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#1 DefensiveMind

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:08 PM

On this Saturday, I was rather bored and got to thinking if I was able to put together a team that involved every player in NFL history, who would I take with my first pick. Then it became clear that without a doubt I would take Ray Lewis with my top pick, which would set my defense and organization straight almost two decades.  Then I began thinking of other Ravens I would put on my team and I was actually impressed with how many we had that can already be in the conversation of best ever (at their position.) So if I had a choice at ever player in NFL history, this is how I'd want my team to end up looking.

 

QB: Peyton Manning

RB: Barry Sanders/ AP (this is a toss up)

FB: Jim Brown

WR1: Jerry Rice

WR2: Randy Moss

TE: Shannon Sharpe

LT: OGDEN

LG: Randall McDaniel

C: Bruce Matthews

RG: Will Shields

RT: Anthony Munoz 

 

LE: Reggie White

NT: Warren Sapp

RE: John Randle

LOLB: LT

MIKE: RAY LEWIS

TED: Mike Singletary

ROLB: DT

CB1: Deion Sanders

CB2: Champ Bailey

FS: ED REED

SS: Sean Taylor

 

So out of 22 starters, 3 Ravens can be considered the best ever at their positions.  To think that that is the case after only being a franchise since 96' is amazing.  I also think if Suggs and Ngata put together a couple more solid seasons, by the time they retire, they will be seen as top 10 at their positions.  Just makes you think how great it is to be a fan, among all the doom and gloom that has been going on in these forums.  

 

Who is on your starting team? And how many are Ravens?


Edited by DefensiveMind, 19 January 2014 - 01:02 PM.

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:11 PM

No Ronnie Lott?  I loved Sean Taylor and he could have been one of the all time greats, but Ronnie Lott encapsulates what a SS is.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:15 PM

And considering the Franchise is only about 17 years old????  I think that's pretty good... 


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:34 PM

I like the list but the only oldtimer is Jim Brown.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:59 PM

Here's who I have different from your list.

 

QB - tossup between Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana

WR2 - Calvin Johnson

Slot WR - Don Hutson

TE - Tony Gonzales

LG - Larry Allen

 

RDE - Bruce Smith

CB2 - Darrell Green

SS - Ronnie Lott

 

KR/PR - Gale Sayers

 

Who is DT for ROLB? Derrick Thomas? If so, then I agree.

For RB, I'd go Barry Sanders over Adrian Peterson though you can't really go wrong with either one.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 02:01 PM

On this Saturday, I was rather bored and got to thinking if I was able to put together a team that involved every player in NFL history, who would I take with my first pick. Then it became clear that without a doubt I would take Ray Lewis with my top pick, which would set my defense and organization straight almost two decades.  Then I began thinking of other Ravens I would put on my team and I was actually impressed with how many we had that can already be in the conversation of best ever (at their position.) So if I had a choice at ever player in NFL history, this is how I'd want my team to end up looking.

 

QB: Peyton Manning

RB: Barry Sanders/ AP (this is a toss up)

FB: Jim Brown

WR1: Jerry Rice

WR2: Randy Moss

TE: Ozzie 

LT: OGDEN

LG: Randall McDaniel

C: Bruce Matthews

RG: Will Shields

RT: Anthony Munoz 

 

LE: Reggie White

NT: Warren Sapp

RE: John Randle

LOLB: LT

MIKE: RAY LEWIS

TED: Mike Singletary

ROLB: DT

CB1: Deion Sanders

CB2: Champ Bailey

FS: ED REED

SS: Sean Taylor

 

So out of 22 starters, 3 Ravens can be considered the best ever at their positions.  To think that that is the case after only being a franchise since 96' is amazing.  I also think if Suggs and Ngata put together a couple more solid seasons, by the time they retire, they will be seen as top 10 at their positions.  Just makes you think how great it is to be a fan, among all the doom and gloom that has been going on in these forums.  

 

Who is on your starting team? And how many are Ravens?

everybody loved Sean Taylor, but he isn't the best SS of all time, he could/would have been had he not been murdered, So I think the best SS of all time should go to Lott

Also I don't know about Champ being the second best CB ever, CB is a really hard one to choose when you've got Champ, Dick Lane, Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson, and Willie Brown.......I would personally take Brown over Champ, but this position is really debatable, I guess you can't really be bashed too hard for that selection because Champ is without a doubt one of the best ever

If Ngata gets back to being the dominant force he was a couple of years ago before he started having injury issues, he could definitely crack into the greatest ever conversation, Suggs has a chance as well, but OLB is pretty crowded at the top

Its pretty impressive that our first two picks ever are without a doubt the two best at their position ever


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 02:09 PM

Here's who I have different from your list.

 

QB - tossup between Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana

WR2 - Calvin Johnson

Slot WR - Don Hutson

TE - Tony Gonzales

LG - Larry Allen

 

RDE - Bruce Smith

CB2 - Darrell Green

SS - Ronnie Lott

 

Who is DT for ROLB? Derrick Thomas? If so, then I agree.

For RB, I'd go Barry Sanders over Adrian Peterson.

I agree with Barry over AP, he hasn't cracked GOAT status yet, but he certainly has a chance, as it is right now there are a few RB I would take before AP

I would also throw Shannon Sharpe into the TE conversation along with Gates

How can you snub Devin Hester as the PR/KR?


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

I would Go Unitas over anyone else including Manning, he played like a raven before anyone knew what that meant !


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 02:48 PM

I agree with Barry over AP, he hasn't cracked GOAT status yet, but he certainly has a chance, as it is right now there are a few RB I would take before AP

I would also throw Shannon Sharpe into the TE conversation along with Gates

How can you snub Devin Hester as the PR/KR?

 

Not only is Gonzales a better receiver than Sharpe and Gates, he's also a much better blocker.

Hester's also great, but if you've ever seen footage of Sayers having everyone on the other defense miss him, a few players more than once, then you'd understand why as great as Hester is, Sayers was even better (just didn't last as long, but I'm going by peak for KR/PR.)


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:17 PM

Tight End is definitely Tony Gonzalez. Sean Taylor had nothing on Lott.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:34 PM

Tight End is definitely Tony Gonzalez. Sean Taylor had nothing on Lott.


I'd take Ditka over Gonzalez.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:35 PM

Only two Ray and Ogden. Emlen Tunnel did what reed did thirty years ago.and he may not even be the best ever although it is probably close.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:38 PM

Lott also spent time at FS so there is that.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:45 PM

i would've loved to see the player Taylor could have become.  Rangy SS with with great ball skills.  Hit like the truck that carries a Mack truck.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 05:09 PM

Gonzalez over Ozzie. Calvin over Moss. Agree with pretty much everything else. I hate the steelers but I'd take Troy over Taylor, don't know much about Lott besides him being highly regarded as the best.
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 05:17 PM

Montana can win the big one more than once, so he gets my vote over Manning. I love Lott at SS, as I still love watching his hits even today. Barry Sanders is my #1 but Walter Payton has to be my one honorary mention on the G.O.A.T. list.

 

Because I still can't decide between a 4-3 and 3-4 defense when it comes to greatest defensive players of all time, I am just too all over the place to probably ever truly make a final decision.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 05:44 PM

I'd run a 3-4 but whatever.

Marino

Payton
Brown

Rice
Calvin Johnson(yes, him over Moss)
Tony Gonzales

Ogden
Hannah
Matthews
Allen
Munoz

RDE: Reggie White
DT: Joe Green
LDE: Deacon Jones(how the hell is he not on this list?)

LOLB: LT(duh)
MLB: Ray Lewis
MLB: Dick Butkus
ROLB: Derrick Thomas(RIP. Died too young)

CB: Deion Sanders
CB: Darrel Green

FS: Ed Reed
SS: Ronnie Lott
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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:18 PM

Here's who I have different from your list.

 

QB - tossup between Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana

WR2 - Calvin Johnson

Slot WR - Don Hutson

TE - Tony Gonzales

LG - Larry Allen

 

RDE - Bruce Smith

CB2 - Darrell Green

SS - Ronnie Lott

 

KR/PR - Gale Sayers

 

Who is DT for ROLB? Derrick Thomas? If so, then I agree.

For RB, I'd go Barry Sanders over Adrian Peterson though you can't really go wrong with either one.

Yeah, Derrick Thomas 


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:22 PM

Gonzalez over Ozzie. Calvin over Moss. Agree with pretty much everything else. I hate the steelers but I'd take Troy over Taylor, don't know much about Lott besides him being highly regarded as the best.

I personally think Troy is one of the most overrated players Ive ever seen


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:26 PM

These arent necessarily who I think are the Greatest of all-time, but who I would pick if I were to assemble a team.  I do think however that (Lewis, Ogden, and Reed) are the best at their positions, but the rest are debatable and personal preferences.  Not a lot of old timers because I just feel that many are overrated.  I just think if some of them were to play in today's generation of faster, stronger, bigger players, they wouldnt be as highly regarded as they were in their day.


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