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Suggs was the guest commentator on the NFL network yesterday.

 He looked very sharp and of course, was really funny, especially when asked about rivalries.

 

Ravens vs Steelers, he said, Yeah, me and Ben.

Also remarked about trading Boldin, he kept saying it was for a 6th round pick. I think even the players couldn't get over that one.

 

He has a great future on TV!

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So many people act like this was a sole act by the Ravens "to get rid of" Anquan Boldin. Suggs was indecisive on that issue on NFL Network.... and yet made it known he disapproved of it.   I will maintain that Boldin made a choice when he CHOSE to turn down the $4M offer the Ravens made him...  He CHOSE not to accept that... So the Ravens found him a team out there that would give him what he wanted, and in return they got the CAP space and a 6th round pick.  He wanted more money...  He lost his bargaining power when he stated that "he would prefer to retire rather than play for any other team in the NFL". 

 

When you start to realize how bad our defense was in 2012... Who we lost in players after the Super Bowl...  in Kruger, Ellerbe, Williams, Lewis, Reed, and even McClain with his spinal cord injury...  We Had No Choice but to find Defensive players...  And that is what the FO did.  Imagine had they not... What would our defense have looked like this year?

 

That relates back to the topic at hand....  When asked, Suggs should have backed management and mentioned all of these things, because he ACTUALLY IS a defensive player, and knows how all of that impacted him and the rest of the team...   

 

The fact that he kinda waffled, and threw the organization under the bus on that trade/move......  again???  Actually may not help him either... Boldin was a casualty... and there will be some more this year folks.  We cannot afford all of the guys we have... again...  Just my Opinion folks....

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So many people act like this was a sole act by the Ravens "to get rid of" Anquan Boldin. Suggs was indecisive on that issue on NFL Network.... and yet made it known he disapproved of it.   I will maintain that Boldin made a choice when he CHOSE to turn down the $4M offer the Ravens made him...  He CHOSE not to accept that... So the Ravens found him a team out there that would give him what he wanted, and in return they got the CAP space and a 6th round pick.  He wanted more money...  He lost his bargaining power when he stated that "he would prefer to retire rather than play for any other team in the NFL". 

 

When you start to realize how bad our defense was in 2012... Who we lost in players after the Super Bowl...  in Kruger, Ellerbe, Williams, Lewis, Reed, and even McClain with his spinal cord injury...  We Had No Choice but to find Defensive players...  And that is what the FO did.  Imagine had they not... What would our defense have looked like this year?

 

That relates back to the topic at hand....  When asked, Suggs should have backed management and mentioned all of these things, because he ACTUALLY IS a defensive player, and knows how all of that impacted him and the rest of the team...   

 

The fact that he kinda waffled, and threw the organization under the bus on that trade/move......  again???  Actually may not help him either... Boldin was a casualty... and there will be some more this year folks.  We cannot afford all of the guys we have... again...  Just my Opinion folks....

Couldn't you say management threw him under the bus when they said they're not afraid to let good players walk in relation to Suggs'?  

 

They asked him a question and he gave his opinion.

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Couldn't you say management threw him under the bus when they said they're not afraid to let good players walk in relation to Suggs'?  

 

They asked him a question and he gave his opinion.

I think that they made themselves pretty clear as to what they have to do, Redrum... They have 14 very popular UFA's... They're gonna have to make some pretty hard decisions about who stays and who goes... They will use the information that they have to make these decisions... and I think leadership and attitude and dedication to the team are as important at this point as ability.  That's the message I got from that...

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I reckon Chris Canty's another one who can get a nice TV job afterwards. He's always going on that NFL Total Access show and trying to have a good time with the host. I think he speaks pretty well and he knows how to keep his nose clean.

 

Without having seen the interview, I can't really comment on what Suggs said (what was the show? It might be replaying during the day) but I do think it sounds like he missed the point of the Boldin trade a bit. Everyone looked at the 6th round pick and thought that's what we were after when I think he was going to be a cap casualty anyway.

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It wasn't so much that Q was traded for a 6th, but to the team he was traded to. It's like hey we beat you and I feel bad so here's a gift. That's what bothers me the most. So any think we could of got more from other team?
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Totally agree on Canty. He gives a better than interview than anyone on the current roster.

He seems a confident, articulate guy with a great knowledge of the game. I expect he'll take up a much bigger leadership role next season, especially if Mr Suggs ends up leaving.
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It wasn't so much that Q was traded for a 6th, but to the team he was traded to. It's like hey we beat you and I feel bad so here's a gift. That's what bothers me the most. So any think we could of got more from other team?

I think it was about the CAP space... and we don't know, but they may have asked him where he wanted to go....  There was that rumor.

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Totally agree on Canty. He gives a better than interview than anyone on the current roster.

He seems a confident, articulate guy with a great knowledge of the game. I expect he'll take up a much bigger leadership role next season, especially if Mr Suggs ends up leaving.

I was going to say that too... Inqui got that one right.

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It wasn't so much that Q was traded for a 6th, but to the team he was traded to. It's like hey we beat you and I feel bad so here's a gift. That's what bothers me the most. So any think we could of got more from other team?


Before we traded him, there was a lot of talk about him getting released.

If we didn't trade him, I still don't think he'd have been on our roster. I'm not exactly sure what the cap situation was, but if we released him I'm sure we'd have had to eat some dead money.

At the time, I thought it was the correct decision. Remember that we released him BEFORE Pitta got hurt. Pitta was due to take over as our primary third down/red zone target, and I was really excited to hopefully see him break out as one of the best receiving tight ends in the league.

I don't think losing Boldin was our biggest issue. Even if he was here, he wouldn't have had his San Francisco production because they have one of the top O lines in the game, and ours was... not.
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inqui...  It was Total Access...  last night.  you can probably find it on NFL.COM

Sweet, cheers. I've got Game Pass so worst case I could probably dig up the original broadcast. I'm trying to dodge NFL-related media until at least after Monday because I'm pretty sure I can write all the big headlines myself at this point. We'll see how it goes.

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Before we traded him, there was a lot of talk about him getting released.

If we didn't trade him, I still don't think he'd have been on our roster. I'm not exactly sure what the cap situation was, but if we released him I'm sure we'd have had to eat some dead money.

At the time, I thought it was the correct decision. Remember that we released him BEFORE Pitta got hurt. Pitta was due to take over as our primary third down/red zone target, and I was really excited to hopefully see him break out as one of the best receiving tight ends in the league.

I don't think losing Boldin was our biggest issue. Even if he was here, he wouldn't have had his San Francisco production because they have one of the top O lines in the game, and ours was... not.

Exactly. They have a top o-line, a better running game and they actually know how to use him. I just don't think he was worth what we were paying him (as much as I hate to say that).

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Before we traded him, there was a lot of talk about him getting released.

If we didn't trade him, I still don't think he'd have been on our roster. I'm not exactly sure what the cap situation was, but if we released him I'm sure we'd have had to eat some dead money.

At the time, I thought it was the correct decision. Remember that we released him BEFORE Pitta got hurt. Pitta was due to take over as our primary third down/red zone target, and I was really excited to hopefully see him break out as one of the best receiving tight ends in the league.

I don't think losing Boldin was our biggest issue. Even if he was here, he wouldn't have had his San Francisco production because they have one of the top O lines in the game, and ours was... not.

agreed.

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It wasn't so much that Q was traded for a 6th, but to the team he was traded to. It's like hey we beat you and I feel bad so here's a gift. That's what bothers me the most. So any think we could of got more from other team?

This. And more specifically, it felt like a way to keep the peace between the Harbaugh brothers. Winner gets trophy, brother who's the loser gets one of the good players.

It might be a stretch but it sure does seem ironic that Boldin went to the 49ers.
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Idk but I never heard them trying to shop him around. All I heard was that he was going to be a CAP problem. I understand we wasn't going to keep him. I think they would of got better offers.
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Sweet, cheers. I've got Game Pass so worst case I could probably dig up the original broadcast. I'm trying to dodge NFL-related media until at least after Monday because I'm pretty sure I can write all the big headlines myself at this point. We'll see how it goes.

Part of suggs commentary is posted under videos on this site its not the entire  broadcast but you get some of it . I agree about Canty he is very candid, believable and well spoken he will definitely make the leap seamlessly once his playing days are gone.

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Its gotta suck for suggs to talk about the patriot way with heath evans and willie

Or worse yet, if he co-hosted First Take. :mellow:

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So many people act like this was a sole act by the Ravens "to get rid of" Anquan Boldin. Suggs was indecisive on that issue on NFL Network.... and yet made it known he disapproved of it.   I will maintain that Boldin made a choice when he CHOSE to turn down the $4M offer the Ravens made him...  He CHOSE not to accept that... So the Ravens found him a team out there that would give him what he wanted, and in return they got the CAP space and a 6th round pick.  He wanted more money...  He lost his bargaining power when he stated that "he would prefer to retire rather than play for any other team in the NFL". 

 

When you start to realize how bad our defense was in 2012... Who we lost in players after the Super Bowl...  in Kruger, Ellerbe, Williams, Lewis, Reed, and even McClain with his spinal cord injury...  We Had No Choice but to find Defensive players...  And that is what the FO did.  Imagine had they not... What would our defense have looked like this year?

 

That relates back to the topic at hand....  When asked, Suggs should have backed management and mentioned all of these things, because he ACTUALLY IS a defensive player, and knows how all of that impacted him and the rest of the team...   

 

The fact that he kinda waffled, and threw the organization under the bus on that trade/move......  again???  Actually may not help him either... Boldin was a casualty... and there will be some more this year folks.  We cannot afford all of the guys we have... again...  Just my Opinion folks....

 

Now....why should Suggs do that when management made it clear that they'd have no problem letting him walk out the door? 

 

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Now....why should Suggs do that when management made it clear that they'd have no problem letting him walk out the door? 

 

#Mili

 

Yep. Loyalty is a two way street, and it is not free. It has to be earned. The way Ozzie was talking about Suggs doesn't breed a lot of loyalty. It sure wouldn't with me.

 

 

I understand Ozzie's attitude. He has the cap to deal with and has some really tough decisions to make. But that is a management problem.  It is why he gets paid the big bucks.

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I don't mind trading Q to San Fran. It's as nice of a gesture as you can get when it comes to trading someone.

It's like hey, we are going to trade you out of the conference because we respect you, and slwe are going to send you to a top 3 team. One could only hope to be traded to a team, and city as nice as San Fran... Just saying
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Yep. Loyalty is a two way street, and it is not free. It has to be earned. The way Ozzie was talking about Suggs doesn't breed a lot of loyalty. It sure wouldn't with me.

 

 

I understand Ozzie's attitude. He has the cap to deal with and has some really tough decisions to make. But that is a management problem.  It is why he gets paid the big bucks.

 

Me either!  This is a business!  And when it boils down to it.....no matter how people want to spin it.....the Ravens organization will ALWAYS look out for its' own best interests and do what they feel is best for the Ravens.  Therefore, I have no problem with any player looking out for their own best interests either!

 

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Suggs was doing his very best to not say anything truly critical of the Raven Front Office.  We don't have that limitation here, candidly, that front office has been inept for some time now.  In that regard, you are correct, it wasn't just about getting rid of Boldin.  It's been a litany of errors in the past year that have undermined this team for years to come. 

 

The errors are so manifest that pre Free Agency and Draft this fan is confident in stating that the Baltimore Ravens will have a Losing Record in 2014.  Having predicted prior to the first game, that the best the Raven's could hope for in 2013 was an 8-8 record, for the coming year the prediction is 6-10.

 

A.J. Green was not running behind our safeties last year.  Neither was Jordie Nelson. Our 2013 defense was stout in the Red Zone. It bent, but rarely broke. The more this fan reads that the 2013 Defense was more effective than the Championship Defense  the more cover it provides our negligent management.

 

It's known here that this fan has been among the advant-garde as it pertains to what ails the Ravens. What ails the Ravens more than any specific player weakness is the weakness in the Front Office. It has literally been incompetent this past year and poor decisions have been made the last few years as well. It's been both incompetent and unaccountable.

Sure we won a Championship, but that was with a team that was negligently disbanded and still we underachieved during that era.

Not going to get into the specifics of Oz missteps. They are well known. To a certain extent this opinion has had scant support, however there has been a significant change of late. Bisciotti defined Failure as missing the playoffs and stated that 2013 was a Failure. He stated he is going to defer to Oz and DeCosta this coming year, but if they Fail again, he will intervene. Oz is on Bisciotti's "Watch List". What form that intervention takes will likely depend upon whether Oz fails and how badly he fails.

Bisciotti has developed difference of opinion with Oz on personnel decisions. He is not happy but is not articulating what he's upset about. The mistakes are there for all to see. First and foremost Bisciotti is transparent but self interested. Don't expect a robber baron to tell you what's really on his revenue fixated mind. The belief here is that Bisciotti's primary vent is about the large contract paid to Flacco, but there's plenty to be steaming about.

If it were up to this poster Oz would not be involved in this next round of player decision making. Bisciotti is slowly realizing things are not right, but he won't pick it all up quick enough to avoid a longer mediocre to middling period of Raven's football. The die has been cast we will likely be playing another year or two on modern Oz Time.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

So many people act like this was a sole act by the Ravens "to get rid of" Anquan Boldin. Suggs was indecisive on that issue on NFL Network.... and yet made it known he disapproved of it.   I will maintain that Boldin made a choice when he CHOSE to turn down the $4M offer the Ravens made him...  He CHOSE not to accept that... So the Ravens found him a team out there that would give him what he wanted, and in return they got the CAP space and a 6th round pick.  He wanted more money...  He lost his bargaining power when he stated that "he would prefer to retire rather than play for any other team in the NFL". 

 

When you start to realize how bad our defense was in 2012... Who we lost in players after the Super Bowl...  in Kruger, Ellerbe, Williams, Lewis, Reed, and even McClain with his spinal cord injury...  We Had No Choice but to find Defensive players...  And that is what the FO did.  Imagine had they not... What would our defense have looked like this year?

 

That relates back to the topic at hand....  When asked, Suggs should have backed management and mentioned all of these things, because he ACTUALLY IS a defensive player, and knows how all of that impacted him and the rest of the team...   

 

The fact that he kinda waffled, and threw the organization under the bus on that trade/move......  again???  Actually may not help him either... Boldin was a casualty... and there will be some more this year folks.  We cannot afford all of the guys we have... again...  Just my Opinion folks....

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It wasn't so much that Q was traded for a 6th, but to the team he was traded to. It's like hey we beat you and I feel bad so here's a gift. That's what bothers me the most. So any think we could of got more from other team?

 

There's no way you honestly believe thats why we traded him there....right? The only other team that offered us anything was the Vikings, and they offered us a 7th rounder. I remember reading it in the thread on here. So it was either a 6th rounder, a 7th rounder, or cut him. We took the best we could get.

 

Teams KNEW we were going to cut him, so why offer up a bunch if they knew he could be had for a late rounder?

 

Back on topic: I can't wait till i see Suggs on TV daily/every other day/whatever. He's hilarious. I wish he would take the place of Stephen A. Smith on first take and argue with Skip everyday. That'd be hilarious. Both him and Canty definitely have a career there after their careers are over.

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It wasn't so much that Q was traded for a 6th, but to the team he was traded to. It's like hey we beat you and I feel bad so here's a gift. That's what bothers me the most. So any think we could of got more from other team?

I think it was a surprise to get what we got for him. Most people thought he would be cut dating back to 2011.

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Suggs was doing his very best to not say anything truly critical of the Raven Front Office. We don't have that limitation here, candidly, that front office has been inept for some time now. In that regard, you are correct, it wasn't just about getting rid of Boldin. It's been a litany of errors in the past year that have undermined this team for years to come.

The errors are so manifest that pre Free Agency and Draft this fan is confident in stating that the Baltimore Ravens will have a Losing Record in 2014. Having predicted prior to the first game, that the best the Raven's could hope for in 2013 was an 8-8 record, for the coming year the prediction is 6-10.

A.J. Green was not running behind our safeties last year. Neither was Jordie Nelson. Our 2013 defense was stout in the Red Zone. It bent, but rarely broke. The more this fan reads that the 2013 Defense was more effective than the Championship Defense the more cover it provides our negligent management.

It's known here that this fan has been among the advant-garde as it pertains to what ails the Ravens. What ails the Ravens more than any specific player weakness is the weakness in the Front Office. It has literally been incompetent this past year and poor decisions have been made the last few years as well. It's been both incompetent and unaccountable.

Sure we won a Championship, but that was with a team that was negligently disbanded and still we underachieved during that era.

Not going to get into the specifics of Oz missteps. They are well known. To a certain extent this opinion has had scant support, however there has been a significant change of late. Bisciotti defined Failure as missing the playoffs and stated that 2013 was a Failure. He stated he is going to defer to Oz and DeCosta this coming year, but if they Fail again, he will intervene. Oz is on Bisciotti's "Watch List". What form that intervention takes will likely depend upon whether Oz fails and how badly he fails.

Bisciotti has developed difference of opinion with Oz on personnel decisions. He is not happy but is not articulating what he's upset about. The mistakes are there for all to see. First and foremost Bisciotti is transparent but self interested. Don't expect a robber baron to tell you what's really on his revenue fixated mind. The belief here is that Bisciotti's primary vent is about the large contract paid to Flacco, but there's plenty to be steaming about.

If it were up to this poster Oz would not be involved in this next round of player decision making. Bisciotti is slowly realizing things are not right, but he won't pick it all up quick enough to avoid a longer mediocre to middling period of Raven's football. The die has been cast we will likely be playing another year or two on modern Oz Time.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.


Name me one category the championship defense was better than this year's defense. I haven't heard any. There could be one, but I know our schedule was harder and we allowed fewer points and fewer yards than last year.

Last year's safety (Reed) was beat by our very own Jacoby Jones for a TD this season. What's your point about Elam getting beat deep? You wanted to keep Reed?

Our team was disbanded? Who did you want to overpay for? Reed? Ellerbe? Kruger? Williams? I'm just confused as to what you are complaining about. If we don't trade Boldin we have no defense. Even after cutting Boldin we still couldn't afford the contracts our players were getting elsewhere. Please explain to me your plan for last year's off season. Just curious.
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So many people act like this was a sole act by the Ravens "to get rid of" Anquan Boldin. Suggs was indecisive on that issue on NFL Network.... and yet made it known he disapproved of it. I will maintain that Boldin made a choice when he CHOSE to turn down the $4M offer the Ravens made him... He CHOSE not to accept that... So the Ravens found him a team out there that would give him what he wanted, and in return they got the CAP space and a 6th round pick. He wanted more money... He lost his bargaining power when he stated that "he would prefer to retire rather than play for any other team in the NFL".

When you start to realize how bad our defense was in 2012... Who we lost in players after the Super Bowl... in Kruger, Ellerbe, Williams, Lewis, Reed, and even McClain with his spinal cord injury... We Had No Choice but to find Defensive players... And that is what the FO did. Imagine had they not... What would our defense have looked like this year?

That relates back to the topic at hand.... When asked, Suggs should have backed management and mentioned all of these things, because he ACTUALLY IS a defensive player, and knows how all of that impacted him and the rest of the team...

The fact that he kinda waffled, and threw the organization under the bus on that trade/move...... again??? Actually may not help him either... Boldin was a casualty... and there will be some more this year folks. We cannot afford all of the guys we have... again... Just my Opinion folks....



He didnt want more money......
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