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Please get Kyle Shanahan - Edit: hired by the Cleveland Browns

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With no more oc jobs, we need to get him back.

We should make QB or WR coach, just make it work.

If Kubiak leaves at the end of next year he could take over and be OC.

This would be great for us.  Cmon Ozzie, Harbs, Biscotti reach out to this guy!!

He lives right down I-95.

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With no more oc jobs, we need to get him back.

We should make QB or WR coach, just make it work.

If Kubiak leaves at the end of next year he could take over and be OC.

This would be great for us.  Cmon Ozzie, Harbs, Biscotti reach out to this guy!!

He lives right down I-95.

 

Its kinda pointless now. We already have a QB coach and there are better WR coaches we can reach out to. If Kubiak leaves, we could promote Dennison to OC anyway.

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With no more oc jobs, we need to get him back.

We should make QB or WR coach, just make it work.

If Kubiak leaves at the end of next year he could take over and be OC.

This would be great for us.  Cmon Ozzie, Harbs, Biscotti reach out to this guy!!

He lives right down I-95.

 

Unfortunately, he wants nothing less than an OC job.....

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The only reason I might agree is if Kubiak is snatched up next year, we would already have a replacement OC with basically the same system in place.

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The only reason I might agree is if Kubiak is snatched up next year, we would already have a replacement OC with basically the same system in place.

 

Ding ding ding!

 

Revisit his situation in a few days, and if he settles for WR coach, hire him. 

 

Then when Kubiak leaves (it's inevitable), we have Shanahan. 

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Bravens292, on 30 Jan 2014 - 11:26 PM, said:

... If Kubiak leaves, we could promote Dennison to OC anyway.

If Kubiak leaves he will take Dennison with him. They have played together and worked together since forever. No way Dennison stays if Kubiak leaves.

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Ding ding ding!

Revisit his situation in a few days, and if he settles for WR coach, hire him.

Then when Kubiak leaves (it's inevitable), we have Shanahan.

That's my dream scenario. Sure we could keep Dennison, but he didn't call plays as the OC in Houston. Shanahan has become known as a play caller and could step right in if/when Kubes moves on to a HC gig.

The only question marks are how Shanny would handle an effective demotion, and how well he would mesh under Kubiak and the rest of the staff.

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Ding ding ding!

 

Revisit his situation in a few days, and if he settles for WR coach, hire him. 

 

Then when Kubiak leaves (it's inevitable), we have Shanahan. 

 

Thats a good idea but is he really a good Wr coach? He probably would be better as  offensive consultant or  a pass game coordinator( i doubt that happens) .

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Thats a good idea but is he really a good Wr coach? He probably would be better as  offensive consultant or  a pass game coordinator( i doubt that happens) .

 

Consultant would be okay, but WR coach would fill a vacancy too. And, it would be good to have someone who's already worked for Kubiak as WR coach

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Thats a good idea but is he really a good Wr coach? He probably would be better as offensive consultant or a pass game coordinator( i doubt that happens) .

I think he'd be fine. I also think as fans, we tend to overestimate the effect of position coaches, we tend to give them too much blame (I'd say too much credit too, but I've never seen a fan praise a position coach).

Of course, I'd want the top coaches we could get, but we stashed Mike Nolan as WR coach until he could take over as DC and the world didn't end. I think if Shanny wants to come aboard, we fit him in wherever...even RB coach.

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TXRavensFan, on 31 Jan 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:TXRavensFan, on 31 Jan 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

...The only question marks are how Shanny would handle an effective demotion, and how well he would mesh under Kubiak and the rest of the staff.

Coaches take promotions and demotions all the time and Kyle worked under Kubiak in Texas for 3 yrs before joining his father in Washington.

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Coaches take promotions and demotions all the time and Kyle worked under Kubiak in Texas for 3 yrs before joining his father in Washington.

While that is true, the dynamic in this case is pretty unusual:

-Shanahan worked for Kubiak 4 years ago in a higher position

-Shanahan is a finalist for this OC position only to have Kubiak swoop in a the last second to take the job

-To take a job with the Ravens, Shanahan would have to take a demotion and effectively be in the same spot he started in 8 years ago.

Don't get me wrong, is love for it to happen, and with no other OC positions, it might, just don't know how happy he'd be about it. Also, don't know if the fact that Kubes has known Shanahan since he's been in diapers would help or hurt lol.

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Consultant would be okay, but WR coach would fill a vacancy too. And, it would be good to have someone who's already worked for Kubiak as WR coach

 

They could change Dennison's title to that if Kyle comes on board so he can be the QB coach.  It's not like they're locked into things, and Dennison will be floating anyway.

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Shanahan is more younger and energetic it would be a huge safety net if kubiak's health gets worse or he leaves.  QB coach and let dennison do something else. 

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Ding ding ding!

 

Revisit his situation in a few days, and if he settles for WR coach, hire him. 

 

Then when Kubiak leaves (it's inevitable), we have Shanahan. 

Its really no brainer. They need to think of the future.  Shanahan should jump on this its like wait a year and its yours

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They could change Dennison's title to that if Kyle comes on board so he can be the QB coach.  It's not like they're locked into things, and Dennison will be floating anyway.

This makes sense, Dennison was presented as the offensive assistant, and QB coach only in title. 

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They could change Dennison's title to that if Kyle comes on board so he can be the QB coach.  It's not like they're locked into things, and Dennison will be floating anyway.

I agree with this, Kyle can be hired as QB coach and Dennison's title to change to senior offensive assistant also looking over running backs

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"Unfortunately Kyle, working for your father has knocked your career back 4 years. Now accept the WR coach position and like it."

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titles dont seem to mean much anyways.

 

if he wants to here there is a place on the ravens.

 

call him the pass game coordinator but secretly be the QB coach while dennision is called the QB coach but installs the offense and serves as glue and kubiak oversees everything on offense as the offence HC.

 

all in secret of course.

 

should make some sense.

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With no more oc jobs, we need to get him back.

We should make QB or WR coach, just make it work.

If Kubiak leaves at the end of next year he could take over and be OC.

This would be great for us.  Cmon Ozzie, Harbs, Biscotti reach out to this guy!!

He lives right down I-95.

 

I believe Kubiak may not want another head coaching job. He probably doesn't need it financially and last year it had a negative impact on his health.

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I'm pretty happy he's not here. If the Ravens or Kubiak wanted him, he would already be here.

I don't know. Maybe he felt he could get work somewhere else for OC and declined an offer from us. Now that he sees no team appears interested he could come to his senses and accept a job here. But no team wanting him is kind of strange, maybe he wouldn't be an excellent find.
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I don't know. Maybe he felt he could get work somewhere else for OC and declined an offer from us. Now that he sees no team appears interested he could come to his senses and accept a job here. But no team wanting him is kind of strange, maybe he wouldn't be an excellent find.

yeah, but this also emerged as process of signing Kubiak unveiled lol

 

"Ozzie Newsome was never involved in the coaching discussions (regarding Kubiak)*. Steve Bisciotti wanted to hire Kyle Shanahan. Seeking feedback on Shanahan, John Harbaugh called Rick Dennison with whom he had a previous relationship. During that conversation Dennison shared that Gary Kubiak wanted the Ravens OC job and only that job."

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They could change Dennison's title to that if Kyle comes on board so he can be the QB coach.  It's not like they're locked into things, and Dennison will be floating anyway.

Really like this idea, seems Dennison was hired more because he will be another mouth to quickly spread Kubiak's system and help the players understand it faster. Besides, if Kubiak was the playcaller anyway in Houston, it seems Dennison would be much better suited to an offensive assistant, letting him float and spread the message, and let Shannahan deal directly with Flacco. Besides, again, Kubiak is going to have a ton of input with Flacco anyway so not sure any of these titles other than Kubiak and OC matter anyway...just get the best coaches you can 

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I really like the kubiak entourage here, but I do think after that mini stroke,  teams did back off and I feel he will use this year wisely he will show his health and display our new offense.He will be gone next year,maybe the following year along with his crew.We have an easy schedule So what do we need A BACK UP PLAN .we really need kyle shan here.  And for fun what team will KUBIAK  go to,,,he was born in HOUSTON TEXAS so I see him as the dallas cowboys HC  ,,,,

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I'm pretty happy he's not here. If the Ravens or Kubiak wanted him, he would already be here.

That's not true. When the Ravens were working on getting Kubiak, Shanahan was a reported piece of the coaching "dream team". He just didn't want a lower role. With the Browns passing on him (which I don't understand since they want Manziel), there aren't any other openings other than us possibly in a year or two.

I think the Ravens want him and that's why there's news on him in the LFW article and all

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That's not true. When the Ravens were working on getting Kubiak, Shanahan was a reported piece of the coaching "dream team". He just didn't want a lower role. With the Browns passing on him (which I don't understand since they want Manziel), there aren't any other openings other than us possibly in a year or two.

I think the Ravens want him and that's why there's news on him in the LFW article and all

 

There was also news about Norv Turner in the LFW the other day - but we reportedly never reached out to him - it was because he was leaving the Browns (AFCN). Actually, there were several articles about him and he got a few headlining pictures. Similarly, Shanahan got a 21 word mention (tweet) because the Browns are apparently turning him down and he'd been linked to us before.

 

He may still come here, I was under the impression that he was going to but was glad to hear he would not be.

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There was also news about Norv Turner in the LFW the other day - but we reportedly never reached out to him - it was because he was leaving the Browns (AFCN). Actually, there were several articles about him and he got a few headlining pictures. Similarly, Shanahan got a 21 word mention (tweet) because the Browns are apparently turning him down and he'd been linked to us before.

 

He may still come here, I was under the impression that he was going to but was glad to hear he would not be.

Norv Turner kept popping up because people thought we should contact him. Kyle Shanhan is popping up because we did contact him and I think people still feel this is a good fit for him. 

Either way, I would prefer him. I don't see why you don't like him. Does it have to do with his tenure in Washington?

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I really like the kubiak entourage here, but I do think after that mini stroke, teams did back off and I feel he will use this year wisely he will show his health and display our new offense.He will be gone next year,maybe the following year along with his crew.We have an easy schedule So what do we need A BACK UP PLAN .we really need kyle shan here. And for fun what team will KUBIAK go to,,,he was born in HOUSTON TEXAS so I see him as the dallas cowboys HC ,,,,

I think Dennison is more than capable if something were to happen with Kubiak, either health wise or leaving for another job.

Shanahan was passed on for reasons.

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