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[Capitalize]

Bring back Jim Zorn as Quarterback Coach! He helped raised Joe Flacco's game to set a career high 25 TDs (should have been 30 for that season).

[JEEPercreepermd]

We have the pieces already. Just need a new C and to go back to old school power man run schemes.

We do have to give Flacco a top flight weapon though. Hell even Cleveland has one now in Gordon. We paid Flacco, no we need to actually give him some pieces to run with.

Agreed. As for Receivers, we really could use a posession type of receiver. We already have the big play guys in Smith, Brown and Jones.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

If I were Steve Bisciotti, I'd bring back Brian Billick for a couple reasons. He's forgotten more about offense than Harbaugh and Caldwell will ever learn. If Brian "The Brain" Billick would promise not to call the owner Young Man, the least Steve could do is to swallow his pride so we could play some neopolitan offense for a change with some end arounds, middle screens, half-back passes et cetera. if neophyte football fans could predict the Ravens' plays from their living rooms, it must have been simple for most NFL coordinators to outwit Caldwell and Castillo. Just imagine how much fun it must have been for Cam Cameron to try to guess their playcalls this year. After all, it is the same darn playbook.

[The Raven]

If I were Steve Bisciotti, I'd bring back Brian Billick for a couple reasons. He's forgotten more about offense than Harbaugh and Caldwell will ever learn. If Brian "The Brain" Billick would promise not to call the owner Young Man, the least Steve could do is to swallow his pride so we could play some neopolitan offense for a change with some end arounds, middle screens, half-back passes et cetera. if neophyte football fans could predict the Ravens' plays from their living rooms, it must have been simple for most NFL coordinators to outwit Caldwell and Castillo. Just imagine how much fun it must have been for Cam Cameron to try to guess their playcalls this year. After all, it is the same darn playbook.

 

End arounds and half-back passes are mickey mouse high school plays. I'm very skeptical of Billick's prowess as an OC. I believe he runs a west coast system, which is fantastic, but I  just don't know if he's really any good.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

If I were Steve Bisciotti, I'd bring back Brian Billick for a couple reasons. He's forgotten more about offense than Harbaugh and Caldwell will ever learn. If Brian "The Brain" Billick would promise not to call the owner Young Man, the least Steve could do is to swallow his pride so we could play some neopolitan offense for a change with some end arounds, middle screens, half-back passes et cetera. if neophyte football fans could predict the Ravens' plays from their living rooms, it must have been simple for most NFL coordinators to outwit Caldwell and Castillo. Just imagine how much fun it must have been for Cam Cameron to try to guess their playcalls this year. After all, it is the same darn playbook.

 

I always wonder how well former head coaches adjust to coming back as a coordinator.  I can imagine that it's quite hard to go from a position where you have all of the power (well, a decent amount, not all) and then you come back and have to follow the orders of a boss who has your former position.

 

I know I wouldn't react well to that.

[Inqui]

I always wonder how well former head coaches adjust to coming back as a coordinator.  I can imagine that it's quite hard to go from a position where you have all of the power (well, a decent amount, not all) and then you come back and have to follow the orders of a boss who has your former position.

 

I know I wouldn't react well to that.

Not to mention how much the game will have evolved during his time at CBS.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I always wonder how well former head coaches adjust to coming back as a coordinator.  I can imagine that it's quite hard to go from a position where you have all of the power (well, a decent amount, not all) and then you come back and have to follow the orders of a boss who has your former position.

 

I know I wouldn't react well to that.

 

I don't think Brian Billick would accept anything less than a Head Coach position to get back into coaching anyway. It was more wishful thinking on my part.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

End arounds and half-back passes are mickey mouse high school plays. I'm very skeptical of Billick's prowess as an OC. I believe he runs a west coast system, which is fantastic, but I  just don't know if he's really any good.

 

Sounds like they didn't work on your HS team. The same could be said for pistol offense plays --- college wishbone option. However, didn't I see Anquan Boldin throw an option pass today. They keep the defense honest and slow down pursuit.

[The Raven]

Sounds like they didn't work on your HS team. The same could be said for pistol offense plays --- college wishbone option. However, didn't I see Anquan Boldin throw an option pass today. They keep the defense honest and slow down pursuit.

 

My HS team didn't do mickey mouse crap, unless you consider option plays mickey mouse. We ran the ball down people's throats. I personally don't think the options is mickey mouse.

 

Yeah, they keep the defense "honest" but if an end around or half back pass fails you're looking at 2nd and 15, an interception, or something bad. I don't like trick plays. 

[gabefergy]

My HS team didn't do mickey mouse crap, unless you consider option plays mickey mouse. We ran the ball down people's throats. I personally don't think the options is mickey mouse.

 

Yeah, they keep the defense "honest" but if an end around or half back pass fails you're looking at 2nd and 15, an interception, or something bad. I don't like trick plays. 

I don't think Reverses are really trick plays. They have a role in keeping the DL honest and not being too aggressive with the pass-rush, and if executed well can work quite well. 

[frozen joe flacco fan]

My HS team didn't do mickey mouse crap, unless you consider option plays mickey mouse. We ran the ball down people's throats. I personally don't think the options is mickey mouse.

 

Yeah, they keep the defense "honest" but if an end around or half back pass fails you're looking at 2nd and 15, an interception, or something bad. I don't like trick plays. 

 

The read-option play which is so popular now is mickey mouse. The QBs who run it in the NFL will continue to be successful as long as they are young. Once they get a little older, they will have to learn how to change their game to be conventional drop-back QBs. Your HS team must have been one of the only teams in history never to resort to a trick play like an on-side kick. That's just awesome! Keep it up, coach! Sounds like you have a lot in common with Harbs! 

[The Raven]

The read-option play which is so popular now is mickey mouse. The QBs who run it in the NFL will continue to be successful as long as they are young. Once they get a little older, they will have to learn how to change their game to be conventional drop-back QBs. Your HS team must have been one of the only teams in history never to resort to a trick play like an on-side kick. That's just awesome! Keep it up, coach! Sounds like you have a lot in common with Harbs! 

 

Thanks a lot for the kind words!

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Thanks a lot for the kind words!

 

Its all in fun! Seriously though, it sounds like SF is your kinda team 'cause their style of play is what you have described to a T. They run the ball down peoples throats with Gore and Hunter, mix in some of your high school plays and throw it to Boldin on third downs and to Davis and Crabtree in the red zone. Its hard to argue with success. I would agree that that is not mickey mouse. Its sound fundamental football. What is mickey mouse is having an offense that is so simple and predictable that the defense knows what's coming before you call the play. That's what The Ravens did this year, huh? We need a new HC and OC and perhaps a new GM. Could you imagine a reporter asking Bill Belichek at a post-game presser why his star RB was not in the game? That's exactly what Harbaugh did a couple weeks ago and told the reporter he didn't know why Ray Rice wasn't in the game more. Isn't it the head coach's job to know what the game pan is before the game and if his star RB isn't getting the ball enough to change the game plan or make the necessary adjustments at halftime? When you played HS ball, I think they called that giving directions to the rest of the coaching staff. 

[The Raven]

 

Its all in fun! Seriously though, it sounds like SF is your kinda team 'cause their style of play is what you have described to a T. They run the ball down peoples throats with Gore and Hunter, mix in some of your high school plays and throw it to Boldin on third downs and to Davis and Crabtree in the red zone. Its hard to argue with success. I would agree that that is not mickey mouse. Its sound fundamental football. What is mickey mouse is having an offense that is so simple and predictable that the defense knows what's coming before you call the play. That's what The Ravens did this year, huh? We need a new HC and OC and perhaps a new GM. Could you imagine a reporter asking Bill Belichek at a post-game presser why his star RB was not in the game? That's exactly what Harbaugh did a couple weeks ago and told the reporter he didn't know why Ray Rice wasn't in the game more. Isn't it the head coach's job to know what the game pan is before the game and if his star RB isn't getting the ball enough to change the game plan or make the necessary adjustments at halftime? When you played HS ball, I think they called that giving directions to the rest of the coaching staff. 

 

Seattle for me, actually. Kaeperdick is a punk and Jim is a whiny brat. 49ers were my second team until the QB and HC went weird.

 

Harbaugh said that, probably, to defend Rice from criticism. Rice wasn't in because Pierce was getting it done. The difference between Harbs and BB is that BB would have had the cajones to actually say that Pierce was running better than Rice. 

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Seattle for me, actually. Kaeperdick is a punk and Jim is a whiny brat. 49ers were my second team until the QB and HC went weird.

 

Harbaugh said that, probably, to defend Rice from criticism. Rice wasn't in because Pierce was getting it done. The difference between Harbs and BB is that BB would have had the cajones to actually say that Pierce was running better than Rice. 

 

Yeh, I'll be rooting for Seattle too. The picture of Q having to calm down Jim Harbaugh on the sidelines was priceless. I'm not a Kaepernick fan either. I think Jim H is a better coach than his older brother but I don't care for his antics. At least he calls the plays from the sidelines instead of sending his coordinators to the sky boxes. I guess that makes John feel more relevant or secure. 

 

You're probably right about Harbaugh trying to defend Rice from criticism. I thought it was not wanting to second-guess his assistants. Sometimes a head coach has to call it like he sees it and let the chips fall where they will. I do believe our Coach Harbaugh has his work cut out for him now. We'll see how he coaches without some of his superstuds.

[Militant X 1]

Now that Caldwell has finally been hired as the Lion's head coach; I'm wondering "who" Harbaugh will select to be our new O.C.?

 

#Mili

[Ravensfan23]

I'm think the logical choice is Kubiak. He has a proven track record of success and his offensive style fits exactly what the Ravens want to do. Remember a couple years back the Ravens all but asked Leach to teach them how to operate that ZBS run game that made the Texans so successful. Now you have the opportunity to bring in the man who actually ran that offense. Does he have flaws? Of course but he's a heck of an offensive coach and as a former QB i think he'd love to build the offense around Joe.

 

I think he and Castillo would work well together and that fact that play action is a huge part of his game would allow us to still have a heavy run presence in our offense. He's made Matt Schuab look like a star at times, I'd love to see what he could do with Flacco, Rice, Pitta, Smith, Pierce, Brown and others.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

I'm think the logical choice is Kubiak. He has a proven track record of success and his offensive style fits exactly what the Ravens want to do. Remember a couple years back the Ravens all but asked Leach to teach them how to operate that ZBS run game that made the Texans so successful. Now you have the opportunity to bring in the man who actually ran that offense. Does he have flaws? Of course but he's a heck of an offensive coach and as a former QB i think he'd love to build the offense around Joe.

 

I think he and Castillo would work well together and that fact that play action is a huge part of his game would allow us to still have a heavy run presence in our offense. He's made Matt Schuab look like a star at times, I'd love to see what he could do with Flacco, Rice, Pitta, Smith, Pierce, Brown and others.

 

Wouldn't mind Kubiak at all. He is a respected offensive mind around the league and would fit in well with what we love to do on offense. Kubiak, McAdoo, Turner, or Chudzinski would all be awesome hires.

 

Just look outside for once especially with how horrible we were on offense this year. We need a fresh start and a new offensive mind that could potentially get the most out of our young players. If they hire in-house, I think it reaffirms my belief that they are content with the continuous mediocrity on the offensive side of the ball. 

[The Raven]

I'm think the logical choice is Kubiak. He has a proven track record of success and his offensive style fits exactly what the Ravens want to do. Remember a couple years back the Ravens all but asked Leach to teach them how to operate that ZBS run game that made the Texans so successful. Now you have the opportunity to bring in the man who actually ran that offense. Does he have flaws? Of course but he's a heck of an offensive coach and as a former QB i think he'd love to build the offense around Joe.

 

I think he and Castillo would work well together and that fact that play action is a huge part of his game would allow us to still have a heavy run presence in our offense. He's made Matt Schuab look like a star at times, I'd love to see what he could do with Flacco, Rice, Pitta, Smith, Pierce, Brown and others.

 

He could work wonders for Juice too. He used Dreesen as a good move TE from time to time. That's what I'd love to see for Juice

[H8R]

I'm available, I'll have my people contact yours.

 

 

 

-H8R

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Nobody currently on this team. I would be ok with Norv, but I would try and get Pats receivers coach or somebody in their offensive game planning room that knows X & O's and is capable of in game adjustments.

[voxendu864]

Is Norv Turner actually available?

[Guest Moderator 6]

Hue Jackson available?

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Hue Jackson available?

 

Just got promoted to Bengals OC.

[Guest Moderator 6]

Just got promoted to Bengals OC.

Darn.  He had a good repertoire with Flacco when he was here.

[MTRavensFan]

Hue Jackson available?

don't we wish  

promoted to OC in Cinci last week when Gruden left.

[Ravenslifer]

It needs to be somebody from outside of this staff.

[Hardbaugh]

It doesn't matter who the OC is if the quarterback that the franchise made the highest paid player in football doesn't want to work outside the facility.

 

It's pathetic that the organization has to try and lite a fire under his behind be releasing this news to the media.  It's no wonder he and the receivers can't get on the same page.

[Shaun From Canada]

If the Browns let Norv go I would like him

[Ravensfan23]

He could work wonders for Juice too. He used Dreesen as a good move TE from time to time. That's what I'd love to see for Juice

 

yea great point. He's definitely a big play OC. We know that even with his explosive offense he can still get the most out of the FB position as evident with Leach's success. Owen Daniels is of the same mold as Pitta, so he should be able to use Pitta, Pierce is the type of RB he loves with that one cut and go style but I'm sure he'd get the most out of Rice as well seeing as how Foster is a receiving weapon out of the backfield. What he did for guys like Jacoby and Walters would give me confidence he'd use our other WRs well and he made sure Andre Johnson moved around a lot to get favorable matchups which I've wanted to see all year with Torrey, so I think he'd definitely be a good choice.