[News] Coaching Search Rumor Mill

[Ravenskid52752]

I hope it went well, he's my pick.

yeah well at least where looking outside for the guy. I think they just want to interview hostler not hire.

[TXRavensFan]

Theres some better news! i would support this move. 

 

Not to mention it would only be a short move for Shanahan too...ba dum bump

[jazz1988]

I hope it went well, he's my pick.

 

I look around the internet about him i hope the rumors about him being a control freak isnt true but overall i think he would be a nice offensive coordintor for The Ravens.

[Bravens292]

People following Aaron Wilson's twitter don't like Kyle Shanahan. all i saw was "God please no" about 5 times

[SeaHawk]

I think Jim Hostler would be the best OC we have ever had. He is a genius when it comes to the offense, and he has always been an integral part to our team. I would support this move.

[ratedr]

People following Aaron Wilson's twitter don't like Kyle Shanahan. all i saw was "God please no" about 5 times

Yeah Twitter HATES it. But Twitter isn't too intelligent, anyway.

[Ravenslifer]

Shannahan did well in 2012 when RGIII was healthy.  As long as it's someone who's going to emphasize shorter and more diverse route trees, I'm on board.

[Ravenslifer]

People following Aaron Wilson's twitter don't like Kyle Shanahan. all i saw was "God please no" about 5 times

 

I think they just see "Shannahan" and assume we're going to look like the 2013 Redskins, never mind the quarterbacks are completely different or that he did very well when RGIII was a rookie, but healthy.

[HoldingCall]

I could be missing something but I don't see the advantage to Norv for him to come here.

[ravens_4life]

I am hoping the fo realizes that we need a fresh new system. this ac thing is not really working here. I hope they realize we were that bad last year and need a aggressive injection of offense creativity on this team. this run,run,pass is boring and way to predictable. we have to completely get rid of the ac system. I want to see a lot of movement before the snap. I want to see rice and pierce spell each other. I want to see leach line up as a receiver and pitta as a rb to throw defenses off like what the heck are these guys doing type of thing. something has to be done. we never had a real powerful offense. 

[HoldingCall]

Shannahan did well in 2012 when RGIII was healthy.  As long as it's someone who's going to emphasize shorter and more diverse route trees, I'm on board.

He stands as good of a chance and any imo. I am not opposed! 

[Ravenslifer]

I could be missing something but I don't see the advantage to Norv for him to come here.

 

The thing about Norv is that he at least runs his offensive system competently.  It would be like Cam 2.0, or a better version of Cam's offense.  I wouldn't want it, because I don't particularly care for Air Coryell, but if that's the kind of offense this organization wants, Norv's the best at it.  However the same problems will still be there e.g. if you can't run the ball, you're done.  There is also a seriously predictable nature to his play calling, or at least that's what a bunch of Charger fans will tell you from his time there.  But he does seem to get quite a bit out of his quarterbacks.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

The thing about Norv is that he at least runs his offensive system competently. It would be like Cam 2.0, or a better version of Cam's offense. I wouldn't want it, because I don't particularly care for Air Coryell, but if that's the kind of offense this organization wants, Norv's the best at it.

I think they meant what would make Norv want to leave his current job.

[Ravenslifer]

I think they meant what would make Norv want to leave his current job.

 

Oh - well I'm assuming if he comes here, he likes the offensive situation better.  The big thing is the word around the Browns says the front office likes Manziel, who is absolutely the worst quarterback for the type of offense Norv wants to run - at least Weeden has the skill set; also that Norv knows this interest and may not be too happy with it.  He wants a vertical passing game, and that's exactly what Manziel won't bring.

[Willbacker]

I think they meant what would make Norv want to leave his current job.

The new HC might not want Norv as his OC.

[PolishRifle]

Shanahan would be an interesting and bold choice. Much more bold than I would expect a decision for the Ravens offense to be. That 2013 season with the Redskins is troubling, though, but more things went wrong for that team than just the offense. Mike Shanahan basically lost control over the whole team and we do know, that this won't happen under Harbs.

[Ravenslifer]

Shanahan would be an interesting and bold choice. Much more bold than I would expect a decision for the Ravens offense to be. That 2013 season with the Redskins is troubling, though, but more things went wrong for that team than just the offense. Mike Shanahan basically lost control over the whole team and we do know, that this won't happen under Harbs.

 

Also didn't help that RGIII missed 3 games and wasn't himself even when he was playing.

[PolishRifle]

Also didn't help that RGIII missed 3 games and wasn't himself even when he was playing.

 

Yeah, the Redskins better start turning RG3s carreer around, because he's starting to look like a bust.

 

Anyway, I would be interested in where Shanahan might take this offense and how much change Harbs is willing to allow. I have a feeling, the Ravens were ready to let go of Caldwell regardless of his job situation and might be preparing for big changes in the offensive playbook.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I really think we need go away even further from Cam's system.

[Willbacker]

Yeah, the Redskins better start turning RG3s carreer around, because he's starting to look like a bust.

 

Anyway, I would be interested in where Shanahan might take this offense and how much change Harbs is willing to allow. I have a feeling, the Ravens were ready to let go of Caldwell regardless of his job situation and might be preparing for big changes in the offensive playbook.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I really think we need go away even further from Cam's system.

He'd only be a bust cuz of Shanahans stupidness. Pops that is.

[beatdareaper]

I am all for Kyle coming to Baltimore. I want someone to revamp the offense entirely.

[flynismo]

Just got a notification saying we have a profile in mind. That doesn't say very much, but we'll see what happens I guess.

Here's the corresponding article: http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/John-Harbaughs-Statement-On-Offensive-Coordinator-Search/cdfa178c-f2f3-49bc-92df-f3b128727107

Actually, tells us a lot, since we interviewed Shanahan today. Pretty excited, I think whoever we decide on will make a lot of us happy

[Bravens292]

Tried to find some opinions of Kyle on Redskins forums. When it was said the whole staff was fired, some wouldn't have minded if he was retained. Couldn't find a specific Kyle Shanahan thread though. Most of it was Dan Synder, RG3, Mike Shanahan related.

[TXRavensFan]

Shanahan would be an interesting and bold choice. Much more bold than I would expect a decision for the Ravens offense to be. That 2013 season with the Redskins is troubling, though, but more things went wrong for that team than just the offense. Mike Shanahan basically lost control over the whole team and we do know, that this won't happen under Harbs.

 

Just throwing it out there, but the Houston offense when he was OC was pretty impressive stats-wise.

[Moderator 3]

Kyle threw his own father under the bus. Not sure I would ever trust him.

[cursona pirate]

Yeah, the Redskins better start turning RG3s carreer around, because he's starting to look like a bust.

 

Anyway, I would be interested in where Shanahan might take this offense and how much change Harbs is willing to allow. I have a feeling, the Ravens were ready to let go of Caldwell regardless of his job situation and might be preparing for big changes in the offensive playbook.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I really think we need go away even further from Cam's system.

Cam's system needs to go. It rarely works. It hurts us more than it benefits us. I think any new coordinator is great for us. If Kyle is the man than cool!

[berad]

If Shanahan comes here, expect RG3 as our backup

Rex Grossman III, that is

They have some kind of blood bond

[izvoodoo]

Norv is not coming here, the Browns won't let him interview here.

Someone posted this, but Turner has permission to interview anywhere

[Inqui]

Cam's system needs to go. It rarely works. It hurts us more than it benefits us. I think any new coordinator is great for us. If Kyle is the man than cool!

I think our system had two main problems:

1) Some missing components during its time with us. Ranging from a missing deep threat pre-Torrey to a power running game to a consistent possession guy or two who could keep the chains moving and bring the defence closer to the LoS (thus freeing up room for the deep guy to blow the top off said defence).

2) Lack of a good play caller. Cam was awful and Caldwell could have done better, though we'll never know his potential.

 

The idea is that the draft and FA will get us some guys to fix the first problem, while a better OC would theoretically solve the second.

 

Basically this offseason has the FO at a crossroads. They can stick with the Coryell system and try to upgrade it (and almost certainly go with Norv or Chudzinski) or blow the whole thing up and rebuild a new system around Flacco (Shanahan, Kubiak). Upgrading our Coryell would be the easier route, and have less growing pains, but bringing in a new guy has all kinds of risk and long-term potential.

 

I also think that we need to decide on our longer-term identity quickly. Not so much for hiring someone before they get snapped up (although that too), but so we can get more out of our unseasonably long offseason this year. We'll need to decide on who to target during the offseason and that'll have all kinds of chain reactions.

[marylandmike12]

I hear Kyle Shannahan has interviewed for OC, there is no chance he gets it right? 

[Bravens292]

Here is something encouraging regarding Shanahan...

 

In 2 seasons as Houston's OC, their offense was 3rd and 4th in yards. pretty impressive with Schaub at QB and Steve Slaton at RB.