can only bid on one player once, however another team can make a higher bid again.

If his current team doesn’t match the offer, the RFA signs for the bidding team at the contract bid for. That team then has to give up the draft pick that was tendered on the RFA.

Exclusive Rights Free Agents
Exclusive rights Free agents cost 0.5 stars if you want to resign them. They cannot be bid on.

***DATE for RFA, ERFAs and Franchise Tag Tenders to be placed is: February 22, 2014***


Cutting Players
Go to SPOTRAC find a player’s salary for the 2014 year.
How to Navigate Spotrac Website:


§ Choose your team (ex. Baltimore Ravens)

§ Click heading “2014 Cap Hits” (Should look like THIS page)

§ Find your player (ex. Terrell Suggs)

§ There are Four columns


Cap Saved = Cap Hit - Dead Money
When you cut the player you Cap Saved = Cap Hit - Dead Money, your team incurs all signing and/or other bonuses as dead money to your cap if there is any.
Ex. Cutting Terrell Suggs would mean you would save 6.5 stars


 Once the cut player becomes a UFA, he is added to the Free Agency pool. Please try to make your cuts before real FA starts so we have an idea of the cut players available and can add them to the list of available FAs.

Please try and get cuts done before FA for that position.

WE WILL HAVE A THREAD FOR CUTS AND RESIGNINGS TO MAKE FA LISTS EASIER. PLEASE POST EVERY CUT AND RESIGNING IN THIS THREAD AS WELL AS YOUR STATE OF THE FRANCHISE POST.

In the format:
Team
Postion and Player - stars saved
Example:
Baltimore Ravens
OLB Terrell Suggs – 6.5 stars

 

 

Special Cut Rule 

The June 1st Cut Rule is in place here. One person is allowed to make ONE CUT with the base salary only ignore the dead money for this one. .....

Trades:
Using previous blue link, if you trade away a player, you get extra stars based on his base salary, or if you trade for a player you lose stars based base salary. Both guys post in the trade thread the details of the trade (in the format that Mt. Crushmore wants).
Example:
Baltimore Ravens get:
1st rounder (pick 6)
Cleveland Browns get:
OLB, Terrell Suggs (6.5 stars)
- In this case Baltimore would save 6.5 stars but would need 3 stars for the 1st round pick (savings of 3.5 stars). Cleveland take Suggs base Salary and take off 3 stars from draft pick cap (adding 3.5 stars)

Make sure after you decide on every cut and every trade is confirmed, edit you state of the franchise post (explained later).



How does Free Agency work?
Free Agency will begin on ????. There will be one major Free Agency thread, and on the first day we will auction the QB position and list all the available players.

You will have 24 hours to place your bid. Once those 24 hours are up, no more bids can be placed. The Free Agency managers will sort through the winning bids to players at the end and give them to their new owners. Once that position is done, we will move onto the next day and start at RB and so on.

Going through each position at a time will make it much easier to track who is available and who is gone.

We will then have a free for all of all the guys left for a day or two, then again after the draft to fill out your roster.

Bidding on Free Agents:
If you win the bid you add that FA to your roster as of the 2012 season, don’t worry about the future.

Every GM has an idea on who they want and divvy up their budget according to this.


§ Team Name

§ Free Agent

§ Bid (# of stars)


***You can NOT bid on players if you do not have the free cap space available***

-You MUST create cap space first (by trading and/or cutting)


That’s for the first bid. Then if another team comes in and wants to bid, make sure and read through the thread, quote the highest bid so far (if its a player already bid on) and make sure and post a bid higher. If the first team wants to counter bid, again quote the post (continue to use format above, Team name, Free agent, and stars bid).

We don’t want people not looking for the highest bid and then bidding 6 mil for say Jake Long, when someone has already bid 8.

So rules

Place ALL bids in the following format:


Team Name
Free Agent
Bid (# of Stars)


Rules:

Absolutely NO discussions in this thread until the bidding period has ended

No Discussion in the Cut Thread
Search for the leading bidder, quote their bid, and outbid them
Teams can bid any amount on a player, but only in increments of 0.5 Stars
Always quote the previous highest bid until the last 5 minutes
Editing of posts is NOT permitted, and said posts will be ignored
You can start the bidding at any price, the lowest value being 0.5 Stars
Bid based on what you wish to pay for the 2014 base salary only (No signing bonuses)
If a signed player is cut, the team eats half of his salary (Unless the salary was 0.5 Stars, there is no cap hit).


During the Final Five:

At the final 5 minute mark, Berad will post, "FINAL FIVE MINUTES," so that we have a clear divide. If Berad cannot be online for whatever reason, please PM someone another active member. If Mt. Crushmore is online, PM him first. When the time is up, the person in charge of ending the bidding, whether that be berad or his appointed replacement will posts, "Bidding Is OVER." This member and this member ONLY is responsible for doing so. Therefore only this member's time is official.

Any member who was the bid leader before the FINAL FIVE MINUTES post and is outbid in that time frame will have a chance to bid again on the said player. In order to do so, they proclaim so from 7:00 EST until 7:05 ESTinTHIS thread, by posting something along the lines of:


Team Name
Free Agent
I wish to bid again


At 7:05 EST, the member in charge of the time keeping will post, "Final Five Is OVER."

He will then PM the GMs involved. They will reply with the absolute highest bid that they are willing to pay for said player. Both GMs have only ONE chance, and the highest bid wins. In the event of a tie, they will receive a PM informing them of the event, and allowing them of another bid until the tie has ended

This does NOT apply when the FIRST and ONLY bid was made in the final five minutes.


Overview:

1. Berad or the presiding commissioner posts, "FINAL FIVE MINUTES."
2. At 7:00 EST, said member posts, "Bidding Is OVER."
3. From 7:00 EST to 7:05 EST, any GM who was winning prior to 5 minutes left and was outbid in that time frame can request for another chance to bid for that player.
4. At 7:05 EST, the presiding member posts, "Final Five Is OVER."
5. This member then PMs both GMs, who will reply with the highest bid they are prepared to go. Unless in the event of a tie, only ONE bid is permitted. Winner receives the contractual rights to the player.


State of the Franchise Post
There is a separate thread for your state of the franchise, laid out like this:

Team

Starting cap (Ex. Ravens Starting Cap)
- How to find starting cap?
1) Go to your team page and click "2014 cap hits"
2) It is your "top 51 contracts" + your "Dead money" - your "Rollover" = starting Cap
- For this we assume everyone team is taking all their rollover money
3) so ravens starting cap is: 106.5 Million (so 106.5 stars) <----Website does eveything up to this point
4) Add your 8 stars, whatever you have, for the draft (so 106.5 + 5.5 = 114.5 stars) <----You must do this
5) Figure out how much you have left using our cap (so 127 stars - 114.5 stars = 12.5 stars)
6) Spend remaining 12.5 stars how you would like or keep for a rainy day


Draft Pick
Post every pick you have here
Then do a total of the stars you need to leave for the draft. Score out traded picks, don’t delete them. Add in traded for picks. Include the round and the overall no. of the pick.

Franchise Tag
Player position amount

RFA
Player position Tender Amount

EFA
Player position amount

Cuts
Player Position Amount saved. Dead Money is a factor

Trades(Dead Money is also a factor)
1. (Your team) trades (player name and salary/ or pick) to (team name) for (player name and salary/ or pick)
2. Same format
3. And so on

Total Saved and Spent

Cuts: X saved
Trades X Saved/Spent
Franchise: X Spent
RFA: X Spent
EFA: X Spent

Total Spent/Saved

New Total Salary X
Salary Remaining X
Less Draft Allowance X (from above)

Make sure and Update this after every transaction. Remember you must have 53 man rosters.


Threads
We will have a general discussion thread (this one), trade, cuts and resigning discussion goes in here also.
We will have a thread for all official trades, cuts and resigning’s.
We will have the State of the Franchise thread, to be updated after every transaction.
We will have a Big Board thread for the draft order (Gabe).
We will have a Vote thread for all issues that arise
We will have a Depth chart thread to be kept up dated regularly, this is a requirement, not a option.
We will have a Rules thread to clarify, discuss and change rules
Then when FA begins we will have threads for that but they won’t be pinned.

In the state of the franchise thread, big board thread, cut thread, depth chart thread there is too be NO discussion.


Important Dates:



****What needs to be added/discussed***
1) Important Dates – when do we want to start FA and Draft…is the RFA, ERFA, Franchise Tag day reasonable for everyone
2) Compensation picks – Should be out in March, do we add them if no compensation picks have been passed?
3) Others…..?

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We welcome all members of the game.

If you do not sign up before the deadline, you will be placed on a waiting list.....


Please, if you have any questions hmu with a PM.

Until Monday
~SAM

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I have a few suggestions for improvements to the game.

 

1) I think one thing about our FA process that is unrealistic is that teams lack the ability to work out extensions with their own FAs. With a few exceptions, most times a player will sign with his original team unless somebody can pay them more. Therefore, I propose giving each team the ability to match a winning FA bid to retain their own guys 3 times throughout the FA bidding process. I think this would add quite a bit of realism to the mock offseason.

 

2) I also think we should have the draft before the FA process. My reasoning is that the draft is most people's preferred method of team building and FA is used to fill any open gaps, not vice versa. This would keep teams from going as wild in FA because they don't know who is gonna be there when they pick.

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2) I also think we should have the draft before the FA process. My reasoning is that the draft is most people's preferred method of team building and FA is used to fill any open gaps, not vice versa. This would keep teams from going as wild in FA because they don't know who is gonna be there when they pick.

 

FA happens before the draft in real life

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FA happens before the draft in real life

 

True and I do think that if we want to be 100% realistic we would keep it the same. I just think the process would be more enjoyable for everyone if we did it this way.

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I'd also like to add to my first proposal: To get your ability to match 3 FA bids, you must first use your franchise tag on another player.

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I have a few suggestions for improvements to the game.

 

1) I think one thing about our FA process that is unrealistic is that teams lack the ability to work out extensions with their own FAs. With a few exceptions, most times a player will sign with his original team unless somebody can pay them more. Therefore, I propose giving each team the ability to match a winning FA bid to retain their own guys 3 times throughout the FA bidding process. I think this would add quite a bit of realism to the mock offseason.

 

2) I also think we should have the draft before the FA process. My reasoning is that the draft is most people's preferred method of team building and FA is used to fill any open gaps, not vice versa. This would keep teams from going as wild in FA because they don't know who is gonna be there when they pick.

 

You make some good points but while number two was addressed, I will address number one. Personally, I'm ok with it. Plus it really depends on the team because they may not have free agents that they want to keep. The team I'm looking at picking doesn't have many free agents and guys I can let go find younger replacements in the draft.

 

Also, I have always thought the only unrealistic thing about our game is our inability to restructure contracts. Teams do it in real life, but yet we can't? I know people would go crazy with it so we would have to limit it to one player restructuring per team. Just a thought, throwing it out there.

 

Another thing with the real draft in May, it may be possible that we could actually finish before the real draft.

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You make some good points but while number two was addressed, I will address number one. Personally, I'm ok with it. Plus it really depends on the team because they may not have free agents that they want to keep. The team I'm looking at picking doesn't have many free agents and guys I can let go find younger replacements in the draft.

 

Also, I have always thought the only unrealistic thing about our game is our inability to restructure contracts. Teams do it in real life, but yet we can't? I know people would go crazy with it so we would have to limit it to one player restructuring per team. Just a thought, throwing it out there.

 

Another thing with the real draft in May, it may be possible that we could actually finish before the real draft.

 

I'm all for restructuring if we can find a way to do it that is realistic. For example, even if we can restructure 1 contract, what is to stop the Ravens  owner, for example, from restructuring Flacco's contract down to 1 star even if it would never happen in real life? What kind of system do you propose?

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In addition to the game rules:

Please note that all regular forum rules apply. That means no profanity (or crudeness, etc.). Post politely and treat everyone with respect, no matter how angry you are. Limit posting of video and large pictures so that everyone has a quick page load. Keep discussions on-topic and within the designated thread(s) for the game. Do not let game-related communications "spill over" into other threads.

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Not to pile on but if something needs fixed the report post to the moderator is not the way to go it, please PM a moderator.

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The CoCo and I will meet. I want them tomorrow but they get the final say... 

 

Cool. Do I still have a spot on the CoCo or is it full?

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The CoCo and I will meet. I want them tomorrow but they get the final say...

Any idea on what time they would be?
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They want to keep it odd.... Sorry my good man.....

 

It's cool. Odd is better and 9 people would be too many.

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Before we 'start' and everyone has teams can we have a set date for trades and when they can start. Last year they went crazy once it started but if we are going by "real-life" rules trades cannot happen till FA opens...Which I think will simplify things too. Just a question/thought

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It's cool. Odd is better and 9 people would be too many.

 

If it's good enough for JRR Tolkein it's good enough for the boards!  One does not simply walk into Mordor!

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The CoCo and I will meet. I want them tomorrow but they get the final say... 

 

We should stick to our 7PM start time for everything like we had last year. Gives people time to think about who they want.

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We should stick to our 7PM start time for everything like we had last year. Gives people time to think about who they want.

 

Is that 7 pm ET?

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Do we pick teams tonight too or just sign up for the Mock Offseason?

i think signing up is first and after we get 32 (and maybe reserves) ready to go, then there should be a decision on the time to starts it - suitable for multiple sides of the pond(s)

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Sign up today. Team picking later this week.

 

Agreed. Also I think it should be clear that picking teams doesn't mean the game officially starts. I think once we pick teams, we all need to make a "State of The Franchise" Post prior to the game beginning. Once everyone does it, then we can begin. If you don't make one(had issues with this last year) then you forfeit your team and it will be given to another member.

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Sign up today. Team picking later this week.

 

Might I suggest giving preference in sign-ups to those who have participated for the last few years? We had a number of new guys who did not really participate last year and one way to avoid that would be to give preference to those who played and were active previously. Not sure how it would work, just a thought.

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Might I suggest giving preference in sign-ups to those who have participated for the last few years? We had a number of new guys who did not really participate last year and one way to avoid that would be to give preference to those who played and were active previously. Not sure how it would work, just a thought.

 

That's the other reason I think not starting until everyone has made a State of a Franchise Post. If their serious about it, they will make that post.

 

Also from this thread alone, we'll have about 10 or so spots filled.

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That's the other reason I think not starting until everyone has made a State of a Franchise Post. If their serious about it, they will make that post.

 

Also from this thread alone, we'll have about 10 or so spots filled.

 

I think that is a good idea. That was a pretty good indicator last year of who would be active.

 

When are we picking teams? Are we still doing a top 3 list?

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I think that is a good idea. That was a pretty good indicator last year of who would be active.

 

When are we picking teams? Are we still doing a top 3 list?

We are picking teams/starting out later on in the week....

 

 

 

We will make the thread at 4:30 pm(my time. Add Three Hours if on east coast) 

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