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#1 Brandon22

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:18 AM

so apparently the front office is talking about cutting him why not call around the league to see if we can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

I don't think the going rate for an older pass rusher would be a second round pick. I floated that around before. Maybe getting a third would be good depending on the team
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:29 AM

I don't think the going rate for an older pass rusher would be a second round pick. I floated that around before. Maybe getting a third would be good depending on the team

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:09 PM

They'll extend him for 3 yrs and he will be a great pass rusher again.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

so apparently the front office is talking about cutting him why not call around the league to see if we can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him

 

I know he's a big cap hit, but... source for this? 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:15 PM

I'd trade Ngata before I would trade or cut Suggs. We could get more for him and would free up more cap space.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:25 PM

I'd trade Ngata before I would trade or cut Suggs. We could get more for him and would free up more cap space.


Cutting or trading Ngata only frees up $1M in cap space.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:52 PM

Cutting or trading Ngata only frees up $1M in cap space.

Trading him, if the team picks up the duration of his contract as well, frees us from virtually his entire cap hit does it not?


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:54 PM

Getting a +10-15 sack guy isn't easy. We basically had no one next to suggs for over +5 years until one year of kruger.

We need to find a cap friendly deal or trade him
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

I'd definitely rather trade Suggs instead of outright cutting him. He does have value. Of course, I'd rather get him to a cap friendly deal, but I doubt he takes a pay cut. 

 

Replacing him is the challenge. It's not easy to replicate an 80 tackle, 10 sack season. 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:24 PM

Trading him, if the team picks up the duration of his contract as well, frees us from virtually his entire cap hit does it not?

No, you're still responsible for the guaranteed money and signing bonus.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

It's concerning though how dramatically his play dropped off in the second half last year, given his age.

Did he get hurt again, did teams adjust or has he hit the wall?


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:41 PM

Cut Suggs? What are you smoking? They'll re-do his deal if that's what needs to be done. You don't cut DPOY type players, especially guys that are leaders and still in their prime. That'd be idiotic.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:52 PM

we will get Suggs at a cap friendly number and he will retire as a RAVEN, 


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:03 PM

A cut could happen, but I think an extension to lower his cap number is more likely. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a trade either if the contract talks don't get anywhere.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:04 PM

A cut could happen, but I think an extension to lower his cap number is more likely. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a trade either if the contract talks don't get anywhere.


Depending on how high the draft pick is, that might be the best option.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:06 PM

Depending on how high the draft pick is, that might be the best option.


I think Rex Ryan would be very interested in him.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:12 PM

can probably get two 1st rounders from Oakland for him.
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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:14 PM

 

Cutting or trading Ngata only frees up $1M in cap space.

It frees up $8 million post June 1st. I've been saying this is an option cause Jimmy Smith and Torrey Smith would be coming up in the next year and that $8 million could be rolled over to have those two signed. If the Ravens exercise Jimmy's fifth year clause, that's $8 million right there.


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#20 BmoreBird22

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:15 PM

can probably get two 1st rounders from Oakland for him.

Aren't they super happy with Sio Moore or what ever his name is? I don't think they'd give up a first round pick at all for Suggs, although you might be acting sarcastic.


Edited by BmoreBird22, 31 January 2014 - 02:15 PM.

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