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[The Raven]

With how ugly our offenses have been, I'm cool with getting cute from time to time.

[Militant X 1]

NFL Network just showed that Kyle Shanahan is interviewing for the Ravens OC spot. 

 

#Mili

[T3hRaven]

Bingo. Much like the Orioles the problem with the Redskins starts at the top. RG3 runs that franchise now.

As for Kyle I think it'd be a really good choice. He is very creative as a play caller, known for getting too cute at times but very creative. He can sometimes get a little pass happy but overall has a nice balance to his play calls. I like him because his players say he has an answer to every defensive look so they aree never suck in a bad play, they just change out of that play at the LOS. If that sounds unfamilar yet exciting it's because us Ravens fans don't know what that's like lol.

I've spent the last couple days praising Kubiak for the job he's done with the Texans and mainly Schaub, but a closer look would suggest that Kyle had a lot to do with it. He was QB coach in 07 and OC from 08-09, in those 3 seasons Schuab never passed for less then 66% of his passes and had a career season with 4,700yds 29TDs, 8.4yds per attempt and 67% completion. This on top of the success he's had in Washington with above average talent imo, I think he'd be a strong OC for us.

He fits the ZBS as that helps, you'd have to change the Croyell system which I would love to do and you actually put Joe back in a system that allows him to truly do what he does best. Oh also guys like Doss, Thompson and Mellette would be used much more to their strenghts in his system instead of being asked to be sharp route runners. His system gets WRs open.

I would really like this move and get excited about it. There are also some NFC defensive coach who say he is very tough to gameplan against. He's player friendly(except RG3) so the players should really take to him and I hear he is detail oriented as a coach, sso our game plans should never seem like we don't know what we're doing.

 

Sounds like more good things to me, I've been championing him for a few months now.  Hopefully this pans out, I'm hopeful atm.

[BMORElegacy]

NFL Network just showed that Kyle Shanahan is interviewing for the Ravens OC spot. 

 

#Mili

I don't know how to feel about this....

 

Back when we were still suffering through Cam I had, 'Can Cam. Hire Norv,' as my sig... I still hope we make a move to get Turner away from the Browns. He was able to produce in Cleveland and he allowed for guys like Gordon and Cameron to have amazing years with very little at quarterback. We all know Norv is a crap head coach, but that shouldn't cause us to shy away from him being our OC. 

[big hits and ball hawks]

Bingo. Much like the Orioles the problem with the Redskins starts at the top. RG3 runs that franchise now.

As for Kyle I think it'd be a really good choice. He is very creative as a play caller, known for getting too cute at times but very creative. He can sometimes get a little pass happy but overall has a nice balance to his play calls. I like him because his players say he has an answer to every defensive look so they aree never suck in a bad play, they just change out of that play at the LOS. If that sounds unfamilar yet exciting it's because us Ravens fans don't know what that's like lol.

I've spent the last couple days praising Kubiak for the job he's done with the Texans and mainly Schaub, but a closer look would suggest that Kyle had a lot to do with it. He was QB coach in 07 and OC from 08-09, in those 3 seasons Schuab never passed for less then 66% of his passes and had a career season with 4,700yds 29TDs, 8.4yds per attempt and 67% completion. This on top of the success he's had in Washington with above average talent imo, I think he'd be a strong OC for us.

He fits the ZBS as that helps, you'd have to change the Croyell system which I would love to do and you actually put Joe back in a system that allows him to truly do what he does best. Oh also guys like Doss, Thompson and Mellette would be used much more to their strenghts in his system instead of being asked to be sharp route runners. His system gets WRs open.

I would really like this move and get excited about it. There are also some NFC defensive coach who say he is very tough to gameplan against. He's player friendly(except RG3) so the players should really take to him and I hear he is detail oriented as a coach, sso our game plans should never seem like we don't know what we're doing.

 

Well, I'm sold.

 

I would like to see a new system and if he can get those numbers out of Schaub, I'm sure he can get the same and probably better numbers out of Flacco. I'm sure he would get along with Flacco too, being a former QB coach and all. 

[Inqui]

I just asked about Shanny on another forum and a Redskins fan wasn't too impressed with his playcalling.

 

He was at four of the games during their seven-game winning run in 2012 and felt it was more RG3's ability to extend the play that kept drives alive and won them games - although he was a fan of the zone run getting installed (so there's that).

 

For this season, he felt Kyle wasn't able to call plays with their QB in mind and it got predictable to the point where defences would stack the box and either stuff the run or bowl through the o-line and sack RG3. And apparently he was too quick to abandon the run outright (Morris went for 114 yards in the first half of one game, and got three touches for the whole second half despite their being up by 10).

 

So I guess there's a bit more elaboration on your downside. How much that was Mike's fault is something we as fans will never know. Although if the complaint is partly about RG3 being made into a pocket passer then the square peg may have found a square hole.

[Inqui]

Wonder if Cam will apply? 

Don't even joke about that. Still too soon.

[Tru11]

shanahan is 1 OC that knows how to run the ball.

 

also seems to be able to play to an QB strengths as well.

[Ravensfan23]

I just asked about Shanny on another forum and a Redskins fan wasn't too impressed with his playcalling.

 

He was at four of the games during their seven-game winning run in 2012 and felt it was more RG3's ability to extend the play that kept drives alive and won them games - although he was a fan of the zone run getting installed (so there's that).

 

For this season, he felt Kyle wasn't able to call plays with their QB in mind and it got predictable to the point where defences would stack the box and either stuff the run or bowl through the o-line and sack RG3. And apparently he was too quick to abandon the run outright (Morris went for 114 yards in the first half of one game, and got three touches for the whole second half despite their being up by 10).

 

So I guess there's a bit more elaboration on your downside. How much that was Mike's fault is something we as fans will never know. Although if the complaint is partly about RG3 being made into a pocket passer then the square peg may have found a square hole.

My only issue with that is that it comes from a that doesn't have enough information to know what the play design was supposed to be. Also being at a live game is one of the worse positions to give an in depth breakdown of a game because you are in most cases giving your opinion on the result of a play and now what actually happened with all 22 guys.

Also RG3 never fit that system to began with, which is why Mike never wanted to draft him. So trying to fit that sqaure peg in a round hole was almost un-avoidable. You'll either have a player doing something he isn't really strong at, like reading hot routes, timing throws and reading coverages all of which RG3 struggles with or you have a coach calling plays that he isn't as comfortable calling just to fit your QB. Everytime Kirk Cousins came into that offfense I thought it was run much better then with RG3. So that's my take on that.

Also with the game where he went away from the run, how many plays were read options were RG3 kept the ball? How often were screen passes run in that 2nd half? How man times did RG3 audible out of a run and throw the ball? There's a lot that goes in to it imo. Not saying that guy was right or wrong and I appreciate you sharing but I think much more goes into it then just watching four games live. You and I could attend the same 4 Ravens games and come away with completely different views. One of us may look at the lack of execution and say that caused the play calling to look awful, while the other may think poor play calling lead to poor execution.

[SecretAgentMan]

I want Shannahan. With Slaton as the back good numbers were produced.

Scheme for blocking will be improved, WRs might actually get open.

I wouldn't mind Kyle.

But if we promote from within

[Ravensfan23]

My biggest issue with Norv is that the system won't change. I see a lot of people say well look at what he did with Josh Gordon, but the thing about Josh is that he's a stud. He's a guy who is a good route runner but just needs some polish. As much of a fan as I am, Torrey just isn't that guy. Pitta would have still be a huge factor but what else? Our WRs would still need to run strong routes and they don't.

Also I think the Ravens have committed to move away from the Air Croyell system. Commiting to a more exclusive ZBS up front doesn't fit what Norv and that system is about imo. They are more power blocking systems. He would have been prefect a couple years ago, but not now imo. With the commitment to the ZBS and the two candidates we've been linked to, I think we are starting too see that profile Harbs spoke of.

A fairly young, creative guy who can keep up with the new style offense in the NFL. A guy that can relate to the players, mainly Flacco and a guy who can open up the offense, but this be able to use our run game successfully. Those are just qualities I think we are looking for based on what we already see.

[Inqui]

My only issue with that is that it comes from a that doesn't have enough information to know what the play design was supposed to be. Also being at a live game is one of the worse positions to give an in depth breakdown of a game because you are in most cases giving your opinion on the result of a play and now what actually happened with all 22 guys.

Also RG3 never fit that system to began with, which is why Mike never wanted to draft him. So trying to fit that sqaure peg in a round hole was almost un-avoidable. You'll either have a player doing something he isn't really strong at, like reading hot routes, timing throws and reading coverages all of which RG3 struggles with or you have a coach calling plays that he isn't as comfortable calling just to fit your QB. Everytime Kirk Cousins came into that offfense I thought it was run much better then with RG3. So that's my take on that.

Also with the game where he went away from the run, how many plays were read options were RG3 kept the ball? How often were screen passes run in that 2nd half? How man times did RG3 audible out of a run and throw the ball? There's a lot that goes in to it imo. Not saying that guy was right or wrong and I appreciate you sharing but I think much more goes into it then just watching four games live. You and I could attend the same 4 Ravens games and come away with completely different views. One of us may look at the lack of execution and say that caused the play calling to look awful, while the other may think poor play calling lead to poor execution.

I get where you're coming from here, and you can add his bias against the Shanahans (which he'll be the first to tell you about). I mean, I saw an LSU blog post that got excited about Cam Cameron showing up, which is a perspective we as Ravens fans would find almost incomprehensible.

 

I've never been to a game (I'd love to. Too much debt atm but I would sell the naming rights of my first child or even start lopping off appendages for whoever got me over there), but I'd imagine you at least get to see the whole play as it unfolds. But I do think his point was more that the winning run in 2012 felt like RG3 was making things happen after the play had broken down. I dunno if that ever owed to a bad call or players being useless and the QB making up for it.

 

That one game I mentioned wasn't an isolated event: it was apparently the worst of a bad bunch. He said it was pretty common for Morris to run for 80 yards in a half en route to a lead or one-score deficit, only to abandon the run altogether in the second half for whatever reason. I think that was just a more detailed account of what you said about him being too pass-happy at times.

 

Like others here, I just wanted to see what the Redskins fans thought of Shanahan. I do get this guy's limitations (which is why I didn't advocate the same view: just relaying what I read), but at the same time he's also watched every snap for the last who knows how long and he's probably had a better sense for Shanahan's playcalling than we do at the moment. Just food for thought, and what I thought after that food was that he should be a better fit for Flacco. But then, I'm limited by wanting something more interesting than what I'm used to.

 

Again, whether those plays owe to Shanahan being a bad OC, the system not being the flashiest fit (although what The Raven said about him adding the read option for RG3 is encouraging), his dad dabbling too much, or just being in a losing situation (Jim Caldwell says hi) is something no set of fans will likely ever know.

[Inqui]

My biggest issue with Norv is that the system won't change. I see a lot of people say well look at what he did with Josh Gordon, but the thing about Josh is that he's a stud. He's a guy who is a good route runner but just needs some polish. As much of a fan as I am, Torrey just isn't that guy. Pitta would have still be a huge factor but what else? Our WRs would still need to run strong routes and they don't.

Also I think the Ravens have committed to move away from the Air Croyell system. Commiting to a more exclusive ZBS up front doesn't fit what Norv and that system is about imo. They are more power blocking systems. He would have been prefect a couple years ago, but not now imo. With the commitment to the ZBS and the two candidates we've been linked to, I think we are starting too see that profile Harbs spoke of.

A fairly young, creative guy who can keep up with the new style offense in the NFL. A guy that can relate to the players, mainly Flacco and a guy who can open up the offense, but this be able to use our run game successfully. Those are just qualities I think we are looking for based on what we already see.

I think you might be right. There hasn't been too much about going for a guy like Chudz or Norv at this point, beyond the speculation that we might be interested. Then again, we all got taken by surprise with the Shanahan interview so they've probably talked to someone else that they like who we haven't thought of.

 

I know I'm mooting for Norv in my sig, but at the end of the day I'll be happy if whoever we bring in builds the offence around Flacco and injects the creativity we need to become a consistent offensive threat.

[Ravensfan23]

I get where you're coming from here, and you can add his bias against the Shanahans (which he'll be the first to tell you about). I mean, I saw an LSU blog post that got excited about Cam Cameron showing up, which is a perspective we as Ravens fans would find almost incomprehensible.

 

I've never been to a game (I'd love to. Too much debt atm but I would sell the naming rights of my first child or even start lopping off appendages for whoever got me over there), but I'd imagine you at least get to see the whole play as it unfolds. But I do think his point was more that the winning run in 2012 felt like RG3 was making things happen after the play had broken down. I dunno if that ever owed to a bad call or players being useless and the QB making up for it.

 

That one game I mentioned wasn't an isolated event: it was apparently the worst of a bad bunch. He said it was pretty common for Morris to run for 80 yards in a half en route to a lead or one-score deficit, only to abandon the run altogether in the second half for whatever reason. I think that was just a more detailed account of what you said about him being too pass-happy at times.

 

Like others here, I just wanted to see what the Redskins fans thought of Shanahan. I do get this guy's limitations (which is why I didn't advocate the same view: just relaying what I read), but at the same time he's also watched every snap for the last who knows how long and he's probably had a better sense for Shanahan's playcalling than we do at the moment. Just food for thought, and what I thought after that food was that he should be a better fit for Flacco. But then, I'm limited by wanting something more interesting than what I'm used to.

 

Again, whether those plays owe to Shanahan being a bad OC, the system not being the flashiest fit (although what The Raven said about him adding the read option for RG3 is encouraging), his dad dabbling too much, or just being in a losing situation (Jim Caldwell says hi) is something no set of fans will likely ever know.

Oh yea I get that. I don't wanna make it sound like I'm saying Shanahan has to definitely be the guy, I'm just honestly excited that we appear to be moving away from the Air Croyell. I'd probably be excited about anyone coming in with fresh ideas lol.

I'm sure Shanahan has his flaws just like any other. I'm a huge Sean Payton and Rex Ryan fan, but I can find fault in what those guys do at times. The RG3 making plays thing is tough because we just don't know is a guy is open and RG3 missed him and decided to run or what. If you watch RG3 closely he often waits for guys to come wide open instead of anticipating the route and throwing guys open. While you can see this watching a game live, it's best seen watching an all 22. I'm not gonna act like I've. Studied that offense nearly enough to say I know everything about it and who was at fault for it not working, so I'm sure that guy has great points and they'll come up in the interview. No way after this pass season we don't focus on the run game. So if that's a big issue he won't be the guy.

[Tru11]

to be fair the only reason RG3 ran alot was because he could not read defenses.

if his 1st read was coverd he ran lol.

 

also they moved away from the option this season because RG3 was already injured and the wanted to expose him less.

 

also with a historic bad special teams and 1 of the worst defenses there where playing catch up more , so running the ball game wasent really an option.

 

with shannahan you know he will run the ball and he will play to the players strength.

the TE will also be featured and he uses alot of 3 WR sets with different routes.

he worked wonders with Garcon who started as an  deep threat wr but played snaps from the slot as well.

you could see a similair result from torrey smith.

[redravenfan]

Norv Turner has an impressive resume and has been coaching a long time, but to me he's what the ravens used to be. I like Kubiak and Like Shanahan, he's young creative and he is familiar with what we are trying to do and I think he will fit well here. Plus both produce top ranked offenses and thats the direction we need to go in. we have Joe imagine having someone who can maximize his talent.

 

Honestly I would be happy with any choice that can make us better , especially if his name isn't Castillo!

[good_n_purple]

Norv Turner has an impressive resume and has been coaching a long time, but to me he's what the ravens used to be. I like Kubiak and Like Shanahan, he's young creative and he is familiar with what we are trying to do and I think he will fit well here. Plus both produce top ranked offenses and thats the direction we need to go in. we have Joe imagine having someone who can maximize his talent.

 

Honestly I would be happy with any choice that can make us better , especially if his name isn't Castillo!

I like Shanahan's system which is very similar to Kubiak's.  West coast based, but emphasizes the run and play action.  His philosophy uses ZBS, and the idea is to make the defense run.   Shanahan's system can make maximize the performance of any running back, and I like that aspect.  Even though I like a Patriots type E-P system for our current roster better I wouldn't mind Shanahan. I just don't want a West Coast purist if there is such athing nowadays.

[Ravenslifer]

Here is something encouraging regarding Shanahan...

 

In 2 seasons as Houston's OC, their offense was 3rd and 4th in yards. pretty impressive with Schaub at QB and Steve Slaton at RB. 

 

He also had the Redskins offense 5th in yards and 4th in points in 2012, RGIIIs rookie season.  They also tied with New Orleans for most yards per play in 2012.

[arnie_uk]

At this point just sign someone, I'm getting anxious.

I wonder do we let the interviewees talk to joe to see how they gel, much like the lions let Caldwell speak to stafford etc.

[NeoZer0]

Reports are that Norv is close to a deal with the Vikings.  C'mon Ravens get on the phone.

[NeoZer0]

Norv is not coming here, the Browns won't let him interview here.

 

That's not true.  No organization would do that.  It would make coaches think twice about going there.

[Ravensfan23]

to be fair the only reason RG3 ran alot was because he could not read defenses.

if his 1st read was coverd he ran lol.

 

also they moved away from the option this season because RG3 was already injured and the wanted to expose him less.

 

also with a historic bad special teams and 1 of the worst defenses there where playing catch up more , so running the ball game wasent really an option.

 

with shannahan you know he will run the ball and he will play to the players strength.

the TE will also be featured and he uses alot of 3 WR sets with different routes.

he worked wonders with Garcon who started as an  deep threat wr but played snaps from the slot as well.

you could see a similair result from torrey smith.

 

This is one of the biggest reasons I'd really get excited about Kyle Shanahan coming in. He got the absolute best out of Garcon and I'd love to see him work Torrey the same way. Torrey showed what he is capable of in the early part of the season with the shorter crossing routes we had him running, I think he was top 3 in the NFL. Torrey has just as much talent and potential as guys like Garcon and Antonio Brown but he has to be used properly. Also I'd be very excited to see him work with guys like Deonte Thompson and Tandon Doss as well. Now with a guy like Garcon you might say well the read option had a lot to do with this numbers, but they didn't run that much in 2013 from what I saw. But you look at what he was able to do for guys like Gaffney, Anthony Armstrong his first year in Washington, I think he works well with the talent he's given and having a creative guy like him would make Ozzie and company look much better at drafting offensive talent.

 

As I said his offense is designed to get the ball out quick and Flacco is actually really good in that area when the offense calls for it. Also his offense would allow Joe to be the athlete that he is, Bootlegs, Rollouts, that PA stretch that just causes so much movement in a defense. Either he or Kubiak would be my top choices and I think Kyle is a little more innovative then Kubiak.

[good_n_purple]

I like Shanahan's system which is very similar to Kubiak's.  West coast based, but emphasizes the run and play action.  His philosophy uses ZBS, and the idea is to make the defense run.   Shanahan's system can make maximize the performance of any running back, and I like that aspect.  Even though I like a Patriots type E-P system for our current roster better I wouldn't mind Shanahan. I just don't want a West Coast purist if there is such athing nowadays.

OOOOPS!  I just did a little Googling...forget Shanahan.  I don't see him meshing with this team and staff at all given he seems to be a full tilt turdheel.

[Inqui]

Norv and the Vikings are close to a deal, per Schefter.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10302787/minnesota-vikings-close-hiring-norv-turner-offensive-coordinator?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=ESPN&utm_term=NFL+NEWS&utm_content=NFL+NEWS

 

Looks like we might be going away from the Coryell, albeit not by choice (or at least having the decisiveness on the matter plucked from our grasp).

 

ED: Some guy on Twitter's just said it's a 100% done deal, but I think he might be flinching in the trenches on that one.

[Ravensfan23]

Reports are that Norv is close to a deal with the Vikings.  C'mon Ravens get on the phone.

 

I don't think he is coming here. I don't think we want him nor do I think he want to be here. It's not a great match and if you thought this season caused a disconnect between players and coaches or Cam wanting things his way caused issues, can you imagine adding Norv to this team and Castillo continuing to run a ZBS that doesn't fit what Norv has been accustom to for the past 20 years or so? It'd be complete madness.

 

Norv was a great option 3 years ago when we were still committed to the Air Croyell, but once we started implementing the ZBS and we brought in Caldwell I think the writing was on the wall for this offense.

[Ravensfan23]

OOOOPS!  I just did a little Googling...forget Shanahan.  I don't see him meshing with this team and staff at all given he seems to be a full tilt turdheel.

 

what did you find?

[Tru11]

OOOOPS!  I just did a little Googling...forget Shanahan.  I don't see him meshing with this team and staff at all given he seems to be a full tilt turdheel.

 

father or son or both?

[Ravensfan23]

Norv and the Vikings are close to a deal, per Schefter.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10302787/minnesota-vikings-close-hiring-norv-turner-offensive-coordinator?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=ESPN&utm_term=NFL+NEWS&utm_content=NFL+NEWS

 

Looks like we might be going away from the Coryell, albeit not by choice (or at least having the decisiveness on the matter plucked from our grasp).

 

ED: Some guy on Twitter's just said it's a 100% done deal, but I think he might be flinching in the trenches on that one.

 

I think it's 100% by choice. The Ravens said they were looking forward to making progress on offense with Jim leading the charge and as much as people say that's just coach talk I believe it. When I went out to their practice a couple times at camp, I clearly saw an emphasis on an more ball controlled passing attack that focused on the short and intermediate passing game. Yes the deep ball was still there, but I think Caldwell was making changes, then we saw some of those changes throughout the year but we just didn't have the healthy personnel to keep things on schedule.

 

I think this year we were looking to finally put the nail in the Air Croyell coffin. Norv Turner was just a popular and seemingly logical name because of the Air Croyell system, many people linked him to us. However I don't think he was ever a option. If the Ravens wanted to speak with him they could have at least tried. Browns said they would allow him to interview the Ravens could have at least called their bluff by putting in a request and either exposed the Browns or gotten their man at OC. Plus Norv isn't the only Croyell coach still out their and if we were willing to give McAdoo an interview and he's never been a OC before, I'm sure we would have been willing to give another young coach from that Croyell tree a shot if that was truly our focus.

 

I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas now that I know we are almost guaranteed to move away from the Croyell system. Our offense at least has a fighting chance to be on a even playing field with others now. I don't know who the OC will be but I can't wait to see what he does.

[Inqui]

what did you find?

Apparently he quite likes his yes men. Take that at the value you will.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375961/kyle-shanahan-staff-inexperience-at-core-of-redskins-dysfunction

[Inqui]

I think it's 100% by choice. The Ravens said they were looking forward to making progress on offense with Jim leading the charge and as much as people say that's just coach talk I believe it. When I went out to their practice a couple times at camp, I clearly saw an emphasis on an more ball controlled passing attack that focused on the short and intermediate passing game. Yes the deep ball was still there, but I think Caldwell was making changes, then we saw some of those changes throughout the year but we just didn't have the healthy personnel to keep things on schedule.

 

I think this year we were looking to finally put the nail in the Air Croyell coffin. Norv Turner was just a popular and seemingly logical name because of the Air Croyell system, many people linked him to us. However I don't think he was ever a option. If the Ravens wanted to speak with him they could have at least tried. Browns said they would allow him to interview the Ravens could have at least called their bluff by putting in a request and either exposed the Browns or gotten their man at OC. Plus Norv isn't the only Croyell coach still out their and if we were willing to give McAdoo an interview and he's never been a OC before, I'm sure we would have been willing to give another young coach from that Croyell tree a shot if that was truly our focus.

 

I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas now that I know we are almost guaranteed to move away from the Croyell system. Our offense at least has a fighting chance to be on a even playing field with others now. I don't know who the OC will be but I can't wait to see what he does.

I should have said "albeit maybe not by choice", but that doesn't really change what you said. I think the appeal with Norv (and that Chud still has) was that he represented a straight upgrade for the system - better caller, better set of plays - and the promise of minimal transitional pains, if any at all. I'm still in the camp where sticking with that wouldn't have doomed us, but I think you're right in that the FO's looking at something more modern and hopefully more varied.

 

Considering the changes the offence will be going through during this offseason, this is probably the best chance we'll ever have to make a big philosophical change. The personnel will be upgraded so we get the normal chemistry stuff early on, which they can work on WHILE adapting to a new system.

 

I don't think we'll be promoting from within, unless we have a much worse reputation among coaching circles than we suspect (the Browns say hi), and I definitely agree that this is a potentially exciting period for the Ravens. It'll be really interesting to see where we go and what Joe can do.

 

Although if we do make wholesale changes I just hope the fans are prepared to give the new guy time to put everything in place. No way will a major change work overnight imo.